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Confederate Flag Group Charged For Threats Made At Black Child's Party (Sentenced)

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Mael

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More than a decade for a non-violent crime? I want them to be punished, but this seems a little too much.

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"Attempted murder," now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry?"
 

Ceres

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hmm there were a whole bunch of trucks, why are all the rest of the convicts getting just 2-4 years?

Plea deal. They agree to admit guilt usually for lesser charges. Less costs of a trial so DA is usually pretty leniant.

These two wanted to go to trial thinking they would not get convicted.
 
Finally. It's been a pretty bleak month. Lot's of racist people doing racist shit.
i never got to see moonlight but i hear it's the first now-oscar movie with all black cast! plus cottonmouth wins best supporting actor which is actually a first for a Muslim actor
 

rjinaz

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More than a decade for a non-violent crime? I want them to be punished, but this seems a little too much.

Nah. They weren't even arrested originally. Cops just let them roll out.
Now, tell me if this was a Black group doing this to a White child, they would have walked out of their with their lives, let alone not in cuffs?

The judge saw that hypocrisy.
 

Raven117

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Good on the Judge for taking a stand here. If there was ever a case to make an example of racists harassing people this is the one. Truck filled with people, Confederate Flags, yelling the n-word, AND brandishing firearms AT A KIDS BIRTHDAY PARTY.

For fucks sakes....
 

Spladam

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Nice, thread comes back from Necro to find some resolution.

You know, it feels bad to feel good about this. So good.
 
Plea deal. They agree to admit guilt usually for lesser charges. Less costs of a trial so DA is usually pretty leniant.

These two wanted to go to trial thinking they would not get convicted.
LOL so it's not like they even led the perpetration, they were perhaps arrogant about it and it led to them getting the worst of all of their collective actions, damn.

i'm not black, but i was at that party with children of my own with the birthday kid being a minority i'd feel the same way that mother did
Good point!
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More than a decade for a non-violent crime? I want them to be punished, but this seems a little too much.

They pointed guns at babies while verbally threatening to kill them. Judge made the correct call. I have zero sympathy for violent criminals. Combined with racial intimidation? They got off light in my book.
 
Good outcome, justice served. Only downside is that they'll probably come out of prison being even more racist instead of actually being rehabilitated.
 

rjinaz

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Good outcome, justice served. Only downside is that they'll probably come out of prison being even more racist instead of actually being rehabilitated.

Yeah and killers and violent crimes people will likely come out more violent.

The system is flawed there is no doubt it. But it would be tiring pointing that out in every thread somebody gets sentenced to jail in, I'm assuming you do.
 

Condom

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More than a decade for a non-violent crime? I want them to be punished, but this seems a little too much.

Sorry but this attitude towards non-violent crime is part of the reason why criminal bankers/officials/white collar people go unpunished or get away with 1 year sentences.
 
Yeah and killers and violent crimes people will likely come out more violent.

The system is flawed there is no doubt it. But it would be tiring pointing that out in every thread somebody gets sentenced to jail in, I'm assuming you do.
I'm not sure that I post a lot in these types of threads, so it's not tiring for me. This one caught my eye and I wanted to know what the sentence was. I'm asking honestly, are you offended by what I posted previously? It seems like I'm missing something. My mindset when posting what I did was about how in jail there are a lot of white supremacist groups (or so movies have led me to believe) so I kind of pictured these people being received as heroes/martyrs by those groups. That's all.
 
Sorry but this attitude towards non-violent crime is part of the reason why criminal bankers/officials/white collar people go unpunished or get away with 1 year sentences.

I also think some people aren't getting the whole story. A group drove by a children's birthday party with confederate flags all over their trucks while waving guns and treating to "kill ya'll (n-words)". I'm not really sure how anyone could take issue with the length of time that they're receiving.
 

The Kree

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I also think some people aren't getting the whole story. A group drove by a children's birthday party with confederate flags all over their trucks while waving guns and treating to "kill ya'll (n-words)". I'm not really sure how anyone could take issue with the length of time that they're receiving.

It's not long enough.
 

Ogodei

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In a vacuum, 15 years is a bit much even for a death threat, but a strong message against racism like this is just what's needed these days, now more than ever. It sends the message that society does not tolerate racial terrorism and *will* ruin your life if you get caught on it.
 
Sorry but this attitude towards non-violent crime is part of the reason why criminal bankers/officials/white collar people go unpunished or get away with 1 year sentences.

In a vacuum, 15 years is a bit much even for a death threat, but a strong message against racism like this is just what's needed these days, now more than ever. It sends the message that society does not tolerate racial terrorism and *will* ruin your life if you get caught on it.

Exactly why it was a harsh punishment. It's racial intimidation and these fucks need to get checked and learn the hard way that it's 2017 not 1917.
 
In a vacuum, 15 years is a bit much even for a death threat, but a strong message against racism like this is just what's needed these days, now more than ever. It sends the message that society does not tolerate racial terrorism and *will* ruin your life if you get caught on it.
I don't think 15 years is too much for a death threat in a country where anybody can walk into a store and buy a gun without background checks.

In this particular case, as you said, adding racism, plus improper use of a firearm (or basically armed threats) means to me there is potential for a race/hate crime. I'm totally fine with the sentence. I also like that this sets the precedent (again, as you said) and sends a clear message about this types of situations.
 
I'm not sure that I post a lot in these types of threads, so it's not tiring for me. This one caught my eye and I wanted to know what the sentence was. I'm asking honestly, are you offended by what I posted previously? It seems like I'm missing something. My mindset when posting what I did was about how in jail there are a lot of white supremacist groups (or so movies have led me to believe) so I kind of pictured these people being received as heroes/martyrs by those groups. That's all.

Well of course. They're super racist already and will come back just as or more, but they'll never organize into a terroristic gang again who openly intimidates and threatens to commit hate crimes if they know what's good for them. That's why they went to jail after all.
 

rjinaz

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I'm not sure that I post a lot in these types of threads, so it's not tiring for me. This one caught my eye and I wanted to know what the sentence was. I'm asking honestly, are you offended by what I posted previously? It seems like I'm missing something. My mindset when posting what I did was about how in jail there are a lot of white supremacist groups (or so movies have led me to believe) so I kind of pictured these people being received as heroes/martyrs by those groups. That's all.

And they probably will be. But there really isn't any alternative. It just seemed like a hot take, to me, like "all that is going to happen with them going to jail is them becoming more racist". It was just an interesting take away from the thread to say the least.

My thinking on that is, who cares? Had they not taken out guns at a child's birthday party I might be thinking about these people and what will become of them and how education would be a better system then just locking them away. Now though, I'm not giving them a second thought. Like I said, many people don't come out of jail for the better. Some do but most don't, and yet that's what we as a society have decided to do.

I don't think 15 years is too much for a death threat in a country where anybody can walk into a store and buy a gun without background checks.

In this particular case, as you said, adding racism, plus improper use of a firearm (or basically armed threats) means to me there is potential for a race/hate crime. I'm totally fine with the sentence. I also like that this sets the precedent (again, as you said) and sends a clear message about this types of situations.

But apparently I misread your intention. So never mind. It seems like you were just making an observation. Yeah it's shame prisons don't do more to educate people instead of just locking them away.
 
And they probably will be. But there really isn't any alternative. It just seemed like a hot take, to me, like "all that is going to happen with them going to jail is them becoming more racist". It was just an interesting take away from the thread to say the least.
That's what you focused on though. It wasn't even the main point in my post, and what you're saying is not what I posted, at all. "To say the least"... You can take this to PM if you want. Perhaps that way you can say what's really on your mind.
But apparently I misread your intention. So never mind. It seems like you were just making an observation. Yeah it's shame prisons don't do more to educate people instead of just locking them away.
Sure, never mind.
Well of course. They're super racist already and will come back just as or more, but they'll never organize into a terroristic gang again who openly intimidates and threatens to commit hate crimes if they know what's good for them. That's why they went to jail after all.
Right. Hence the "justice is served" in my post, and the follow up to it.
 
I usually end up really stressed out from the news because its typically how colored folk are getting fucked over. Its nice to have a news story where justice is served. Glad the judge called out the bullshit of the cops.
 

rjinaz

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That's what you focused on though. It wasn't even the main point in my post, and what you're saying is not what I posted, at all. "To say the least"... You can take this to PM if you want. Perhaps that way you can say what's really on your mind.

No I'm good. I don't argue with people on PMs. If you think I interpreted your post wrong, and I may have, then that's fine. I'll leave it there. I said what's on my mind.
 

Mesousa

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You don't do anything in Douglasville. A guy I went to school with is serving life in prison for robbing somebody in that county.
 

rjinaz

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You don't do anything in Douglasville. A guy I went to school with is serving life in prison for robbing somebody in that county.

Armed robbery I take it?

I mean I think crimes with guns should be severe. Hate crimes as well. usually they don't get taken seriously.

Anyway, I know there was 15 and 4 have been sentenced. Anybody know about what the other 11 got?
 

Mesousa

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Armed robbery I take it?

I mean I think crimes with guns should be severe. Hate crimes as well. usually they don't get taken seriously.

Anyway, I know there was 15 and 4 have been sentenced. Anybody know about what the other 11 got?

Yep. Dude robbed a prostitute of like 200 bucks with a pistol. Didnt take the plea and received life. Its a harsh place.
 

MarionCB

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I'm so relieved this thread was bumped to show justice served. They needed long sentences for something this egregious and I was worried they'd get a slap.

Has there been an investigation into the Douglasville Police Department over this? Because it is stunning to watch multiple police officers just waving those trucks off without arresting these people for what they'd done there, and after multiple other incidents elsewhere. They're just driving off, beeping their horns. There is no other explanation besides racism causing a dereliction of duty.
 

Lifeline

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Pointing guns at kids is non-violent?

You think showing up at a child's birthday party with racist memorabilia and hurling racial epithets at people while also brandishing guns is a non-violent crime?

K.

It's a threat of violence, not actually conducting violence. Maybe I'm just using the wrong word here. What I'm trying to say is more than a decade in prison for threats where no one got hurt seems excessive.
 
It's a threat of violence, not actually conducting violence. Maybe I'm just using the wrong word here. What I'm trying to say is more than a decade in prison for threats where no one got hurt seems excessive.

If it makes you feel better, they probably won't have to serve the full sentence.
 

theWB27

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It's a threat of violence, not actually conducting violence. Maybe I'm just using the wrong word here. What I'm trying to say is more than a decade in prison for threats where no one got hurt seems excessive.

But what about the racists pulling guns on kids amirite
 
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