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A note about Persona 5 Streaming From Atlus
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R_thanatos
Member
I got several for the japanese version.
The entity sending strikes is always atlus japan in all cases.
They aren't doing this because of spoilers, they're doing it because they're assuming people will watch it on YouTube/Twitch instead of buying it.
An incorrect assumption.
You're probably right
mokalovesoulmate
Member
Got it man. Since Atlus has been published their 'guidelines', I think streamers know what they need to share.
I would recommend they stream Mementos/dungeon gameplay (with Hard difficulty, lol), world activity, social links boost...etc not related to the core story.
Daria Morgendorffer
Member
The no spoilers excuse is such bs, if they really cared about that they'd ask content creators to put the date in their video titles
My user name is the fucking name some people gave the protagonist in their Persona 4 video series where they played the entire game, captured it on video, and uploaded it on the internet. Streaming and video footage are so vital for a game like Persona. It's all about word of mouth. Morons.
TheJollyCorner
Member
I just want to take screenshots, Atlus. 
atlus literally blocked the ps4's share function for 99% of the game
so far that has hampered my game experience
fuck them
Yea, I want to take screens for cool locations or visuals and also whenever i see a funny moment or dialogue. Fucking stupid.
I just want to take screenshots, Atlus.
Yeah. I just want to share my OP end game personas that I spent ages fusing. Not to mention, screenshot cannot be saved after unlocking trophies.
Mysterious Stranger
Member
Thats insane! How can they limit people on twitch or yourtube from streaming this game? There's too many people!
Vincent Grayson
Member
Because while they have no legal authority to stop it, Twitch and YouTube seem all-too-happy to just let publishers do whatever they want, so it's pretty easy to kill streams.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Y'know this crap is actively pushing me away from the game. Really hoping to see Ben of EZA sell me on this but it's looking like he'll be lucky if he can stream it going by their stupid rules.
Sega Japan was using Content ID Strikes on Yakuza 5 videos of the NA release, so as recently as Dec 2015
Not sure if SOA talked some sense into them since then.
I think so. Haven't heard anything happen with Y0 streams. I think they were even promoting them on Twitter.
King Gilga
Member
Wow, you shills are ridiculous.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
What about the people who are still conflicted about the game?
There is no demo of it available. Streams and Let's Plays are what people need to see if they wanna buy the game for themselves or not.
I too am of the opinion that people should go out and play the game for themselves, but if they need some help in making their decision I am glad if I can provide these people with my videos of the game.
The most ridiculous thing Atlus said is that streaming or releasing any footage from the game after its in-game date of 7/7 could mean that your account gets suspended!
I mean, what the fuck is up with that?
That must mean that Atlus is going full on copyright claiming videos. Three strikes on YouTube and you're out. Even though you didn't break ANY copyright law at all.
What they'd doing is abusing YouTube's copyright claim system. And that's disgusting as fuck.
Sorry, but if you side with Atlus on this one then you might as well see yourself out.
What if I don't want to play it and just WATCH it? What if I already played and want to see other people play to get their reactions?
After playing 5 hours last night, it's a HUGE shame people can't just look up how good this game is. The presentation is top notch and I'm loving the English VO.
Let people share this awesome game with the world. People who loved the previous Personas already picked it up. The rest need to be presuaded. Using threats and restricting shareplay is a stupid idiotic move.
Let people share this awesome game with the world. People who loved the previous Personas already picked it up. The rest need to be presuaded. Using threats and restricting shareplay is a stupid idiotic move.
Well if it was only for the first reason then it would be a pretty scummy thing to do because Persona 5 deserves every sale it can get. It's an amazing experience. Gotta hand it to you for the second reason though.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
If it hadn't been for the Endurance Run I might not have gotten into this series. It's their game and they can do with it what they want, but this just seems wrong to me.
or you know, they could just stream a game where they don't have to deal with this nonsense, which seems to be what is happening.
A bigger loss for Atlus than the streamer in my opinion.
I agree it would be scummy if this actually affected the game sales, but as pointed out in this thread, allowing streaming have absolutely no negative impact. It's either positive or neutral, so if a person has no intention to play the game and want to watch it, they won't buy the game if streaming is not available.
I have a very small YT channel (and wasn't planning streaming P5 as I want to take my time with the game), and I get lots of messages from people saying they bought a game due to watching my playthroughs, so by experiencing this I can't help to find Atlus decision absolutely stupid.
@BooDooPerson
Sticking their head in the sand and ignoring the sheer number of people who discovered Persona 4 because of the fucking Giantbomb Endurance Run
Sticking their head in the sand and ignoring the sheer number of people who discovered Persona 4 because of the fucking Giantbomb Endurance Run
Plumpbiscuit
Member
Purely opinion. Not everybody will find the story to be deep and besides that, there is no arbitrary natural law that tells us we have to play a video game to experience it. People have been watching reviews, seeing their friends play it and reading let's plays for decades now, who the fuck are you to say we are "suppose" to play a video game in order to get the best experience out of it? Get out of here.
Why do we have to show our friends the prologue and early gameplay? What if they are interested in late-game content, much like I am, I am much more drawn into a game with its latter stages of content rahter than its openings. Also, what are you even talking about saying Atlus is leaving it to us to decide which are spoilers? They are outright saying, in black and white, that past 7/7 days is spoilerific territory. That's Atlus deciding for us.
There's a difference between a company asking us to follow guidelines, and a company saying upper management will threaten content creators with ID claims and even copyright strikes should they not follow their "guideline". Also it would help if your spelling and grammar were consistent and not as if written by a school drop out, it's kind of hard to refer back to and reply to.
How does them telling content creators what they can do and do not do enhance or otherwise maintain a certain quality of game experience? You have not given enough reasons and factual information to make people believe your argument can hold water, so I won't be able to take your viewpoint seriously.
How about giving us legitimate reasons to, beyond your own "personal" arguments, in that being forced to comply with their rules enhances the game experience for people who find enjoyment in games beyond tapping into the games' lore?
A lot of popular streamers I follow are not only gonna avoid streaming it now but they'll also point out how awful this policy is and people who could be interested and buy the game will not bother anymore.
I've seen so many people buy a game based on seeing it on stream. It's not like they watch the whole LP anyway. They watch the first hour or so and if it interests them, they'll pick it up. People who don't plan on buying it at all won't ever buy it anyway.
I've seen so many people buy a game based on seeing it on stream. It's not like they watch the whole LP anyway. They watch the first hour or so and if it interests them, they'll pick it up. People who don't plan on buying it at all won't ever buy it anyway.
People actually defending this is blowing my mind somewhat.
Neogaf gonna Neogaf I guess.
But it sounds like this is going to HURT persona 5 sales more than anything.
Popular streamers avoiding it is a massive loss of free marketing for the game.
Some of these streamers reach MILLIONS of people.
Throwing away free advertising is mad, bananas, crazy, nuts.
Neogaf gonna Neogaf I guess.
But it sounds like this is going to HURT persona 5 sales more than anything.
Popular streamers avoiding it is a massive loss of free marketing for the game.
Some of these streamers reach MILLIONS of people.
Throwing away free advertising is mad, bananas, crazy, nuts.
Not sure if it hurts the sales or not, this game is for persona fans, so they will buy it.
And honestly, with the recent events on "popular youtubers", i think they are a dying breed, not to mention the group of youtubers that would actually want to stream p5
lol dying breed
Twitch and its streamers get bigger every single day with more and more people watching them.
Also i'm the human example that people that were completely new to the franchise were willing to buy the game, too bad they did the impossible to make sure to keep me away from it.
The Greek Freak
Member
This is embarrassing and counter productive.
After watching 20+ hours of the endurance run I bought
Persona 3
Persona 3 portable
Persona 1 on psp
Persona 2 on psp
Persona Q
Persona arena
Persona 4
Persona 4 golden
Persona 5
Not to mention I bought other SMT/Atlus games I had never heard of or would have bothered to try like 2 ds games, and 2 3ds games.
If Atlus acted like this with Persona 4 they would have several hundred less of my dollars.
After watching 20+ hours of the endurance run I bought
Persona 3
Persona 3 portable
Persona 1 on psp
Persona 2 on psp
Persona Q
Persona arena
Persona 4
Persona 4 golden
Persona 5
Not to mention I bought other SMT/Atlus games I had never heard of or would have bothered to try like 2 ds games, and 2 3ds games.
If Atlus acted like this with Persona 4 they would have several hundred less of my dollars.
Companies always want to expand their fanbase. The game is obviously a step up in production values compared to Persona 4, of course they would want new fans, not only the current fans to buy it. It makes no sense, this is not a kickstarter game pitched on nostalgia.
2 Youtubers were involved in controversies, and even those 2 are not losing subscribers. Come on.
I have a small group of friends I like to stream games with. I make no money from YouTube or twitch. Atlus is making it incredibly difficult for us to stream games and hang out like we have with P3 and P4 and tons of other SMT games.
This most adversely affects people who have income due to YouTube and twitch, but it absolutely affects others as well.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
This is fucked up but refunding the game seems like an extreme overreaction. Many people worked hard on the game, don't see a need to deny a sale to them because of a stupid corporate decision like this. Obviously if you bought the game for the purpose of streaming that is a different story.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Persona fanboys too focused on gargling on the rod of Atlus, that's all it is.
And people with an axe to grind with streamers and LP'ers, who they deride as 'not having a real job' so in a twisted way, this policy is schadenfreude for them.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Ignore people that will defend this. My experience these same people will very much not give a shit if it's changed some might even change to defend it. That's basically because their only motivation is defending something they love no matter how stupid it is.
Same shit happened ton with Nintendo and the region locking thing years ago and I sure have not seen a thread about the Switch being shit because it lacks region lock. Can be extended to multiple other things really.
Same shit happened ton with Nintendo and the region locking thing years ago and I sure have not seen a thread about the Switch being shit because it lacks region lock. Can be extended to multiple other things really.
Silver Arrows
Banned
When you have mouthbreathers like this:
It's hard to ignore the pretty blatant ballwashing some people do for Atlus's honor. And it is especially infuriating coming from hardcore fans, who have to deal with fuck up after fuck up in regards to P5's English release. And now the complete blackout of share functions and flexing legal muscle over 'spoilers' (yeah fuckin' right)
Lanrutcon
Member
Some of the streamers that would have streamed this game have like, over 5 million subs.
That's a shitload of free advertising. I'm not in Marketing or anything, but if someone told me someone was going to pitch my product for free at a direct audience 5 million strong? I'd ask if I was getting a unicorn and a blowjob with that miracle.
That's a shitload of free advertising. I'm not in Marketing or anything, but if someone told me someone was going to pitch my product for free at a direct audience 5 million strong? I'd ask if I was getting a unicorn and a blowjob with that miracle.
MadChapelier
Member
I'm not even shocked, I mean, this is Atlus we're talking about here. ¯\_(ツ_/¯
_/¯TheJollyCorner
Member
My waifu complains that I never take pictures of her... of us!~!!!~!~!`
They are far from a dying breed. This is a huge mistake from Atlus. It will negatively affect sales from anyone that might have watched the stream and bought the game because of it.
It's just a backwards decision.
What a stupid post you made. Streaming is something built into most consoles and it's an important feature now. Lot's of people use it and for a publisher to be so blind to block it shows how short sighted they are. This will negatively affect Persona 5 more than anything.