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[JP]

Yeah, but the Switch version has its own rare framerate issues already as it is when docked. Probably adding AA would have killed it.

I understand the reason it doesn't include it, I'm disappointed because it can't do things like that which then reduces the image quality greatly.

 

[Guymelef]

False, I've the Wii U version and since update, on a 10 hours playthrough it just dropped once for me.

Maybe I should record my next play session...

 

[Lylo]

I'm not surprised wiiu is so close.

This is pretty much is just a port.

Exactly. People seem to forget that BotW is just a pretty damn good looking Wii U game ported to Switch, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Nostremitus]

You know, I might order a physical Wii U copy to keep in the plastic.

It'll probably be a good collectors item in ten years...

 

[Belakor]

So far the only noticable difference is the aliasing in Switch version.

 

[-hadouken]

False, I've the Wii U version and since update, on a 10 hours playthrough it just dropped once for me.

List your setup, peeps.

I'm using disc & internal memory for the install - pretty smooth, tho the occasional drop into what feels like low 20s. Not entered a village yet.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Xenoblade X on CEMU runs definitely better than the original version once you have the shader cache. And at 4k.

I still don't know how these shader cache things work. Almosz every game has fps problems for me, despite having a decent PC, i5 6600k and 970.

 

[Lylo]

List your setup, peeps.

I'm using disc & internal memory for the install - pretty smooth, tho the occasional drop into what feels like low 20s. Not entered a village yet.

Wait until you reach

Spoiler

Kakariko Village

or

Spoiler

Zora's Domain

 

[Mohonky]

This is a Wii U game ported over to a totally new architecture, why are people getting their knickers in a knot over the 'port' aspect of the game. It was always going to be a port.

 

[PrimeBeef]

I understand the reason it doesn't include it, I'm disappointed because it can't do things like that which then reduces the image quality greatly.

I'm sure it can do things like that. Just not for this game. They spent less than a year getting it to the Switch. After it was a game solely fleshed out for the WiiU. I'm sure it may also have something to do with pariry between the tao games so there is no large gap.

 

[platina]

I wonder when did they start porting it over to the Switch. Resolution aside they look virtually identical. Which is too bad, would've been nice to see a version of this game with more grass/better grass LOD at least.

Reading this is baffling and makes me sad. How does this game not look noticeably better than on a last gen console? Unacceptable

 

[Jarmel]

Digital Foundry where art thou?

 

[hodgy100]

Reading this is baffling and makes me sad. How does this game not look noticeably better than on a last gen console? Unacceptable

Because the wiiU is powered from the wall is designed as a lower powered console and has a larger form factor. The switch on the other hand is much smaller, so it has to run cooler and its portable so it has to use even less power.

its not complicated. I dont get why a bunch of people are completely oblivious to thermals, power draw and form factor and how that affects performance on an enthusiast gaming forum.

 

[FTF]

So is the WiiU version out? Has anyone seen it in any stores?

 

[JP]

I'm sure it can do things like that. Just not for this game. They spent less than a year getting it to the Switch. After it was a game solely fleshed out for the WiiU. I'm sure it may also have something to do with pariry between the tao games so there is no large gap.

Of course it can handle antialiasing, even if it doesn't in hardware then software solutions would be manageable on something like this.

My issue still stands, it's that Nintendo hasn't built something that supports antialiasing in this game, which in turn reduces the image quality greatly.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Reading this is baffling and makes me sad. How does this game not look noticeably better than on a last gen console? Unacceptable

Because the wiiU is powered from the wall is designed as a lower powered console and has a larger form factor. The switch on the other hand is much smaller, so it has to run cooler and its portable so it has to use even less power.

its not complicated. I dont get why everyone is completely oblivious to thermals, power draw and form factor and how that effects performance on an enthusiast gaming forum.

Pretty much. It's a last gen console game on a next gen portable.

But yeah, I get disappointment from the non-portable gamer who wished we had gotten a next gen Nintendo console because I am one and will just play Zelda on Wii U and may never get a Switch.

So is the WiiU version out? Has anyone seen it in any stores?

Should be. Best Buy still has it online and available for pick up today at all my local stores.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Wait, the game a loading screens? Is that what I'm reading? Did other Zelda games have loading screens and I just don't remember?

 

[Always-honest]

Digital Foundry where art thou?

Probably working real hard, like always.

 

[blankempathy]

So is the WiiU version out? Has anyone seen it in any stores?

Picked up a physical copy at gamestops midnight release. I barely preordered yesterday too.

 

[bigjig]

Eurogamer are streaming the Wii U version if any of you guys want to check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQsIFR039M

 

[hodgy100]

Wait, the game a loading screens? Is that what I'm reading? Did other Zelda games have loading screens and I just don't remember?

yes and no. previous zelda games would usually just fade to black while they loaded stuff, but botw is loading much more data so having an actual loading screen makes sense, can't just hang on black for 10 seconds,

 

[Finale Fireworker]

yes and no. previous zelda games would usually just fade to black while they loaded stuff, but botw is loading much more data so having an actual loading screen makes sense, can't just hang on black for 10 seconds,

Bloodborne had no problem with it at launch. 😎

*high-fived to death*

 

[Twilight Princess]

I have both versions preordered, will report back when they get here.

 

[Revolutionary]

I've played like 6 hours of the Wii U version and for the most part it's fine but so far the two towns I've found run like shiiittttttt. Thankfully I'm not doing any fighting in the towns but Jeez. It's seriously like 15fps average in

Spoiler

Kakariko Village

 

[Inspectah_Deck]

Wait, the game a loading screens? Is that what I'm reading? Did other Zelda games have loading screens and I just don't remember?

It only has an initial loading screen and when you fast travel.
Not during normal gameplay.

 

[hodgy100]

It only has an initial loading screen and when you fast travel.
Not during normal gameplay.

when you enter / exit shrines as well

 

[Finale Fireworker]

It only has an initial loading screen and when you fast travel.
Not during normal gameplay.

And when entering shrines, is that right?

when you enter / exit shrines as well

Right, okay.

 

[Inspectah_Deck]

when you enter / exit shrines as well

Yeah you are right.

 

[Snookie]

Is this now the switch buyers remorse thread?

 

[tapedeck]

The Wii U version is 720p, which is a perfect divisor of 2160p, so it'll scale better on a 4K screen than the 900p version.

Yeah.

I'll be playing the Wii U version on a 65" 4K set..I really hope this is true.

 

[Freeman76]

I have a wierd issue with this on Wii U. The game looks really blurred on my TV. On the gamepad its fine. All the homescreen menus are fine on my tv too. Looks really Low Res?

 

[FTF]

Should be. Best Buy still has it online and available for pick up today at all my local stores.

Picked up a physical copy at gamestops midnight release. I barely preordered yesterday too.

Awesome, thanks!

 

[HIGH DEF JEFF]

Hope the power that be don't mind a cross post from a different thread. I am about to leave work and go hunting and want to know if this is possible:


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231405167&postcount=2196

Wife is trying to talk me out of the Switch...but I don't want the hassle of juggling shit around on the Wii U to free up enough space for the game/patch.

I really just need to offload crap like the Wii version of Metroid Trilogy and I will have enough space..I don't want to waste an entire external drive or look for one of those Y adapters just for that. I am reading that I can just use a USB thumb drive or an SD card to move games (not play them on)...is this true? That's a crazy good option that I didn't know existed.


-EDIT-
Also..in the case of a USB stick I assume it needs to be USB 3.0?

 

[RedFox85]

Hope the power that be don't mind a cross post from a different thread. I am about to leave work and go hunting and want to know if this is possible:


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231405167&postcount=2196

I use one on mine, they say maybe not to but I'm pretty sure I bought one that was specifically recommended for Wii U use.

 

[Twilight Princess]

Hope the power that be don't mind a cross post from a different thread. I am about to leave work and go hunting and want to know if this is possible:


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231405167&postcount=2196

Buy switch, tell wife this will improve your quality of life.

 

[SatoAilDarko]

Hope the power that be don't mind a cross post from a different thread. I am about to leave work and go hunting and want to know if this is possible:


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231405167&postcount=2196

I use one on mine, they say maybe not to but I'm pretty sure I bought one that was specifically recommended for Wii U use.

Yup. I think several people use one.

I know Dan Ryckert of Giant Bomb who usually reviews the Nintendo stuff has used a jump drive for the Wii U for years.

 

[FunkyDealer]

Any recorded difference in loadtimes between SD card and game-card yet?

 

[HIGH DEF JEFF]

Buy switch, tell wife this will improve your quality of life.

It's my call, ultimately and I know if I see one at Target or wherever I will probably just buy it..but reading about how I can just throw a 32gig thumb into the Wii U to save/backup/get rid of the stuff I never play is interesting.

 

[Twilight Princess]

I've played like 6 hours of the Wii U version and for the most part it's fine but so far the two towns I've found run like shiiittttttt. Thankfully I'm not doing any fighting in the towns but Jeez. It's seriously like 15fps average in

Spoiler

Kakariko Village

The moment i get my switch, i'll run to a town to see how the framerate fares.

 

[AmyS]

Eurogamer streaming Zelda Wii U gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQsIFR039M

 

[wandering goat]

I got up early and bought the Wii U version, though they were also selling Switches if I had wanted one. Hopefully the right choice was made - took a day off of work to play, first time I did that since taking a day off school for Ocarina of Time.

 

[Revolutionary]

The moment i get my switch, i'll run to a town to see how the framerate fares.

Don't rush it man, enjoy the game. It's wonderful. The main quests leads you to the village I mentioned anyways.

 

[The Rain King]

Phew. Glad it looks close. I was seriously considering getting a Switch for this after it turned out to be the GOTF.

 

[sixteen-bit]

looking forward to the DF analysis. They're always thorough.

 

[dyergram]

I maybe should of turned on my wiiu yesterday:
https://imgur.com/a/hkVcc

 

[Jeffrey]

Honestly wish the switch had a lower res high performance option.

I've not seen a game chug this bad running around in grass in ages. Let alone from nintendo.

 

[RoadHazard]

Reading this is baffling and makes me sad. How does this game not look noticeably better than on a last gen console? Unacceptable

Because the Switch is a handheld console...?

Honestly wish the switch had a lower res high performance option.

I've not seen a game chug this bad running around in grass in ages. Let alone from nintendo.

So the Switch version is shit performance-wise too? Well, great.

 

[dragonbane]

No, Wii U is definitely the inferior in any way possible to compare.

Not in load times vs. game card Also it never entirely locked up on me

This is false. Wii U has USB 2.0 so max transfer rate is 60MB/s (in reality more like 45-50MB/s). There'll be no difference between quality 5400RPM HDD/7200RPM HDD and SSD.

Well it was measured and proven so you are wrong: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=942130

In this instance a SSD saved a whopping 3 seconds over NAND while HDD was the same. Maybe the NAND is even slower? Would not look good for the Switch game cards of course

List your setup, peeps.

I'm using disc & internal memory for the install - pretty smooth, tho the occasional drop into what feels like low 20s. Not entered a village yet.

This is very interesting. Please test it. I'm wondering if this might be a GTA V situation where the game is optimized for simultaneousness streaming from disc and NAND and actually performs better than a full install

They were? Seems like most people expected exactly what happened to happen.

After the comparison with the E3 footage surfaced people expected better textures, draw distance and so on yes

 

[JeremyEtcetera]

So the real answer for a definitive edition seems to be Wii U version + Wii U emulator.

16xAA and AF, 60fps, etc

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Because the wiiU is powered from the wall is designed as a lower powered console and has a larger form factor. The switch on the other hand is much smaller, so it has to run cooler and its portable so it has to use even less power.

its not complicated. I dont get why a bunch of people are completely oblivious to thermals, power draw and form factor and how that affects performance on an enthusiast gaming forum.

Eh, tbh it doesn't look significantly better or perform much better because Nintendo didn't put in the effort to optimize and improve it. The Switch in handheld mode is stronger than the WiiU and in docked mode it's got more tha double the GPU power. The CPU is better than the WiiUs by a good degree. I dont really see why the game is not stable 30 1080p in docked mode frankly.