-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
- Thread starter SteveO409
- Start date
- Status
Just looked at some Lair gameplay on Youtube, you're right. Might have just been the strafing dragons. Lair... didn't hold up.
Hope Platinum come out of this alright. They can't perish before making a new Devil May Cry.
Does anyone else kind of feel like we might see a Sony-P* collaboration in the near future? If the cancellation of Scalebound does leave them in the lurch then even a small game with Sony might be beneficial to them, and the goodwill for Sony would be through the roof.
Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
Didn't this end up becoming Fantasy Life on the 3DS?
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Yes, if showing an E3 CGI trailer for a game is not announcing a game.
Does that really change the meaning of what I was saying?
I never said they were especially worse than other publishers. They certainly have been mismanaging projects *lately.*
i dont get this "ms fucked pg" over narrative
why would they cancel a good game ? if it looks like a duck,walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....
They need to combine them into one game. Gears of Halorza
SomedayTheFire
Member
They release Relic Rescue as Zipline and Microsoft Flight as Microsoft Studios Vancouver.
Shikamaru Ninja
任天å ã® å¿è
It's a totally different game but shares a spiritual connection. TFO was a much more appealing concept.
Ah, okay!
This part was not under Don though, they were mobilised into a Gears factory and Ron was brought in with all his talent and experience to steer the studio. My point still stands, Mattrick isnt part of Coalition, they were strengthened when he left. Both talent and investment.
Glass Rebel
Member
You just know there's gonna be a Tales of Halorza at some point.
VincentMatts
Member
Weve been through this. This article only proves my point again that the Xbox360 had 20 million more consoles sold than xbox one when 3 came out.
curiouscharles
Member
wow MS, just... wow.
i mean, i mostly buy xbox consoles for halo anyway, but you're really not giving me anything to be excited about anymore.
i mean, i mostly buy xbox consoles for halo anyway, but you're really not giving me anything to be excited about anymore.
seriously... WOW
facetheslayer92
Member
Yup, the Kinect must have given them an insane boost in profit in the short run. It might be biting Microsoft Studios in the ass now.
I am not sure they are interested. But it would be good to for them to get more work alongside the work they will probably have from Nintendo.
Not neccisarily Sony, but i think that a partnership with somebody has to come in short order, they can't sustain themselves with such a vacuum for long.
They basically just shut down a game a huge portion of the studio was working on with nothing to show for it besides wasted money and man hours.
If Sony wants to give them that opportunity, i would not be against it, but anyone could do it.
FunkyPajamas
Member
I'm partial to Halo of Forzwars. Rolls right off the tongue.
t_wilson01
Member
I'm quite surprised by this announcement. Did the game have no redeeming features at all that it had to be cancelled?
OK, now this was really funny. lol
No ill will but fuck all MS fans .. is how I just read this. I mean come on, how about waiting for the actual details to come through first?
The Coalition was originally Black Tusk Studio/MGS Vancouver and was established under Mattrick. It wasn't until after Mattrick had left when the Black Tusk IP was shitcanned so they could make Gears.
This insight is so vacuous, though.
Why would they bundle Kinect?
Why would they TV TV TV?
Why would they make any mistake, ever?
Mistakes happen. Saying ex-post "if it was good they wouldn't cancel it, therefore it is not good" is circular logic based on nothing but blind faith.
Why use cloud when scorpio is coming... i really think crackdown 3 is the second next project to get cancel after that HD port of phantom dust.
I'd imagine that Platinum is frantically trying to get new contracts asap from anybody. I'm no insider or anything but basic sense tells me that an independent developer losing their biggest contract mid-development is really, really bad.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
The studio was made under Mattrick, hence under Mattrick, Microsoft was opening and acquiring studio which is not the case under Spencer.
Pathfinder
Member
The assumption is its still being worked on.
Cloud physics wasn't thrown under the bus. Their last showing of the game with cloud physics was damn impressive.
Unfortunately, we haven't seen anything since.
I'm guessing they weren't happy with the way the game was shaping up but they couldn't out-right cancel it without resorting to contingencies within their contract with Platinum. Basically, make it their fault for failing to deliver on criteria.
But I have no idea, really.
The other possibility is Ms just not knowing what they want, constantly changing their minds, demanding alterations that Platinum didn't have the proper resources for, etc. surprise! Game is shit.
The Last Wizard
Member
So are we looking at another true fantasy online live situation?
Suzushiiro
Banned
I mean to be fair canceling games that you've put a shitload of promotion into isn't a thing that's normal, at least in the major publisher space. There's not really a standard playbook here.
except we have tons of videos showcasing a big pile of dogshit
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Wow that's disappointing
During gamescom 2016 year they showed Scalebound in private showings.
They showed off something called "Dragon Link", something that they, as far as I know, haven't shown to the public ever and now possibly never will. Up until that point they only showed fairly basic combat that looked great but more in the vein of Dragon's Dogma and less like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. That's why many people used to Kamiya's games were pretty disappointed. And then they showed Dragon Link. It's a button you hold and then the camera switched into First Person Mode...and you controlled the dragon. So then you controlled the Dragon from Drew's perspective, which still looks HUGE because the camera doesn't zoom out but goes into first person and you fight against another huge Monster. And then they started comboing. They fluidly switched from Drew to the Dragon to Drew by holding or not holding the Dragon Link button.
Think the weapon system of DmC but instead of holding a button to switch to a certain weapon you hold a button to switch to a fucking dragon. So these two characters juggled that huge monkey enemy into the air with all the usual attacks and combos you know from Platinum Games only it was A HUGE GODDAMN DRAGON DOING THE COMBOS. There was a combo counter and a rating and everything. It was their direct answer to the "Where is the Platinum action?" question.
It looked fucking great and as far as I'm aware they have never released that footage, just as they never showed the HUGE array of customising options and RPG features.
I'm so mad about this cancellation. Goddamnit.
They showed off something called "Dragon Link", something that they, as far as I know, haven't shown to the public ever and now possibly never will. Up until that point they only showed fairly basic combat that looked great but more in the vein of Dragon's Dogma and less like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. That's why many people used to Kamiya's games were pretty disappointed. And then they showed Dragon Link. It's a button you hold and then the camera switched into First Person Mode...and you controlled the dragon. So then you controlled the Dragon from Drew's perspective, which still looks HUGE because the camera doesn't zoom out but goes into first person and you fight against another huge Monster. And then they started comboing. They fluidly switched from Drew to the Dragon to Drew by holding or not holding the Dragon Link button.
Think the weapon system of DmC but instead of holding a button to switch to a certain weapon you hold a button to switch to a fucking dragon. So these two characters juggled that huge monkey enemy into the air with all the usual attacks and combos you know from Platinum Games only it was A HUGE GODDAMN DRAGON DOING THE COMBOS. There was a combo counter and a rating and everything. It was their direct answer to the "Where is the Platinum action?" question.
It looked fucking great and as far as I'm aware they have never released that footage, just as they never showed the HUGE array of customising options and RPG features.
I'm so mad about this cancellation. Goddamnit.
Ya know? If MS just cancelled the game because it was just a damn mess. While that sucks. I can see it and really wouldn't have issue with it. At all.
But if these allegations are true and MS pretty much set PG up to fail. They just made this a bigger deal than it was ever going to be. IMO SB was never going to be a huge seller. Probably sell at best like 1.5 million. Which I think is something that the Xbox needs just to show there is an audience for these games.
But if they cancelled it because it was a mess I doubt you'd have too many people upset. But if these reports are true and it does get reported on in detail. This could potentially damage their reputation.
But if these allegations are true and MS pretty much set PG up to fail. They just made this a bigger deal than it was ever going to be. IMO SB was never going to be a huge seller. Probably sell at best like 1.5 million. Which I think is something that the Xbox needs just to show there is an audience for these games.
But if they cancelled it because it was a mess I doubt you'd have too many people upset. But if these reports are true and it does get reported on in detail. This could potentially damage their reputation.
The product doesn't exist anymore, why sell it? If the videos stayed online they'd never see the end of trolls and genuinely interested people asking about the game.
They basically deleting all their photos with their ex girlfriend from the 'Gram...
Read above, they turned into a studio with direction (and a hit) post Mattrick.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I'm so fucking triggered right now. That sounds cool
Mass_Pincup
Banned
This sounds so cool...
Pretty much where I'm at as well.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
It still hurts. <z3
Whoever is managing these titles lately is dropping the ball. Once, ok. Twice? Mulligan. Three times? Four?
The truth of the matter is that outside of Gears 4, Sunset Overdrive and Forza series, it seems like every other release comes with some weird fucked up caveat attached.
FlowersisBritish
fleurs n'est pas britannique
I mean, Sony is pretty aware of the general mood of the more hardcore gamers. It wouldn't surprise me of they went to Platinum and said "Sucks, but wanna make a game with us?" and then bring that up at an E3 with huge fanfare. I mean, they picked up From for Bloodborne after DS1 abd DS1 was sucessful, very even, but no CoD or anything. Wouldn't surprise me if they did something like that again.
I'd like to think they're just shelving it for Scorpio instead. The rumours about Kamiya's health issues are a concern though.
lmao, how does this even make sense? If its on xbox 1 scorpio its on xb1 OG.
RichiRamjag
Member
- Status