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some guy leaked FFXV's story six months ago | up: newer 4chan stuff as of Dec 9th

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Heartfyre

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Some incredible reading.

But I'm so glad XV is done. I'm ready to accept it for what it is, but it's amazing to have some insight into the trainwreck it was in development. That the game we got came out of that is a miracle.

I can only hope XVI's development is not so sordid. For Square-Enix's sake.
 
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Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Delaney said:
Can we talk about the team allegedly realising that Cor served no purpose storywise and just writting him out like "uhm... I'm sure they won't notice" lol
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Really would love to know his original role in Nomura's story since he used to be part of the game's key visual.
 
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Ray Down

Banned
Thread in a nutshell:

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Ishida

Banned
JeffZero said:
I'm not buying into the Versus gig as confirmed, for what it's worth. I believed the original XV leak, though, because we had reason to strongly suspect that this one as well as one of a couple of others were both getting a tremendous amount right, as soon as marketing released its very next piece.

In this case, and certainly in the case of a prospective Versus XV, I am doubtful.
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The fact that people here are now acting like this "story" for Versus XIII is officially real and are angry (Ha ha ha! For real?!) is so confusing. People will eat anything that confirms their biases.

Glorious Nomura Vision indeed!
 
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Perfect Cha0s

Member
The "Versus XV" rumor just seems waaaaaay too out there. The financial situation and just needing to get a big game out ASAP being the catalyst for directorial/scope changes is pretty believable, but I don't buy for a second that SE would say "well, okay, now that we're making money, you can go retell XV and do whatever you want."

There being a Versus XV at all is BS enough, but the whole bit about it covering the original VsXIII story premise is the BS cherry on top.

orochi91 said:
The whole ghost revelation thing, along with Stella being dead, could have made for some seriously poignant/tear-jerking scenes if the script had stayed the same.

This is actually upsetting, knowing how amazing and grim the story originally was.

I would have been better off not knowing these FFv13 leaks, lol

Now I'll constantly be judging and comparing FF15's plot/characters to FFv13s.

Fuck.
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I'd just move on. At the end of the day, XV is out and there's no going back.
 
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Burbeting

Banned
Kagari said:
Noctis was also a completely different character if you go back and watch the old trailers.
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I really liked the Noctis we got (he didn't feel like a anime trope), but I wouldn't have mind seeing what kind of character Nomura's version was going to be.
 
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Kusagari

Member
God, it's so disappointing knowing what we ended up with.

Everything we've heard about the original Versus plot sounds amazing.
 
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Blackleg-sanji1

Banned
Ishida said:
The fact that people here are now acting like this "story" for Versus XIII is officially real and are angry (Ha ha ha! For real?!) is so confusing. People will eat anything that confirms their biases.

Glorious Nomura Vision indeed!
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Meh I believe it sounds like some Nomura ass shit. Everybody knowing Stella is dead tho after all that parading her around I don't believe tho lol. Not once did I ever see anybody mention that. Ever!
 
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Mortemis

Banned
Falk said:
he sure hallucinates himself a lot
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since he is a little kid, his imagination isn't as robust and coherent. It's much easier to think of everyone as yourself than think of unique autonomous beings.

Sora continues to battle with himself inside of his own mind, which reflects the mental health issues that he faces in the real world.
 
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Zafir

Member
Delaney said:
Can we talk about the team allegedly realising that Cor served no purpose storywise and just writting him out like "uhm... I'm sure they won't notice" lol
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Cor was such a missed opportunity.

They don't even really explain him. I mean he's a Marshal and he's got the title of Immortal. That's to the extent of what you know about him.
 
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Nightengale

Member
There's nothing about that supposed VSXIII original story that automatically makes it better than XV.

It's simply a different story and we lack nuances of the vsxiii moment to moment to know if it'll be good or bad.
 
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Lunafreya Nox Fleuret

Member
Delaney said:
Can we talk about the team allegedly realising that Cor served no purpose storywise and just writting him out like "uhm... I'm sure they won't notice" lol
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So what really happened to that guy. I liked him and then he buzzes off to watch
Luna on TV and then we never see him again. Did he just think Noctis was a failure and went into hiding?
 
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Ray Down

Banned
Perfect Cha0s said:
The "Versus XV" rumor just seems waaaaaay too out there. The financial situation and just needing to get a big game out ASAP being the catalyst for directorial/scope changes is pretty believable, but I don't buy for a second that SE would say "well, okay, now that we're making money, you can go retell XV and do whatever you want."

There being a Versus XV at all is BS enough, but the whole bit about it covering the original VsXIII story premise is the BS cherry on top.

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I'd just move on. At the end of the day, XV is out and there's no going back.
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Oh that's bullshit, there's no question.
 
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Trago

Member
Kagari said:
Noctis was also a completely different character if you go back and watch the old trailers.
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Yeah, he seemed like a cold, lonely dude in the older trailers. In the game, he came off as an annoying snarky bro or something. I blame the writers.
 
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Ydelnae

Member
People are mixing up 4chan threads.
  • Thread #1 about the story having leaked 6 months before the game released
  • Thread #2 about someone who allegedly worked on the game, Versus XIII info, cut content from XV
  • Thread #3 about someone claiming Nomura is directing a game called Versus XV that fits his vision for XV, also Kingsglaive: The Game in production right now
 
TissueBox

TissueBox

Member
I know Versus seemed like 'edgy' at its most possessed form but I really wanted to see what Nomura and the team would've tried with it. As a contrast to XIII it had potential to go into some convoluted, abstract stuff that we'll never get to completely see now. Even if it were to suck, if it was brought to life with its vision intact and uncompromised it would have at least felt complete despite being sucky, instead of being sucky because it was incomplete.

Regarding Stella and the ambiguity of her being alive, considering the connection beteeen death, dreams, and fantasy the game's early trailers/details implied, I mean, it's possible; some of the earlier trailers hint at such a fate.

"The true figure still lies asleep in the fantasy."

Having the ability to see 'the light of expiring souls'.

Both of them having a near-death experience.

But, well, it's just all so deliberately vague and cryptic, lol. Nevertheless, it is interesting to consider.
 
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Ishida

Banned
Delaney said:
People are mixing up 4chan threads.
  • Thread #1 about the story having leaked 6 months before the game released
  • Thread #2 about someone who allegedly worked on the game, Versus XIII info, cut content from XV
  • Thread #3 about someone claiming Nomura is directing a game called Versus XV that fits his vision for XV, also Kingsglaive: The Game in production right now
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Well, according to most people here, the first thread having a lot of truth to it automatically means the other 2 are real also, and that we must be angry for this officially confirmed Nomura Vision about Sixth Sense Stella.

"It all makes sense now!" :p
 
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Ray Down

Banned
Delaney said:
People are mixing up 4chan threads.
  • Thread #1 about the story having leaked 6 months before the game released
  • Thread #2 about someone who allegedly worked on the game, Versus XIII info, cut content from XV
  • Thread #3 about someone claiming Nomura is directing a game called Versus XV that fits his vision for XV, also Kingsglaive: The Game in production right now
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That's why I should have made my thread!
 
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rhandino

Banned
Ishida said:
The fact that people here are now acting like this "story" for Versus XIII is officially real and are angry (Ha ha ha! For real?!) is so confusing. People will eat anything that confirms their biases.

Glorious Nomura Vision indeed!
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That rumour could very well be fanfiction but it sounds so out there that I can totally believe that was the original vision for the game.

And I am not really mad that Nomura could not realize his vision but mad at S-E that rushed Tabata to push FFXV out of the door to the point that the 2nd half is so half-baked that they are announcing patches to make more sense of the story and fix a level that has not right to be as bad as it is.

EDIT: Right now I am at the "wait and see" stage to see if those patches to "fix" the story align with these leaks/fanfiction/novella/etc...
 
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HMD

Member
Nightengale said:
There's nothing about that supposed VSXIII original story that automatically makes it better than XV.

It's simply a different story and we lack nuances of the vsxiii moment to moment to know if it'll be good or bad.
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It would have had better cutscenes and more than 2 and a half CGI cutscenes though.
 
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Gai Murakumo

Member
Reading more of the things posted in this thread is making me excited about a game that will more than likely not happen. Getting the original Versus vision in a game would be nice but we just have to move on unfortunately.
 
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Ray Down

Banned
rhandino said:
That rumour could very well be fanfiction but it sounds so out there that I can totally believe that was the original vision for the game.

And I am not really mad that Nomura could not realize his vision but mad at S-E that rushed Tabata to push FFXV out of the door to the point that the 2nd half is so half-baked that they are announcing patches to make more sense of the story and fix a level that has not right to be as bad as it is.
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Its mostly this, it sucks that SE rushed it even after they brought Tabata in.
 
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Shredderi

Member
Crazy how a lot of that leak ended up being true apparently. I'm just so overjoyed that the game has finally been released. Aside from some updates and dlc Square can finally move to new things and they don't have to keep so hush hush about FF7R.
 
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Devilinthiscity

Member
Ray Down said:
Even talk about Versus plot or at least what he learned:

The game centered about death, ghosts and hallucination/dreams. Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember. Ardyn was Noctis ancestor and he was responsible of the crystals disappearing over time (the only one left was Lucis crystal). Regis died in front of Noctis because his bodyguards betrayed him. The protagonists had to leave the capital because their nation lost the war.

The game didn't focus on summons that much (they still existed) and instead there were actual gods which didn't appear physically. One of the gods was the main antagonist of the first FF game. Each nation was inspired by a different capital of the world. The empire was using ghosts as weapons. Ravus wanted to kill Noctis for having killed her sister. The game ended in another dimension which was supposed to be their version of the after-life.
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Totally forgot about that leaked story thread. Finally going through it and seeing how everything was pretty much right is disheartening. The stuff the guy said about the Versus plot sounds better than what we got :(. It's crazy how much stuff got cut from the game according to those posts. Tabata and the team pulled off a miracle. The game probably would have got destroyed by critics if it had released September 30th.
 
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Joqu

Member
Kagari said:
Noctis was also a completely different character if you go back and watch the old trailers.
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I dunno, is he? Maybe it's just me liking XV Noctis a lot, but he actually seems pretty similar to me. A little quirkier I guess? We didn't really get to see him in Versus in a setting that would lend itself to that kind of thing tho

Blackleg-sanji1 said:
Meh I believe it sounds like some Nomura ass shit. Everybody knowing Stella is dead tho after all that parading her around I don't believe tho lol. Not once did I ever see anybody mention that. Ever!
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Yeah. I'm sure someone mentioned it, but it can't have been a common thing
 
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Blackleg-sanji1

Banned
Ishida said:
Outline it, please. A list with ALL the differences to the final XV is appreciated. I'll wait.
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Let it go bro. You know how this versus vs 15 is going to go. It's a concept and a concept will always sound better than an executed product period. It could've been worse it could've been better. Let ppl be reminiscent of versus just as they should let others enjoy 15
 
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