VeryGooster
Banned
From the studio who region locked Persona 4 Arena COMES:
Persona 5: You've Been WARNED
Persona 5: You've Been WARNED
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A note about Persona 5 Streaming From Atlus
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Neuromancer
Member
Seems a bit ridiculous I can't even take screenshots.
Under notifications you can turn that off.
Thabass
Member
Oh, no we don't. I'll go buy the game right now and stream the entire playthrough on my Twitch account. I don't give a fuck what they do.
It's not dishonest, it's the truth. Watching a stream is a legit substitute to buying and playing the game oneself as opposed to something like FIFA or Overwatch, where streams are of a complementary nature.
I'm sure that would be a key point if there was to be a legal clarification on stiff like this.
Yeah. I don't think this actually has anything to do with spoilers. More like they are afraid it would hurt sales( which of course it really wouldn't) and they are using the spoiler thing as an excuse.
uncleslappy
nethack is my favorite dark souls clone
If people want it spoiled they will look for it. If they don't want it spoiled, they will avoid streams and videos. Pretty simple.
Edit:
Oh - that actually makes a lot of sense.
Edit:
Oh - that actually makes a lot of sense.
Atlus could ask for no spoilers in the video titles (like people apparently like to do on YouTube and in most cases not with bad intentions, just because they're fucking stupid) and this would solve whatever issue. Why the fuck would I enter a video saying it's after 07/07 if I care about spoilers?
Holy shit I'm mad lol
Holy shit I'm mad lol
Plumpbiscuit
Member
Guys.
Guys....
GUYS.
Maybe this is their attempt to inadvertently make more people stream the game in order to get more exposure for the game. Maybe they want the opposite effect.
Guys....
GUYS.
Maybe this is their attempt to inadvertently make more people stream the game in order to get more exposure for the game. Maybe they want the opposite effect.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Lmao
WickedLaharl
Member
please fuck off with that response. people need to take personal responsibility without mommy needing to cover their eyes.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
If this doesn't actually hurt their sales in the slightest (or if it actually helps) I wonder how many other companies will think about it. I think it's bizarre and most likely stupid to be antagonistic to streamers in 2017 but the assumption that this hurts sales is kind of just that. This also has nothing to do with spoilers but that's some decent spin I guess
If they don't give consent for you to stream it on twitch how is it any different than a tv broadcast, film, etc. I think it's garbage on their part but you don't own the rights to stream it?
They will if people actually get suspended? There isn't a Streisand effect here, folks accounts will get suspended and less people will stream it if that's the road they want to go down.
If they don't give consent for you to stream it on twitch how is it any different than a tv broadcast, film, etc. I think it's garbage on their part but you don't own the rights to stream it?
They will if people actually get suspended? There isn't a Streisand effect here, folks accounts will get suspended and less people will stream it if that's the road they want to go down.
Of course not.
balladofwindfishes
Member
There are streamers that make so much money for Twitch, they wouldn't dare suspend them for streaming this game.
Well I wouldn't say they don't exist or are so small, I mean you can't really measure or prove that statement.
For instance I was planning on buying Horizon but I was really busy and didn't have the time to buy it. So I started to watch a stream of it and was really interested in the story so I couldn't stop myself from watching. If there wasn't a stream then i would have been more likely to buy it but now that i have seen the story there really isn't any reason.
Also for story based games its very hard to go out of your way to buy them when you can just watch it online. While your not getting the full personal experience if its a game with choices, it still makes someone less likely to buy it. Its like being able to watch a full movie online rather then going out to see it. I don't really understand why video game media has a different precedent especially when it comes to story games.
Megawarrior
Member
Not even Sony did this with Until Dawn or Square enix with Life Is Strange. This is just...
it's also funny that they released this now despite western copies having been sold for nearly a week ahead of launch
and yet horizon sold through 2.6 million in two weeks
and yet horizon sold through 2.6 million in two weeks
bemusedchunk
Banned
Giant Bomb Persona 4 Endurance Run says hello.
Boy, they're a bit touchy about spoilers. Comes off as pretentious and tactless.
It's also super annoying that I get a notification from my PS4 every 5 minutes that recording has ceased because I've entered a blocked scene. I'm not even streaming. I suppose I can change the recording settings, right?
It's also super annoying that I get a notification from my PS4 every 5 minutes that recording has ceased because I've entered a blocked scene. I'm not even streaming. I suppose I can change the recording settings, right?
motorised mallard
Member
Had no plans to watch streams or do streams and won't change my plans to get it and play it.
Buuuuuuut this sounds stupid and really old way of thinking.
Buuuuuuut this sounds stupid and really old way of thinking.
Uno Venova
Banned
We'll get over it.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
It's downright surreal how hard the irony is lost on them.
Or worse, they're completely aware and just don't give a shit.
You have nothing to back this up. Meanwhile there are plenty of games out there that are what the are today thanks to the internet.
See: Undertale, Minecraft, etc.
No game is the second coming of Jesus Christ that the story needs to have this much god damn bull shit surround it to prevent folks from learning about it.
Wake up and smell the coffee. If someone wants to avoid spoilers they will avoid spoilers by not going out to find them. Some people get spoiled no matter what, because the internet is the internet.
However, Twitch is FREE advertisement for a game that can net you 10's of thousands of eyes and get you more sales really quick especially on early release of a title from hype on a good streamer.
Guys are morons.
Wake up and smell the coffee. If someone wants to avoid spoilers they will avoid spoilers by not going out to find them. Some people get spoiled no matter what, because the internet is the internet.
However, Twitch is FREE advertisement for a game that can net you 10's of thousands of eyes and get you more sales really quick especially on early release of a title from hype on a good streamer.
Guys are morons.
Arguably, Persona itself is so popular in the west due to the internet. The Endurance Run and word-of-mouth have done tremendous good for the franchise's popularity. Atlus is ripping off their nose to spite their face.
Elfforkusu
Member
Maybe I won't buy Persona 5.
Was planning on it, but, you know, no shortage of other games to play!
Was planning on it, but, you know, no shortage of other games to play!
King Gilga
Member
Go fuck yourself with a stick atlus.
Hypocritical shitheads.
Hypocritical shitheads.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I don't understand feeling the need to protect individuals that actively seek out and watch streams from spoilers.
If they're watching, they probably don't care all that much. I'm not watching specifically because I don't want to be spoiled.
If they're watching, they probably don't care all that much. I'm not watching specifically because I don't want to be spoiled.
I expect a few videos about it and then everyone forgets.
It's not like it's a decision by the writers and developers.
Well it depends on the game, you can't say that every game will equally be effected. Of course small indie games and online games with communities benefit a lot from streams. That's why you have departments for those specific studios designed to reach out to streamers and twitch viewers.
I mean I am not defending atlus because I watch streams, I can just understand their reasoning. Also again I have always found it very strange that I can "experience" a game without actually paying any money.
Leafhopper
Banned
Daily reminder that the P4 Endurance Run by Giant Bomb only sold more copies of P4 than anything else.
I would argue the streamers are the people that are more okay with this anyway. I feel bad for the people who do the LP video format thing.
I would argue the streamers are the people that are more okay with this anyway. I feel bad for the people who do the LP video format thing.
Don't believe for a second that this is about spoilers.
OfficerCrunk
Member
Looks like I'll be streaming the fuck out of my playthrough of this game starting tonight. Atlus can fuck off with the content strike threats.
Pandora012
Member
I seriously think they just don't understand the irony of it. Maybe it's just the suit at Atlus that didn't play the game that are making these rules.
Honestly, either is pretty bad. Being out of touch or just not caring.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
No doubt about that. Just funny how these out-of-touch execs are proving the point of their own company's product.
Persona is one of those games. I cannot tell you how many games I've bought because I saw someone do an LP of it.
The vast majority of people who watch LPs aren't doing it because they don't want to pay for a game.
You are using your personal experiences to project onto the rest of the internet.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Fuck em. Glad i'm buying 2nd hand.
A lot of this is the company not understanding streamers HELP sales. I never had played a Persona game or really even heard of them until Jeff and Vinny did the Endurance Run of P4. That directly led to me buying P4 Golden and now the Take Your Heart edition of P5.
By letting people watch a Let's Play, you might be losing a tiny number of sales upfront (most of the people who would watch an LP probably weren't going to buy the game anyway) but you're helping to build a larger audience down the road. P5 is a direct beneficiary of that effect from P4, and shutting that down is incredibly shortsighted.
By letting people watch a Let's Play, you might be losing a tiny number of sales upfront (most of the people who would watch an LP probably weren't going to buy the game anyway) but you're helping to build a larger audience down the road. P5 is a direct beneficiary of that effect from P4, and shutting that down is incredibly shortsighted.
Someone already found a way around the restrictions https://clips.twitch.tv/DullModernStrawberryVoHiYo
Son Of Sparda
Member
This is so stupid. On so many levels.