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pigeon

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How would he be a transplant with no scar on his head? All the victims wore hats/wigs to cover theirs up.

He wasn't a transplant. He was an Asian guy looking to put his brain into a young black man for the same reason as his white friends. I don't get why people think he's another victim.

It's probably relevant that I'm Asian-American. But I agree that the preponderance of the evidence, from the responses I got, are that he's a buyer.
 

robotrock

Banned
I've recommended this movie to just about all of my friends and every time someone actually goes and watches it, I get a lot of text messages from them saying "holy shit" at a lot of the small things. I always learn something from them, but the one I got today made me do an Xbox 360 because when you see it you do a 360 and walk away.

It's the conversation in the beginning between Chris and Rose's dad, talking about why they have still hired the caretakers. Maybe we're getting the quote wrong, but Rose's dad says something like "We hired them to take care of my parents, and when they passed away we couldn't let them go"


idk guys this movie is amazing
 
You thought Chris was smart?

Can't relate

I assume this is sarcasm.

In a real life situation you don't just up and bounce. But he was quite aware of how awkward things were, and proceeded with caution and his defenses up. The moment he confirmed that shit was actually fucked up here, he was trying to leave, but unfortunately it was already too late.

It's not like he realized shit was fucked, and then decided "hey, I'm gonna go take a shower, smoke a blunt and then take a nap in the basement".
He made a play to get the fuck out. He just realized too late that he had been played from the start. I think most of the audience did to be honest.

I swear most of us thought she must have been hypnotized too. This movie was too good. I really need to go watch it again.
 

creatchee

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Yo the cotton in the ears was genius.

Yes you can say he's stupid for not just running away after all the weird stuff that was going on in the house but he loved Rose and didn't want to hurt her.

The cotton was genius for sure, but I'm still trying to figure out how he actually got it into his ears, since his arms were strapped down to the chair.
 

Talka

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The cotton was genius for sure, but I'm still trying to figure out how he actually got it into his ears, since his arms were strapped down to the chair.

They showed he was able to bring his head to his hands. (When he tried to dislodge the buckles with his teeth).
 

pigeon

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What do you make of the old Asian guy? Was he a legitimate old Asian dude, or a brain transplant recipient?

I still don't really understand why all the old fogies targeted young black guys. It makes sense for the sake of the movie's allegory, but if you could swap your mind into a younger body I don't really understand why you would want your brain to go into the body of a disadvantaged minority.

They're actually quite clear on that, just not explicit. Remember that his grandfather was a runner and lost out to Jesse Owens.

Obviously losing to Owens is redolent in itself, but it's very specific that after the pinnacle moment of a black athlete showing he's superior to the best the white supremacists have to offer, Grandpa then concludes that black people have genetic advantages and the only way to compete is to steal their bodies. White bodies just wouldn't offer the same genetic benefits. (Daddy Armitage's speech about Owens is very double-edged in light of what happens later.)

Note that this also takes aim at one of the key contradictions of the white supremacist philosophy -- they may talk about genetic superiority, but their actual behavior reveals that they're actually driven by the fear of genetic inferiority. Black people are stronger and faster, Asian people are smarter, and if allowed to mix freely the other races will simply dominate and eliminate the white race purely through peaceful natural selection. It's key to their mindset.
 

oc

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I've recommended this movie to just about all of my friends and every time someone actually goes and watches it, I get a lot of text messages from them saying "holy shit" at a lot of the small things. I always learn something from them, but the one I got today made me do an Xbox 360 because when you see it you do a 360 and walk away.

It's the conversation in the beginning between Chris and Rose's dad, talking about why they have still hired the caretakers. Maybe we're getting the quote wrong, but Rose's dad says something like "We hired them to take care of my parents, and when they passed away we couldn't let them go"


idk guys this movie is amazing

Also a few other lines such as:

"My mother loved her kitchen, so we keep a piece of her in here." right when the dad introduces Chris to the maid/grandma.

"Turns out people up here are just as messed up in the head as they are in the city" when talking about the mom being a psychiatrist.

"Some people don't want strangers messing around in their heads" Rose says this when they're at the table just after the tour.
 

border

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They showed he was able to bring his head to his hands. (When he tried to dislodge the buckles with his teeth).

Yeah I was a little unclear on that. If you sit in a chair with armrests, there's really no way you should be able to lower your head down to your wrists.
 

Talka

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Yeah I was a little unclear on that. If you sit in a chair with armrests, there's really no way you should be able to lower your head down to your wrists.

I'm sitting in an armchair and you totally can get your head to your wrists super easily.
 

PAULINK

I microwave steaks.
This movie was almost as good as everyone said it was, just had a hard time visualizing the sunken place, the way that the movie was showing it. And when he started beating up the bad dudes, seems like it went way too fast. Wish there was at least some dialog to give it more closure. But otherwise solid movie.
 

jwk94

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Honestly, I thought the mom made her forget each of her boyfriends after they did whatever with her. It wasn't until she revealed she was in on it did everything start making sense.
 
This movie was so good. The small hints and details are amazing, nothing much else to say that hasn't been already, the social commentary is so relateable lmao
 

PAULINK

I microwave steaks.
Oh, another thing that bugged the shit out of me was how they showed the deer running past the car. From what I remember, it looked like the camera angle was inside the car facing the front, and it looked as if a moving object flew through the driver and passenger windows. not a great job with the cg there.
 

amaretto

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I've recommended this movie to just about all of my friends and every time someone actually goes and watches it, I get a lot of text messages from them saying "holy shit" at a lot of the small things. I always learn something from them, but the one I got today made me do an Xbox 360 because when you see it you do a 360 and walk away.

It's the conversation in the beginning between Chris and Rose's dad, talking about why they have still hired the caretakers. Maybe we're getting the quote wrong, but Rose's dad says something like "We hired them to take care of my parents, and when they passed away we couldn't let them go"


idk guys this movie is amazing
Yea this has one of the sharpest screenplays in a long time. Really hope it gets a Halloween re-release to keep it in conversation for awards season. 100% deserves recognition.
 
Loved this movie, but I need to see it with a bigger audience. Saw in a matinee and I think there were 5 people in the whole theatre.

I just realized that Rose doesn't want him to show the cop his ID because she didn't want the cops to have a record of his whereabouts.

Also after the deer I was worried there would cheap jump scares with loud noises but thankfully there were very few, and when used they were well done. Like the maid walking past in the background at night was accompanied by a loud music jump but she was legit creepy and the follow up scares with the gardener and then her creepily looking at herself in the reflection of the window all served a purpose.
 

Choomp

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I saw this the other night, I probably have heard too much about it, cause I kind of put together what was happening about halfway through. It was still good though, some really great editing and sound design. Also, this movie made me realize there's nothing better than seeing a movie with a fun audience. Packed crowd that went crazy at everything.
 

KoopaTheCasual

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This movie was almost as good as everyone said it was, just had a hard time visualizing the sunken place, the way that the movie was showing it. And when he started beating up the bad dudes, seems like it went way too fast. Wish there was at least some dialog to give it more closure. But otherwise solid movie.
Agreed. Felt a bit "Django" with how quick the finale went by, and would love a more dedicated escape/revenge section, but still very solid and competent from top to bottom.
 

Mega

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If the other black characters are just transplanted family members, why do they all behave so fucking weird? Why do they have such strange affectations and a peculiar manner of speech? Why is grandpa sprinting across the field in the middle of the night, looking like the T-1000? I know old folks can be somewhat out of touch, but the housemaid and groundskeeper are beyond autistic.

The film tries to hold your interest in the first half by giving them all such peculiar behavior, so that you think they might be robots or brainwashed hypnosis victims. But in retrospect none of their behavior makes any sense. Everything they do is conspicuous for no apparent reason.

I mentioned Get Out reminding me a little of The Curious Case of Charles Dexter Ward by H.P. Lovecraft. Man from early 1900s is murdered and replaced by lookalike necromancer ancestor from late 1600s, speech and mannerisms weird everyone out enough to draw suspicion and have him committed to an asylum. An 80-100 year old white person's brain inside the body of a young black person... I can see them coming off as weird especially in an imperfect procedure we're shown to have serious quirks. Andre didn't do anything particularly bizarre outside the camera flash freakout, and he still came off as really strange compared to his opening scene.

It makes sense for him to be sprinting. It makes less sense for him to be running in the middle of the night. Even less so for him to sprint right by the protagonist without even acknowledging the presence of another human.

It's just an unexplained red herring. If they believe it will be impossible for anyone to escape their estate, why bother with the whole charade? I guess the brother's capture technique kinda begs that question anyway.

Some people exercise at night, including going out on runs late at night or very early AM when it's still dark. The sprint at Chris was dual meaning. Before the surgery reveal: hypnotized lunatic mechanically going through a bizarre routine in the middle of the night. After: it's grandpa doing his sprint exercises, sees Chris, tries to scare the shit out of him with his speed and precision. It's the latter for sure, as he even fake apologizes with a sinister undertone the next day. Assuming he was a mindless drone, the admission of the deliberateness of his actions threw me off before I learned it was the grandpa.

The sister has a delicate drawn-out process for high quality brain transfer surgeries. The brother's kidnap method is quick and messy, more prone to failure. My guess is his are for emergency procedures at the request of clients on death's doorstep. There's also an opposing message behind their methods: hers is playing the white liberal/moderate who lures in victims by gaining their trust but really uses them for her own ends; his is the helmeted Klan/Neo-Nazi out terrorizing victims with his white chariot/car.

Yeah I was a little unclear on that. If you sit in a chair with armrests, there's really no way you should be able to lower your head down to your wrists.

I'm sitting in a chair with armrests and I can do this easily despite having terrible flexibility.

If four white adults went missing, not much of anything would happen. The national press really only pays attention to missing people unless there's some kind of sexy or salacious angle (Chandra Levy, Natalee Holloway).

That said, it's not out of the question to think Chris is targeted specifically because he doesn't seem to have any blood ties. Mother deceased, father missing, no known siblings. If he goes missing there's nobody that is really going to come looking for him.

What? One could make a nice list of all the cases where an attractive white person goes missing and it becomes national news vs the comparatively little attention when it's a POC. This has been talked about by news media reflecting on itself and criticizing itself on what it chooses to cover. It's even made its way into comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKJ2z7mecQ

I'm not trying to purposely single you out, but you seem highly critical of the film based wholly on things you didn't understand or pick up on.

I think it was poking fun at the whole "model minority" bullshit. Asian guy wanting to follow his white friends.

Model minority and the wealthy clients of this operation are international (man from Asian, woman with Euro accent).
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
Damn just got out of the showing and no kidding that last scene had me shook. That cop car just made me think it's about to be GG for Chris :(. Glad they went with the swerve and Rod came out instead. TSA gets shit done lol.

Also reading everyone's theater experience and damn I may have to watch this again on a weekend night in a hopefully crowded theater. Watched on matinee with like 10 people in the theater.
 
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his eye's are always closed to make sure he doesn't see flashes
 

Lan Dong Mik

And why would I want them?
This was incredible. Just reading through this thread has opened my eyes to so much shit I missed. I need to see it again.

Man, thinking about that one scene where it's Grandpa going up to the guests cars and greeting them is chilling as fuck in Retrospect. That scene had me scratching my head because the people seemed so happy to be meeting him and I was like wtf is going on here lol
 

brinstar

Member
This was incredible. Just reading through this thread has opened my eyes to so much shit I missed. I need to see it again.

Man, thinking about that one scene where it's Grandpa going up to the guests cars and greeting them is chilling as fuck in Retrospect. That scene had me scratching my head because the people seemed so happy to be meeting him and I was like wtf is going on here lol

There's also a shot of Logan/Andre showing off and twirling in front of the guests I missed the first time.

Showing off his new body like a new coat :(
 

FTF

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Just got back and that was really, really good! So many layers and so well done. Excellent job Peele and can't wait to see it again so I can watch the early scenes without Rose colored glasses.
 

Guevara

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So, I really enjoyed that. It accomplishes an impressive trick: everything in the movie matters, yet there's still some room for interpretation.

THEORY:

"The sunken place" represents the bottom of a slave ship. The imagery makes it look as if they are literally under water, the small area they can see looks like a TV screen sure, but it also looks like a hatch or a port (which can be closed).

These characters are literally just 'passengers', as Grandpa Armitage points out, and they 'sink to the floor' (Sink as in, boat. Floor as in, floor of the ship where slaves were kept). The accompanying music (the haunting Sikiliza Kwa Wahenga) is Swahili, because again it's a reference to the African enslavement. African, rather than African-American.

Oh and; how is Chris controlled? A tea cup: which can be a symbol of 1600s imperial trade.
 
Oh, another thing that bugged the shit out of me was how they showed the deer running past the car. From what I remember, it looked like the camera angle was inside the car facing the front, and it looked as if a moving object flew through the driver and passenger windows. not a great job with the cg there.
? The deer jumped across the windshield - it wasn't running, it was jumping. Just rewatched it in the trailer.
 

Sanjuro

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Just saw the film. The hype may have dampered it for me, but the film is rock solid all around. Really enjoyed how all of the small things tie together in the grand scheme.

Need this to come out on demand soon.
 

border

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There was a great interview with Jordan Peele on NPR's Fresh Air today. I didn't realize that the first scene in the movie was meant to reference Trayvon Martin. I just took it as the standard horror movie trope of "We have to show someone being killed within the first couple minutes to set up the rest of the movie." Brilliant how they worked that into the film.

Terry Gross does a good job of avoiding spoilers in her interview, but I can't help but imagine how much better it might have been if they were willing to spoil the movie.
 

border

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What? One could make a nice list of all the cases where an attractive white person goes missing and it becomes national news vs the comparatively little attention when it's a POC. This has been talked about by news media reflecting on itself and criticizing itself on what it chooses to cover. It's even made its way into comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKJ2z7mecQ

I'm not trying to purposely single you out, but you seem highly critical of the film based wholly on things you didn't understand or pick up on.

My impression is that by and large, most Missing Persons cases don't make national news one way or the other. There's hundreds if not thousands of missing people every year, and we don't hear about them at all regardless of their race, gender, or social status. I get the sense that Chris was profiled in part because of his race, but more because he lacks any kind of tight social connection that would engender an extended manhunt or search party.

If I seem critical of the film, it's really only because I liked it. I don't really seek to engage with movies that I deem mediocre.
 
Can I just say how good some of those red herrings were?

My favorite had to be when Rose is talking to her dad about the family picnic and she remarks on how it feels like it's on a different day every year. After I heard that, I definitely thought Rose was being brainwashed too.
 
There was a great interview with Jordan Peele on NPR's Fresh Air today. I didn't realize that the first scene in the movie was meant to reference Trayvon Martin. I just took it as the standard horror movie trope of "We have to show someone being killed within the first couple minutes to set up the rest of the movie." Brilliant how they worked that into the film.

Terry Gross does a good job of avoiding spoilers in her interview, but I can't help but imagine how much better it might have been if they were willing to spoil the movie.

This isn't an original thought (someone from slashfilm noted it) but even the beginning with Drew has nuance to it. In many horror movies, the opening murder has a lot of "oh shit, don't do that! no no no, you idiot!" moments. But for a black man living in the US, he immediately (and I think literally IIRC) says "Nope, not today" and tries to escape.

It's an interesting and subtle statement on privilege, in a way.
 

border

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This isn't an original thought (someone from slashfilm noted it) but even the beginning with Drew has nuance to it. In many horror movies, the opening murder has a lot of "oh shit, don't do that! no no no, you idiot!" moments. But for a black man living in the US, he immediately (and I think literally IIRC) says "Nope, not today" and tries to escape.

It's an interesting and subtle statement on privilege, in a way.

In the Fresh Air interview, Peele specifically mentions being inspired by an old Eddie Murphy routine, the premise of which is that "Horror movies wouldn't happen if they starred black characters." Essentially put, most black people would cut and run at the very first sign of supernatural trouble.....whereas whites are more apt to stick around and investigate.
 

LionPride

Banned
This isn't an original thought (someone from slashfilm noted it) but even the beginning with Drew has nuance to it. In many horror movies, the opening murder has a lot of "oh shit, don't do that! no no no, you idiot!" moments. But for a black man living in the US, he immediately (and I think literally IIRC) says "Nope, not today" and tries to escape.

It's an interesting and subtle statement on privilege, in a way.

Yo Andre immediately said nope and walked the other way, I was tense as hell but I was laughing in my head.
 

j-wood

Member
Just got out from seeing this. What an incredible fucking movie. I did not see many of the twists coming (the girlfriend being in on it, the whole transplant thing, thought it was just hypnotize)
 
Saw it last night. That was one of the most cathartic endings to a movie I've ever seen. When Chris not only overpowers but out-thinks that stupid weasel fuck brother and just started to stamp his head in I was cheering. When he immediately smashes the teacup before the mother can get to it. Ramming the deer antlers into the fathers stomach and leaving him there to burn. When Rose gets shot point blank in the stomach. This movie has some of the most despicable villains I've ever seen in a film and to see them all get fucked was just joyous. And then! CHRIS ACTUALLY GOT OUT! YES!
 

jon bones

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The Ringer Channel 33 Podcast interview w/ Jordan Peele is really great - everyone should listen to it!
 

tomtom94

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Went to see it last night. Had the misfortune of having a crowd that were not quite in sync with me - they were laughing uproariously at tiny little jokes and especially during the climax.

It's really good. The plot is insidious and it deliberately lets you think you've figured it out so it can pull the rug underneath you. I thought the blind art dealer was a great idea and it's really great to see a film with many layers that people are finding new things in it each and every time - I love how the script has so much in it that you *know* will be important later and you're waiting to find out how.

Problems:
- scare chords are great... in moderation. There were a couple of moments that became startle-scares when they could have just been, you know, scares.
- the audience groaned a little when Rose turned out to still be alive. Whether that was due to the many scare chords in the ending or the fact she was the third time in about five minutes a family member had done that I'm not sure.
- lack of dialogue in the revenge was a bit of a waste.
 

R-User!

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So, I really enjoyed that. It accomplishes an impressive trick: everything in the movie matters, yet there's still some room for interpretation.

THEORY:

"The sunken place" represents the bottom of a slave ship. The imagery makes it look as if they are literally under water, the small area they can see looks like a TV screen sure, but it also looks like a hatch or a port (which can be closed).

These characters are literally just 'passengers', as Grandpa Armitage points out, and they 'sink to the floor' (Sink as in, boat. Floor as in, floor of the ship where slaves were kept). The accompanying music (the haunting Sikiliza Kwa Wahenga) is Swahili, because again it's a reference to the African enslavement. African, rather than African-American.

Oh and; how is Chris controlled? A tea cup: which can be a symbol of 1600s imperial trade.

Got some symbolism ideas for the instruments/methods of death of each person?

Croquet Ball/Polo Ball? = Old Game?
--then death by foot stomp (what kind of shoes was Chris wearing?)

Deer = Hunted like an Animal/Treated as a lesser?
---I loved that he died by the same thing that he said that wanted to have less of in this world. and the deer head was perhaps a device to look at Chris and see when he wakes up and to turn on the TV program?

Knife/Letter opener?? = ?
---she died by the knife right?

Rifle = Old-fashioned fire arm?

It's late, but your theory made me remember that I was thinking about the symbolism for each method of death.

I need to see this movie again. It's so good.
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I'm really nitpicking here because the overall effort was brilliant, but the brain-switching lab felt so out-of-place hokey to me. I admit that this plot demanded that you had to see these elements at some point, it just makes me think that there could have been a way to minimize that, or even rework the plot to make the transfer feel less ridiculous.

I'll say that it's one of the best directorial debuts I've ever seen though, and the climactic scene where you end up fearing that the cops showed up was so powerful. I was really interested in how this whole meet the parents scenario had happened countless times before with little variation in script, and sadly enough I'm pretty sure every one of those victims asked the question "Do they know I'm black?", and her reaction was always scripted the same way. I also had to look up the brother's IMDb, that guy was a scene stealer and I had to make sure he wasn't Macaulay Culkin.
 
I saw the movie twice, but while I wasn't specifically looking for it, I don't think he did. I distinctly remember that he never managed to get his smoke break before heading back in. I could be wrong though. I just think that Grandpa is particularly hateful of black people, moreso than even the rest of the family.

A friend of mine that I saw this with pointed out that it was simply the Grandpa getting to run like he used to in track.

T S A B O Y S

The greatest horror movie scene of all time is just a fucking cop car pulling up.

As a black guy, that fuckin scene literally had my heart pounding a million beats a minute.

One of the best movies I've ever seen, and certainly one of the most socially relevant movies of the past few years.

I swear I thought he was dead the second those red and blue lights came up.
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Also, the open crawl space door felt so deus ex machina to me that I was trying to figure out a logical reason it would have been left open. Grandma breaking free enough to know that he should see the photos?
 

PixelatedBookake

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I'm really nitpicking here because the overall effort was brilliant, but the brain-switching lab felt so out-of-place hokey to me. I admit that this plot demanded that you had to see these elements at some point, it just makes me think that there could have been a way to minimize that, or even rework the plot to make the transfer feel less ridiculous.

I'll say that it's one of the best directorial debuts I've ever seen though, and the climactic scene where you end up fearing that the cops showed up was so powerful. I was really interested in how this whole meet the parents scenario had happened countless times before with little variation in script, and sadly enough I'm pretty sure every one of those victims asked the question "Do they know I'm black?", and her reaction was always scripted the same way. I also had to look up the brother's IMDb, that guy was a scene stealer and I had to make sure he wasn't Macaulay Culkin.

I might have felt that way if they hadn't set up that the father was a brain surgeon. There was no way he could get away with this crazy shit in an actual hospital. Their house was big enough to hide all of the surgeon shit in it, so why not? But if the brain transfer ACTUALLY happened, I'd feel it would be hokey and dumb.

EDIT: Or should I say, if we had seen it happen. We knew brain shit was going on, just the process not being shown to us in completion.
 
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