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[Peterthumpa]

I can't comprehend why, just fucking why Nintendo isn't capable of at least applying some post processing AA method to most of their games. You would think that by using Nvidia hardware they would actually give a small fuck, but no. How hard can it be to add post AA support to the damn engine?

 

[Derkon]

I've played it for roughly ~3 hours now on the Switch, and I've run across one of these: https://youtu.be/ALdZyIGxux0?t=204

Tons of stuttering too. It's really baffling now seeing as it shouldn't really be pushing the Switch to its limits? Blegh.

Wow yeah, thanks for this. I feel better about sticking with my gut and just getting it on my Wii U and saving the $300+tax.

 

[dragonbane]

I can't comprehend why, just fucking why Nintendo isn't capable of at least applying some post processing AA method to most of their games. You would think that by using Nvidia hardware they would actually give a small fuck, but no. How hard can it be to add post AA support to the damn engine?

When we are 90 and old Zelda will still won't have any AA solution. Fortunately for Nintendo they might render at 8K at that point so it's a non issue. They will probably sit this weird AA thing out entirely. It's tradition!

 

[ponpo]

Main difference visually seems to be resolution and anti-aliasing. The Wii U version looks like it has practically no AA, whereas on Switch there's clearly at least some sort of post-process AA happening in addition to the resolution bump.

A good example of this is the torches/lantern things behind Link in what I assume is the starting area.

Switch

Wii U

Less offensive in motion

https://my.mixtape.moe/nghwlj.webm

 

[flipswitch]

To be fair, 900p isn't great for image quality to begin with, and it's possible that the AA solution breaks down in some situations. Based on the videos I've seen though, it looks a lot more shimmery and jaggie on Wii U.

How does it look in handheld mode (720p)?

Oh it's 900p? Thought it was 1080p. It's actually quite sharp in portable mode but I guess that's because of the screen, but still looks like no AA/AF.

 

[SatoAilDarko]

I've played it for roughly ~3 hours now on the Switch, and I've run across one of these: https://youtu.be/ALdZyIGxux0?t=204

Tons of stuttering too. It's really baffling now seeing as it shouldn't really be pushing the Switch to its limits? Blegh.

Is it bad that makes me feel even better getting the Wii U version?

If even the Switch version has major stuttering like that even if the Wii U version surely has it much more frequent and worse it isn't like I won't have to deal with framerate issues if I got it on Switch.

 

[silva1991]

months ago there was the same comparison and the log textures were pretty bad on the WiiU version.

Looks like they fixed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYofouY9smw

 

[dragonbane]

months ago there was the same comparison and the log textures were pretty bad on the WiiU version.

Looks like they fixed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYofouY9smw

We almost had log gate over this stupid comparison lol. Wii U had better looking grass though!

 

[enigmatic_alex44]

Considering this is a Wii U game at heart, it's impressive that it looks better than anything on the PS3 or 360.

 

[russtc3]

Considering this is a Wii U game at heart, it's impressive that it looks better than anything on the PS3 or 360.

Is this a real comment?

I think it looks ok and that's about it. It looks dated which is a turn off for a launch game. Yes I know that for a game like this art style is where it's at, but I'm not all that impressed with the color scheme and that's hard to overcome in my eyes.

I want to be immersed in the world, but the lower level of graphics and color scheme are hard to overcome.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Considering this is a Wii U game at heart, it's impressive that it looks better than anything on the PS3 or 360.

Did you just go there?

 

[Get_craycray]

Considering this is a Wii U game at heart, it's impressive that it looks better than anything on the PS3 or 360.

enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
(Today, 07:24 AM)

LOL.

 

[M_A_C]

Wow, considering this is the only Switch game I care about and had preordered, it's making me want to wait on the Switch and just get this for my Wii U for now.

I mean, besides a few jaggies, they are nearly identical. I was expecting more LoD differences or lighting or something.

 

[Yoshi]

Can the game perform better on Wii U if played in Off-TV-mode or does the game still render the game at 720p then?

 

[dragonbane]

Can the game perform better on Wii U if played in Off-TV-mode or does the game still render the game at 720p then?

Some people including me THINK its running a bit better. This might be entirely wrong so I will write some homebrew to confirm/debunk this tomorrow

 

[balgajo]

months ago there was the same comparison and the log textures were pretty bad on the WiiU version.

Looks like they fixed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYofouY9smw

That's probably what caused the bad framerate. I don't remember Plateau with major drops on E3 like today.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Pre-release, people were swearing up and down that the Switch version was to be 'technically superior in every way'. Seems like that was pretty overblown.

Seems like it doesn't matter one bit what device you play this game on, really. Both look fine.

 

[RoadHazard]

Identical except for resolution and framerate, as expected.

Pre-release, people were swearing up and down that the Switch version was to be 'technically superior in every way'. Seems like that was pretty overblown.

Seems like it doesn't matter one bit what device you play this game on, really. Both look fine.

They were? Seems like most people expected exactly what happened to happen.

 

[hodgy100]

From what I've played if the wiiu version so far there is some pretty bad frame dips near the start when you exit the shrine of ressurection and look across the world. And if you fill the screen with alpha textures ( like getting the trees right up in the camera) you to feels like it dips to 20fps. But other than those specific instances it's been fine.

 

[encephalon]

So, surprise, cards are not faster than discs?

 

[sazzy]

I feel like the game is running surprisingly well on the Wii U. I was actually expecting worse.

Played a bit on TV and a couple of hours on the gamepad.

 

[blame space]

i feel like i just wasted $400

 

[sirap]

I feel like the game is running surprisingly well on the Wii U. I was actually expecting worse.

Played a bit on TV and a couple of hours on the gamepad.

Wait until you reach tropical biomes and late-game towns. That's when the real D̶a̶r̶k̶ ̶S̶o̶u̶l̶s̶ Zelda starts

 

[Jonneh3003]

i feel like i just wasted $400

On a super powered handheld?

 

[KingSnake]

Looks like the Wii U version is pretty decent. The main visible difference is the fact that the aliasing is more pronounced on Wii U due to lower resolution, but neither versions seem to have AA applied.

And I guess some differences might be in the framerate, but that should be clarified by DF.

 

[b00_thegh0st]

So, surprise, cards are not faster than discs?

Disc data installed on eMMC certainly seem to load faster than from the Switch cartridges. Disc vs. card is another story though.

 

[Opa-Pa]

Are towns slow motion on Switch too? That and some specific areas/combat have been driving me crazy in terms of framerate on Wii U lol. Performance is pretty disappointing.

 

[scitek]

The Wii U version is 720p, which is a perfect divisor of 2160p, so it'll scale better on a 4K screen than the 900p version.

Yeah.

 

[Chaos17]

Which is basically what Aonuma etc. has been saying for weeks. They opted to not make any significant differences between the versions to ensure parity

this

 

[Stiflers Mom]

i feel like i just wasted $400

But you get to play the game on a brand new nice and shiny console with lots of awesome Nintendo games in its future...

 

[Big_Al]

Disc data installed on eMMC certainly seem to load faster than from the Switch cartridges. Disc vs. card is another story though.

I'd like to see the difference between digital Wii U and digital Switch versions installed to their own internal memories as well.

 

[cyberheater]

So as I thought they look identical apart from resolution. I'll be getting the WiiU version.

 

[Discokuningas]

Why are most dismissing the possible frame rate difference? I mean that should be like the most important thing.

 

[RoadHazard]

So as I thought they look identical apart from resolution. I'll be getting the WiiU version.

If you don't include framerate in how the game "looks", sure. If you have the option of buying either I don't know why you would ever go with the Wii U version. It seems to perform really terribly in many instances.

 

[spekkeh]

Pre-release, people were swearing up and down that the Switch version was to be 'technically superior in every way'. Seems like that was pretty overblown.

Seems like it doesn't matter one bit what device you play this game on, really. Both look fine.

In the way it looks yeah, but I've heard people who play the Wii U version comment that they actually actively avoid the towns because of how awfully the game chugs along there. Admittedly these were probably playing a pirated copy so I don't know how the patched retail version fares. Given that the reviewers don't mention awful frame rates in towns though I'm assuming the switch version is comparatively much better optimized here.

 

[LordKano]

Main difference is framerate. It runs way worse on Wii U.
When you enter a village on Wii U, the console is almost dying, while it's fine on Switch.

 

[Guymelef]

Resolution and framerate apart they look identical, even same low textures and AF.
Can't believe this isn't 1080p on Switch.

 

[Deleted member 465307]

I suppose it's for the best that this game has graphics parity between the two consoles.

I wonder if this game on Switch is suffering in any way from being a port or if it's running as well as it would if the game had been built from the ground-up for the system. I.e. is this the limit of the system's performance for open-world games?

It's really interesting to read about the town framerate issues. I suppose that makes me happy I'll be playing the Switch version.

 

[Skyzard]

There's a gif in some dungeon on the Switch version where the game crawls to halt fps wise (not for as long as JC3 on PS4) but for a few seconds stuttering - does that happen with the WiiU version too? Someone mentioned it might be a memory leak.

Can the game perform better on Wii U if played in Off-TV-mode or does the game still render the game at 720p then?

I was wondering if this was the case, I asked my buddy yesterday and he said no, it's the same - it's just more apparent when you play on a TV. :S

Obviously just an anecdote, will have to wait for DF hopefully to cover that, but he's pretty good with framerate stuff.

IQ should look pretty good on the gamepad I imagine.

It does! The low detail in the distance doesn't stand out on the gamepad. Blends in well. It looks really good.

Main difference is framerate. It runs way worse on Wii U.
When you enter a village on Wii U, the console is almost dying, while it's fine on Switch.

Which village? Any? Will be simple to check the disc version and digital version - in case those impressions are from people running from USB or SD.

 

[KingSnake]

Why are most dismissing the possible frame rate difference? I mean that should be like the most important thing.

If you don't include framerate in how the game "looks", sure. If you have the option of buying either I don't know why you would ever go with the Wii U version. It seems to perform really terribly in many instances.

Main difference is framerate. It runs way worse on Wii U.
When you enter a village on Wii U, the console is almost dying, while it's fine on Switch.

Framerate will be discussed a lot once a proper framerate analysis will exists (DF).

 

[LordKano]

Framerate will be discussed a lot once a proper framerate analysis will exists (DF).

You don't need a framerate analysis to see when a game go into the single digits at some point lol.

 

[KingSnake]

You don't need a framerate analysis to see when a game go into the single digits at some point lol.

Do you have the game on Wii U?

 

[GhostTrick]

Do you have the game on Wii U?

I do. Single digits sounds fuckin hyperbole. But framerate is harsh at times, especially in villages. Must drop down to the 15s.

 

[Chaos17]

I will still get a Switch because I would be happy to play when I'm in the train.

 

[Celine]

Main difference is framerate. It runs way worse on Wii U.
When you enter a village on Wii U, the console is almost dying, while it's fine on Switch.

I'm leaning more toward the Switch version because of it.
The resolution bump is nice but it's the more robust framerate what really interest me because it improve greatly the experience.

I suppose it's for the best that this game has graphics parity between the two consoles. It's Twilight Princess all over again from the visual perspective (which I think exclusively offered 480p, IIRC).

The resolution between TP Wii and GC is the same, the Wii version though has progressive scan and a mirrored world.
So it's not the same case this time around.

 

[Risk Breaker]

Considering they look identical, I guess CEMU will eventually be the definitive version.

 

[ShadowFox08]

I hope we see a head to head comparison of wii u vs switch handheld version vs switch docked version

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Main difference is framerate. It runs way worse on Wii U.
When you enter a village on Wii U, the console is almost dying, while it's fine on Switch.

Genuine question, have you seen village sections running on both platforms?

I feel like the only framerate comparisons I hear about are from the Great Plateau.

 

[Chinbo37]

The resolution between TP Wii and GC is the same, the Wii version though has progressive scan and a mirrored world.
So it's not the same case this time around.

The Gamecube version absolutely had progressive scan (you needed the component cables).

 

[M_A_C]

Didn't the newest patch today fix framerate on both versions?