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DC Extended Universe |OT2| A League of xX-=DaMaGeD=-Xx Gentlemen

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Cipherr

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Need to just ban talking about the MCU in here period honestly. The issue isn't people entering the thread everyday to "defend the mcu" the issue is that the mcu is spoken and brought up here every damn day to begin with.

Have a problem with a film's early reception? Find a way to vocalize that without rubber banding back to "Yeah bb..b..b...but Dr. Strange though!", that shit is weak. And it invites people that disagree with you to make a topic of it.
 

ReiGun

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Like clockwork. I hear a whisper of some DCEU news on the wind, come in here to see what's up, and y'all are back the stupid "persecution complex" debate again.

Superhero movies truly are the OT's version of gaming side.
 

IconGrist

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It's the fact that I see so many act as if it's all MCU fanboys/girls who are just hoping for these movies to fail. It ain't. I want these movies to succeed. I have said this many times, but at this rate? Nah son. I am one of many. More than the people wishing for this to fail. Who are again such a minority that exist that they don't matter except for assholes on message boards like GAF

And one thing that blows me, "Oh so and so happened in the MCU, why don't people talk about that??" Yeah that doesn't net you any goodwill.

You're kind of stepping on yourself here, Lion. So many here? Off the top of my head I can maybe give you 3 names. Then at the same time you say those who view it like you do are the majority but where are you getting that from? Have you spoken to every poster who has said something to incite a reaction out of a DCEU fan to get their perspective? Didn't I just see you get on somebody's case the other day about tasting sweet DC fan tears? It's a problem that exists and people just keep handwaving it away.

As to your second point, what does goodwill have to do with it? Are these people not supposed to inquire as to why Marvel gets away with a generic something or other while DC is lambasted for it? They have to be quiet about it for what reason exactly? Wouldn't the exact question be just as valid if you switched the companies around?

Like DC fans have to behave or they get grounded or something, lol.
 
Need to just ban talking about the MCU in here period honestly. The issue isn't people entering the thread everyday to "defend the mcu" the issue is that the mcu is spoken and brought up here every damn day to begin with.

I just realised, if In your first paragraph if you replace "Mcu" with "Dceu" you're almost describing the Off-Topic side these days.

I would say this is like a cycle, one thing inevitably ends up prompting the other I guess...
 

ReiGun

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We need a giant alien squid as a common foe to end this bickering.

Can't get a squid. Would a starfish do?

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Just read the Wonder Woman spoilers and...It seems like a safe run of the mill movie. Unfortunately in my opinion, DC needed Wonder Woman (and Justice League) to knock it right out of the park ala The Dark Knight (Where it's a GREAT film regardless of source material)
 
Just read the Wonder Woman spoilers and...It seems like a safe run of the mill movie. Unfortunately in my opinion, DC needed Wonder Woman (and Justice League) to knock it right out of the park ala The Dark Knight (Where it's a GREAT film regardless of source material)
Lowered explanation, I will take a OK DCEU movie right now.
 
Just read the Wonder Woman spoilers and...It seems like a safe run of the mill movie. Unfortunately in my opinion, DC needed Wonder Woman (and Justice League) to knock it right out of the park ala The Dark Knight (Where it's a GREAT film regardless of source material)

Reads like the kind of movie that should have well before BvS and before they started writing/making JL
 
Just read the Wonder Woman spoilers and...It seems like a safe run of the mill movie. Unfortunately in my opinion, DC needed Wonder Woman (and Justice League) to knock it right out of the park ala The Dark Knight (Where it's a GREAT film regardless of source material)
No, they don't. Why is it DC films need to be perfect or up to the highest level of the genre? Have people lost connection with reality?


The hypocrisy is incredible.
 
Just read the Wonder Woman spoilers and...It seems like a safe run of the mill movie. Unfortunately in my opinion, DC needed Wonder Woman (and Justice League) to knock it right out of the park ala The Dark Knight (Where it's a GREAT film regardless of source material)

At this point, "safe, run-of-the-mill" would be a homerun for this series - critically.
 

Cipherr

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At this point, "safe, run-of-the-mill" would be a homerun for this series - critically.

Agree. It doesn't need to be the best ever. It just needs to not be bad. And WW doesn't seem bad if the stuff in that thread is true. So it sounds like there's going to be a great foundation to spring forward from and leave the rest in the past starting with WW.
 

Azazzel

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Wonder woman can be a "run of the mill" origin movie and that's ok. The only thing that matters right now is making enough money and not getting trashed by the critics.

Now, Justice League really needs to blow our heads for the DCEU to become something desirable again and maybe to convince Affleck not to kill his contract lol.
 

Wingfan19

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Yeah, WW needs to hit that 70%+ mark on RT and 6.5/10 or better average for the perception to even begin to turn in a positive light.
 
I don't know, I feel like the well is so poisoned that to truly rebuild confidence in this cinematic universe, there needs to be a film that is Critically acclaimed to hold it all together.

The MCU went through a bit of a rough spell after Iron Man. Of the 5 Phase One films moving towards The Avengers, only Iron Man and The First Avenger could be considered great with the rest either being meh or shit tier. What kept things moving along though was that initial confidence and trust Marvel built with Iron Man.

They proved they could hit it out of the park so there was faith and hope they could do it again when Hulk, IM2 and Thor were mixedly received.

DC has had the opposite happen. MOS was meh, BVS was a trainwreck, SS was even worst.

WW needed to be a HUGE critical success to start building that trust.
 

guek

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You been busy lately, man? Every time I've seen you post it's either a gif or some really short text.

lol, yeah a little. I'm dog sitting and working a lot, but I've also just been more embroiled in political shit over CBMs. The country going to hell helps put arguing about CBMs in perspective.
 
lol, yeah a little. I'm dog sitting and working a lot, but I've also just been more embroiled in political shit over CBMs. The country going to hell helps put arguing about CBMs in perspective.

I think it reached a boiling point on this forum when some doofus in the OT Reeves/Batman thread had a panic attack and compared some guy who didn't like mcu movies to trump voters

It was like...aiight this has gotten next level pathetic now
 
I don't know, I feel like the well is so poisoned that to truly rebuild confidence in this cinematic universe, there needs to be a film that is Critically acclaimed to hold it all together.

The MCU went through a bit of a rough spell after Iron Man. Of the 5 Phase One films moving towards The Avengers, only Iron Man and The First Avenger could be considered great with the rest either being meh or shit tier. What kept things moving along though was that initial confidence and trust Marvel built with Iron Man.

They proved they could hit it out of the park so there was faith and hope they could do it again when Hulk, IM2 and Thor were mixedly received.

DC has had the opposite happen. MOS was meh, BVS was a trainwreck, SS was even worst.

WW needed to be a HUGE critical success to start building that trust.
What do you know? You talk about it as if the movie has been rated by critics, seen by general public and deemed substandard, please reflect about what you are saying cause is pure nonsense.
 
It's the fact that I see so many act as if it's all MCU fanboys/girls who are just hoping for these movies to fail. It ain't. I want these movies to succeed. I have said this many times, but at this rate? Nah son. I am one of many. More than the people wishing for this to fail. Who are again such a minority that exist that they don't matter except for assholes on message boards like GAF

And one thing that blows me, "Oh so and so happened in the MCU, why don't people talk about that??" Yeah that doesn't net you any goodwill.

oh get over yourself dude, DC stans are mostly the ones who moan the marvel stans. go look at the DC Cinematic subreddit, Calling Snyder 'God' and weird shit like that. And the funny enough the DC stans are the ones who ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS talk about marvel without fail. DC folks want a giant fucking hugbox.

Whereas Marvel stans just call their capeshit good movies and didn't call them masterpieces like Cetrain folks did with BvS and all that other dumb shit.

FOH with that Persecution complex.
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No one in here cares enough about the MCU to want it to fail. Honestly. Pointing out the inconsistencies is just standard criticism.

lol, Funny considering it's talked about on every page in here.
 
It's always gonna be talked about. And it's myopic to think it's just because of fanboy shit (although that's a big part of it)

Because dc is making the awful mistake of chasing marvel and trying to replicate that kind of lane. It's kind of hard not to discuss mcu and your thoughts on whether they're doing it right or wrong or whatever when the DCEU (aside from snyder's movies it looks like) seems to want to be a DC reskin of Marvels success
 
oh get over yourself dude, DC stans are mostly the ones who moan the marvel stans. go look at the DC Cinematic subreddit, Calling Snyder 'God' and weird shit like that. And the funny enough the DC stans are the ones who ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS talk about marvel without fail. DC folks want a giant fucking hugbox.

Whereas Marvel stans just call their capeshit good movies and didn't call them masterpieces like Cetrain folks did with BvS and all that other dumb shit.

What? Have you not seen Twitter? Have you not seen this board?
 

duckroll

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Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.
 

Ross61

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Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.

The DCEU is doomed! What is there to be satisfied about?!
 

Ninjimbo

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Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.
Am I not on the record of wanting to keep Snyder's vision? I really don't want WB to get rid of him or scrap his vision.

I don't care much for Suicide Squad but I'll talk up MoS and BvS all day. It's just been there done that. BvS has been discussed to death and the way I'm watching and appreciating BvS nowadays doesn't really lend itself to talking about it on GAF. It's way way too subjective.
 

LionPride

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Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.
Any discussion on what some in here find to be a good even great movie has been done to death and a half
 

jrush64

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oh get over yourself dude, DC stans are mostly the ones who moan the marvel stans. go look at the DC Cinematic subreddit, Calling Snyder 'God' and weird shit like that. And the funny enough the DC stans are the ones who ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS talk about marvel without fail. DC folks want a giant fucking hugbox.

Whereas Marvel stans just call their capeshit good movies and didn't call them masterpieces like Cetrain folks did with BvS and all that other dumb shit.

FOH with that Persecution complex.
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lol, Funny considering it's talked about on every page in here.

loool. You can't be serious with this shit. MCU fans don't troll DC fans on this very board? Are you serious?
 
Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.

No offense, but - from the outside - what exactly is there to be "satisfied" with?
 

LionPride

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oh get over yourself dude, DC stans are mostly the ones who moan the marvel stans. go look at the DC Cinematic subreddit, Calling Snyder 'God' and weird shit like that. And the funny enough the DC stans are the ones who ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS talk about marvel without fail. DC folks want a giant fucking hugbox.

Whereas Marvel stans just call their capeshit good movies and didn't call them masterpieces like Cetrain folks did with BvS and all that other dumb shit.

FOH with that Persecution complex.
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lol, Funny considering it's talked about on every page in here.
Did you actually read anything I said? Or anything I've EVER said in here? You shall not use da gawd Marcus Camby against me in this context
 
Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.

Cape genre is getting fucking toxic, if it's not already. I mean these movies require no critical thinking. And people get in their feelings about 50 year olds kicking minumum wage stunt men on a green screen.

People take this shit wayy to seriously these movies are mostly just revenue generators pumped out to the masses, no matter how well one 'thinks' they are made. But it doesn't mean one cant like them
 
Honestly, I think the biggest and saddest problem with this thread is that every now and then I pop in here, and there's never any constructive discussion about the DCEU. No one seems to be satisfied with it or like it. Everyone is either complaining about why Snyder isn't fired yet or whining about how there is "yet another DCEU hate thread". It's like watching a bunch of sad sacks just cuddle together to share their misery while being more miserable. It's weird and hilarious at the same time.
Well, there's no constructive discussion to be had when at the earliest indication of a positive discussion a mountain of "reboot everything" and "stop liking shit movies" posts with no substance are made. We cannot even talk amongst ourselves without others getting offensive cause we disagree with their position that the prior movies are pure shit.

How can the discussion be positive and constructive when there's no moderation to stop the nonsense and the shit posts?
 
Cape genre is getting fucking toxic, if it's not already. I mean these movies require no critical thinking. And people get in their feelings about 50 year olds kicking minumum wage stunt men on a green screen.

People take this shit wayy to seriously these movies are mostly just revenue generators pumped out to the masses, no matter how well one 'thinks' they are made. But it doesn't mean one cant like them
See example of shit post. Like, how can you even know that?

Hey everyone just be stupid, don't engage critically with the world cause Mix Master says so or he's gonna get you!!!


You are not part of the solution I would say.
 
Cape genre is getting fucking toxic, if it's not already. I mean these movies require no critical thinking. And people get in their feelings about 50 year olds kicking minumum wage stunt men on a green screen.

People take this shit wayy to seriously these movies are mostly just revenue generators pumped out to the masses, no matter how well one 'thinks' they are made. But it doesn't mean one cant like them

Ironic you're the one talking about toxicity only a few posts after your amazing stans and persecution complex rant about people in this thread.
 
See example of shit post. Like, how can you even know that?

Hey everyone just be stupid, don't engage critically with the world cause Mix Master says so or he's gonna get you!!!


You are not part of the solution I would say.

Watchmen and TDK (both DC films funny enough) are probably the only cape films that even did that, so the bar ain't high breh.

Ironic you're the one talking about toxicity only a few posts after your amazing stans and persecution complex rant about people in this thread.

way to miss my point dude
 

duckroll

Member
So since everyone agrees with the sentiment that discussion is really lame in here, how do you suggest we improve it? Community threads are more about the people in it than a specific discussion topic or single piece of news. It's a group effort. Any ideas? I don't feel I need to do this in the MCU thread at all because people just tend to talk about whatever new pieces of news or releases or toys or rumors without it turning immediately into a dumpster fire!
 
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