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United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love
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It was before the internet and cars existed. Not everyone could get out to vote so a representative of the people was chosen.
It's outdated as fuck such as everything else from the 1700s.
It doesn't matter though; Trump won the popular vote anyways.
HiredN00bs
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Republicans and even Donald Trump are still human beings. No one is irredeemable. The folks in suits on the Senate and House floors aren't the same as the lost souls on 8chan. Write your representatives. Call the hotlines. Protest. Let your voice be heard. We can't give up fighting for a more moral and ethical society just because people are ignorant about politics.
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
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Bleh this is what it feels like to lose all hope in the country. To know how un educated the fast majority of people are about politics.
Least I know a good majority of gaf belived there was some good of the United States in the people. I respect all of you that voted for Hillary and I'm just as let down as you. Today hate did beat love and from the looks we took one step forwards because of Obama and at least 2 steps back.
I just hope minorities aren't treated as bad as I fear. Everybody in the end are humans and to judge people based off their skin is deplorable and a unevolved way of looking at people.
Today is a sad day. Goodnight and may we all hope things will somehow not be as dark as most of us fear.
Least I know a good majority of gaf belived there was some good of the United States in the people. I respect all of you that voted for Hillary and I'm just as let down as you. Today hate did beat love and from the looks we took one step forwards because of Obama and at least 2 steps back.
I just hope minorities aren't treated as bad as I fear. Everybody in the end are humans and to judge people based off their skin is deplorable and a unevolved way of looking at people.
Today is a sad day. Goodnight and may we all hope things will somehow not be as dark as most of us fear.
That's true, but my question wasn't about this election per se, but the whole process of the elections in the states. Correct me if I'm wrong, the popular vote doesn't count for shit?
Graphics Horse
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Depends on how much you think the scandals hurt Hillary. He wouldn't have had the email server, he wouldn't have had the paid speeches thing, and he certainly wouldn't have been seen as an "establishment" candidate.
If you feel that some meaningful percentage of the voting public decided any of those hot button topics/scandals (and any I may have missed) were more important to them than policy (and frankly I think that may have been the case here in the rust belt, where I feel some non-college educated whites, while not all stupid and racist as some may imply, certainly weren't checking whether a candidate's proposals were feasible), it's not insane to think that he could have done better in those areas.
Given the states that Trump has flipped, states that haven't been red in a long time, I'm not sure how Bernie could have done much worse.
That's presidential.
CrispyBoar
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I'm very sorry. The best that we can do is pray for a substitute to help her.
For me, her speaking tonight wouldn't even really be about the election. That's over. It's about leadership. Rallying the half of the country not driving us towards a cliff and is in freaking mourning right now.
I don't know. Maybe the folks talking about the popular vote and whatnot are right when they say it's not important if she spoke or not. But to the political layman that I am, it seemed like a golden opportunity to at least give a small sliver of hope to the large swath of the country currently starving of it.
I don't know. Maybe the folks talking about the popular vote and whatnot are right when they say it's not important if she spoke or not. But to the political layman that I am, it seemed like a golden opportunity to at least give a small sliver of hope to the large swath of the country currently starving of it.
Democracy absolutely fails when it's used to elect a bigoted jackass that has no idea how to run a country and that will fuck up the country badly for decades. Terrible presidents are absolutely a failing of democracy.
If guess you are right if you dcn't count homosexuals, minorities, latinos etc as humans sure.
DrunkShogun
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Welcome to the family America, guess British and Americans are as close as ever in making questionable choices. 2016 - the year of fuck ups.
ATOMICJORGE
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1:23 AM here can't sleep
What was expected of Trump was to drag it out for days and weeks saying it's rigged.
ErasureAcer
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I can't even bring myself to turn on the TV. Watched John King and Leslie Blitzer go through the numbers all night. I do not wish to hear any talking heads with commentary. The media is pathetic.
Curt Baboon
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John Oliver did his absolute best, though.
I have a serious amount in US stocks. And you know what, I don't care that they plummet down right now. They will recover. What I do care about is how the world and general attitudes will change. I am so worried right now for all minorities and people who don't fit into this new America we will see these coming years.
We have entered the void.
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Wow, just woke up. What did you do America?
Stumpokapow
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It makes little sense to worry about the "people" "deciding" the president -- in practice, each state is worth a certain number of points, and the points decide the election. The points are roughly but not quite balanced to the number of people in the state.
Obama said the EXACT same thing.
cloudstrife
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I remember.
You Are Viewtiful
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Loololol Hillary still got this. Is this babby's first election?
Condescending assholes.
Rentahamster
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It would be funny if he didn't.
digoutyoursoul
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I just took my meds, so I've got about 90 minutes before I pass out.
That and Bernie just had that "IT". He was incredibly charismatic. I mean, just see the audience in Bernie's last speech for Hilary's nomination. People were in freaking tears over this guy.
I never got that sense with Hilary. Obama had "IT", Bernie had "IT", but Hiliary, and clearly now, absolutely did not.
Agreed.
People are responsible for their votes, media or not. Of course the media has its own responsibilities, but it doesn't just come down to them.
Yes this. It's not the System that a problem or the biggest problem. It's AMerica's Ideology. People voted just as they were meant to. They just voted for some things that are extremely socially regressive.
There's a difference between being condescending and reassuring. The former makes you "tool", as they put it
The electoral college was implemented to placate wealthy plantation owners
Probably next year.
Then you have a very dangerous understanding of democracy. Again, democracy does not mean that it's only ok when YOUR candidate with the policies that YOU think are right wins. And if anyone the opponents are at fault who failed in convincing people why they are the better choice.
How About No
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I'm really sorry and I'm hoping everything works out the best for her
Obliterator
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I mean this whole election can't be boiled down to racism, sexism. Hilary is down compared to Obama in numerous categories, including women, latino's, etc.
I am no Trump fan but choosing Hilary utterly screwed the Democratic party and I don't see a counter argument against it. They should have went with Bernie, he put up a damn good fight in many of the states that hurt Clinton.
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