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Confederate Flag Group Charged For Threats Made At Black Child's Party (Sentenced)

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Trojita

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I hope the families (kids) have healed from this traumatic event.

Do people here not realize Spain is a country in Europe full of white people with the last name Torres?
 
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DontBeThatGuy

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Nabs said:
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Hero.
 
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Darknight

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Trojita said:
I hope the families (kids) have healed from this traumatic event.

Do people here not realize Spain is a country in Europe full of white people with the last name Torres?
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What?

Jose Torres is 99% hispanic american. Also the dickweed is a bigot who hangs out with the kind that would pull the same shit to other people like him due to their heritage.

I hate hispanics that turn their back on minority groups just cause they have light skin and have self hate. Fuck that.

Edit: Im glad his bitch ass got 20 years. More of these types of case should happen towards hateful assholes.
 
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A Link to the Past

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Lifeline said:
It's a threat of violence, not actually conducting violence. Maybe I'm just using the wrong word here. What I'm trying to say is more than a decade in prison for threats where no one got hurt seems excessive.
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A terrorist threat like this is considered violence. Violence is not simply punching someone in the face or shooting someone.
 
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Lifeline

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Syder said:
Let's see how you feel when a couple of adults threaten your kids with guns with the attitude that they're superior and your kids shouldn't exist.
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Pretty fucked up thing to say. What i feel in that moment is not what i'll feel months or maybe years later. I have always been and will be against large pointless prison sentences.

The parents of the victimized kid forgive the racists during the court proceedings and say they're sorry it came this far.

Snowybreak said:
Look. Let me lay it out for you. Intimidation mixed with gang law mixed with implied assault with a deadly weapon can net you anywhere from 10-40 years in prison. Plus, you can mix in the overt racism and that paints it even worse, as well as the age of the victim.

You can hem and haw all you want about how "it wasn't really violence." But you fail to understand exactly how these decisions are decided. And no, it isn't excessive. Don't be a threatening racist piece of shit and you won't be locked up. We fucking lock up low level drug offenders for double dimes and no one says shit, but a few racists wielding guns hurl insults and intimidate a fucking group of people at A KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, and suddenly it's all "oh, but they shouldn't be punished that hard."

Jesus fucking Christ.

EDIT: oh yeah, I forgot, THIS WAS A HATE CRIME.
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I would say the same thing for drug offences. I just don't think people should have to spend a decade of their lives in prison for a crime where no one got physically hurt. Whether that's low level drug use/dealing or threatening minors. I think smaller sentences and larger fines being awarded to victims is a better way to do it.

I'm not defending these people, i'm just as satisfied as you are seeing them served with such a large sentence. But i've always been against large crime sentences for crimes where no one was physically hurt.

People don't realize how large a decade is, by the time you're out your 10 year old kids will be college going adults.

I have my grievances with prison system, but this thread was probably not the best place to talk about them.
 
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mclem

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Lifeline said:
I'm not defending these people, i'm just as satisfied as you are seeing them served with such a large sentence. But i've always been against large crime sentences for crimes where no one was physically hurt.
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I think that's heavily downplaying the mental impact of these actions. The point of terrorism, after all, isn't to kill, it's to instill fear in the survivors.
 
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Lifeline said:
Pretty fucked up thing to say. What i feel in that moment is not what i'll feel months or maybe years later. I have always been and will be against large pointless prison sentences.

The parents of the victimized kid forgive the racists during the court proceedings and say they're sorry it came this far.



I would say the same thing for drug offences. I just don't think people should have to spend a decade of their lives in prison for a crime where no one got physically hurt. Whether that's low level drug use/dealing or threatening minors. I think smaller sentences and larger fines being awarded to victims is a better way to do it.

I'm not defending these people, i'm just as satisfied as you are seeing them served with such a large sentence. But i've always been against large crime sentences for crimes where no one was physically hurt.

People don't realize how large a decade is, by the time you're out your 10 year old kids will be college going adults.

I have my grievances with prison system, but this thread was probably not the best place to talk about them.
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Having a joint on you is not the same as pointing a loaded weapon at a child and embarking on a 2 day reign of terror
 
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Syder

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Lifeline said:
Pretty fucked up thing to say. What i feel in that moment is not what i'll feel months or maybe years later. I have always been and will be against large pointless prison sentences.

The parents of the victimized kid forgive the racists during the court proceedings and say they're sorry it came this far.
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Sorry, but if you come near my kid with a deadly weapon I'm not going to care if they put you in a cell for 50 years.
 
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Chococat

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mclem said:
I think that's heavily downplaying the mental impact of these actions. The point of terrorism, after all, isn't to kill, it's to instill fear in the survivors.
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This. Mental scars run deep. It possible these kid are going to have PTSD for the rest of their lives.
 
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excelsiorlef

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Slayven said:
Having a joint on you is not the same as pointing a loaded weapon at a child and embarking on a 2 day reign of terror
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And read this shit apology

Norton apologized for her role in the incident saying, "I want you all to know that is not me. That is not me, that is not him. I would never walk up to you and say those words to you. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I am so sorry."
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/us/georgia-couple-confederate-flags-threats/

We're not like that, we'd never do that, I am sorry that happened to you. Not once actually saying I'm sorry I did that to you. No responsibility taken at all. The apology is all about her and him and not the people they terrorized.

This is oh shit I'm going to jail maybe an apology will save me bullshit. No fucking way with an apology worded like that are they sorry, they're just sorry they got fucking caught.
 
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Breads

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This thread made me feel good.

Kinda.

I hate that people like this exist and am saddened that I will die before real progress is made with them.

But damnit if I'm not moved to tears of joy at their anguish. The one person actually said "this isn't me and this isn't him". Fuck you lady. You explicitly rode around to intimidate people and you chose a god damn kids party. Being armed makes you fucking terrorists and had you not been caught you wouldn't even give a shit about what you've done. You're only crying cause you got caught.

Good on the judge for discouraging this kind of heinous shit.

Lifeline said:
Pretty fucked up thing to say. What i feel in that moment is not what i'll feel months or maybe years later. I have always been and will be against large pointless prison sentences.

The parents of the victimized kid forgive the racists during the court proceedings and say they're sorry it came this far.



I would say the same thing for drug offences. I just don't think people should have to spend a decade of their lives in prison for a crime where no one got physically hurt. Whether that's low level drug use/dealing or threatening minors. I think smaller sentences and larger fines being awarded to victims is a better way to do it.

I'm not defending these people, i'm just as satisfied as you are seeing them served with such a large sentence. But i've always been against large crime sentences for crimes where no one was physically hurt.

People don't realize how large a decade is, by the time you're out your 10 year old kids will be college going adults.

I have my grievances with prison system, but this thread was probably not the best place to talk about them.
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What is the proper sentence for terrorism.
 
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FyreWulff

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"didn't technically" is how white supremacist groups operate and try to get away with stuff. If you point a gun you are intending to kill.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

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My sarcastic summary from the original thread (and some people were caping for this version of the story:

Sho_Nuff82 said:
I'm sure they were driving comfortably by the birthday party at 25 plus mph when the partygoers, who had been scoping out the street with binoculars and baskets full of rocks in case any white people came by, assailed them unprovoked. Only through elite driving skills was the first driver able to save his vehicle, as a Mad Max-esque troop of hooping crazies abandoned their children to finish him off before he could recover. Through the strength of God and guns, they were thankfully able to fight them off.

Such brave patriots.
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This was a bit cathartic.

QuantumZebra said:
As a lifelong Georgia resident - the majority of us really can't fucking stand the racists

We also think Northerners are more racist in general... my few trips up the east coast seemed to confirm such notions, lol.
People in Boston seem to hate everyone though.
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Your state voted for Trump, FOH.
 
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Murkas

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Guys it wasn't a violent crime, when they were pointing their ""guns"" at babies, they were doing it YugiOh 4Kidz censor style:

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Trojita said:
I hope the families (kids) have healed from this traumatic event.

Do people here not realize Spain is a country in Europe full of white people with the last name Torres?
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Do you know that until recent history, Spain and Italy were seen as the Negros of the Caucasian race due to the Moors of Africa invading these countries?
 
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Fuchsdh

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Two guarantees from racist white people when they're caught: crying and "it's not who I really am!"

They can fucking rot. The victims are much bigger people than I am for forgiving them.
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To be fair, it's a lot easier to forgive someone when they're still getting thrown in prison for years. Lot harder to do so when they escape repercussions.

The Fox article doesn't make it clear—are there other people who are going to be/have been charged or sentenced? I'd say yelling slurs is pretty bad in combination with everything else, but what about the other assholes who were physically pointing guns at kids?
 
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droggg

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Just saw the video from the birthday party for the first time, absolutely disgusting people wow. A child's birthday party?! Glad there was some justice in this case.
 
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Tarydax

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excelsiorlef said:
And read this shit apology



http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/us/georgia-couple-confederate-flags-threats/

We're not like that, we'd never do that, I am sorry that happened to you. Not once actually saying I'm sorry I did that to you. No responsibility taken at all. The apology is all about her and him and not the people they terrorized.

This is oh shit I'm going to jail maybe an apology will save me bullshit. No fucking way with an apology worded like that are they sorry, they're just sorry they got fucking caught.
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Wait, is she saying that she would never do the thing she actually did? Am I reading that right?
 
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Glix

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Fuchsdh said:
To be fair, it's a lot easier to forgive someone when they're still getting thrown in prison for years. Lot harder to do so when they escape repercussions.

The Fox article doesn't make it clear—are there other people who are going to be/have been charged or sentenced? I'd say yelling slurs is pretty bad in combination with everything else, but what about the other assholes who were physically pointing guns at kids?
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Earlier in the thread it was said that they all copped pleas and got 2-4.

These two wanted to go to trial. :)

I'm trying really really hard not to enjoy it and I'm failing.

AND TO ANYONE SAYING ITS TOO HARSH FOR TERROR THREATS - If they were Muslims they would be in Gitmo with no lawyer and no rights.... So, yeah, I'm one hundred percent fucking okay with this.
 
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Mammoth Jones

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Fuchsdh said:
To be fair, it's a lot easier to forgive someone when they're still getting thrown in prison for years. Lot harder to do so when they escape repercussions.

The Fox article doesn't make it clear—are there other people who are going to be/have been charged or sentenced? I'd say yelling slurs is pretty bad in combination with everything else, but what about the other assholes who were physically pointing guns at kids?
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It just gets tired seeing the hatred and disrespect thrown our way nearly constantly and seeing us in the courts and cameras tearfully forgiving. I personally can't stand it. But I get it.

I wouldn't though. I'd have had a shit eating grin as soon as they got sentenced. Fuck those two.

Glix said:
Earlier in the thread it was said that they all copped pleas and got 2-4.

These two wanted to go to trial. :)

I'm trying really really hard not to enjoy it and I'm failing.

AND TO ANYONE SAYING ITS TOO HARSH FOR TERROR THREATS - If they were Muslims they would be in Gitmo with no lawyer and no rights.... So, yeah, I'm one hundred percent fucking okay with this.
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It'd be a national uproar if a convoy flying ISIS flags pointing guns at White folk. There'd be round the clock coverage. Trump would send into the national guard. New laws forbidding Muslims from driving next to other Muslims would be passed, lol.
 
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Zen Aku

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Do they have kids? I feel sorry for their children, but that's as far as my sympathies will go. Maybe this will finally teaches them that racism is bad.
 
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Angelus Errare

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Lifeline said:
Pretty fucked up thing to say. What i feel in that moment is not what i'll feel months or maybe years later. I have always been and will be against large pointless prison sentences.

The parents of the victimized kid forgive the racists during the court proceedings and say they're sorry it came this far.
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They shouldn't have at all. Black people forgiving white people for their racist actions might be the one thing I hate we constantly do. Cause 9 times outta 10 the people involved certainly aren't worth forgiving, and it only furthers convinces folks that they're not responsible for their actions.

Tarydax said:
Wait, is she saying that she would never do the thing she actually did? Am I reading that right?
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Correct.
 
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Slayven

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Angelus Errare said:
They shouldn't have at all. Black people forgiving white people for their racist actions might be the one thing I hate we constantly do. Cause 9 times outta 10 the people involved certainly aren't worth forgiving, and it only furthers convinces folks that they're not responsible for their actions.



Correct.
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We always have to be forgiving ones
 
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