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Arkham Asylum Mafia |OT| It's time to kill the Bat

Terrabyte20xx

Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
the feck? You said metareads on D1 are useless, but now you're appealing to players you've played with to use their metaread of you to townread you? Do you see the contradiction?
No, I'm saying that if I survive today, I'm subbing out.
 

Fat4all

Banned
To be clear with Terra, it's not the reads I thought to be flippant or unnecessary, but the follow up reactions to getting heat from the acohrs switch.

I already saw your reads list and appreciated it, btw, was just looking for an update heading towards the end of the day. Looking for fresh peeks.
 

batsnacks

Member
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Lifeline

Member
Is that your final answer? Do you think he's the scummiest of Kalor's past voters?

I think it's strange he was against Terra, but once the Terra bandwagon started going, he voted for me instead.

Feels like he saw a Terra lynch incoming, and didn't want to be implicated in the aftermath so set his vote elsewhere
 
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Terrabyte20xx (4)
Kalor 434
Natiko 450 632
Fat4all 451
SexyFish 688
acohrs 689

Mazre (3)
acohrs 422 689
Natiko 632
Terrabyte20xx 648
Royal_Flush 745
Lifeline 747 750

Lifeline (3)
Terrabyte20xx 214 449
Timeaisis 511
Zippedpinhead 586
batsnacks 702

batsnacks (3)
Sorian 669
Lifeline 750
Dr. Worm 753

Natiko (2)
Faddy 499
Fireblend 676

Fat4all (1)
*Splinter 579

Kalor (1)
batsnacks 140 702
*Splinter 235 579
SexyFish 289 688
MickD 533
Lifeline 693 747

StarSketch (0): Natiko 232 450

Dr. Worm (0): Sorian 491 669, Lifeline 496 506

Sorian (0): Faddy 98 499

acohrs (0): Lifeline 173 216, Lifeline 374 496, Terrabyte20xx 449 501

Timeaisis (0): Sorian 78 287, SexyFish 270 289

SexyFish (0): Timeaisis 207 511, Sorian 287 491, Dr. Worm 318 753

No active vote for Day 1: AbsolutBro, Mazre, Nudull, StarSketch, That Dude John, Verelios

Day 1 Postcount: *Splinter 20, AbsolutBro 13, acohrs 39, batsnacks 38, Dr. Worm 54, Faddy 42, Fat4all 70, Fireblend 23, Kalor 16, Lifeline 52, Mazre 8, MickD 27, Natiko 50, Nudull 5, Royal_Flush 13, SexyFish 25, Sorian 69, StarSketch 11, Terrabyte20xx 29, That Dude John 3, Timeaisis 22, Verelios 21, Zippedpinhead 10


Day 1 ends:
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13 votes for majority
 

*Splinter

Member
First I'll refer to this:


Now as for others, I'm disappointed in Sorian, Zippedpinhead, *splinter, and anyone else who have played games with me. They know how I play, how I use my vote, and have all stayed very quiet on the issue of me. This is probably the 3rd time in my last four games where I have been called out for posts and tactics that I do on the regular and have been on the chopping block for day one. Every time I give a form of defense, I get hounded on and nothing I ever say changes things.


At this point I don't care anymore.
Why should I defend you? I don't know your alignment.

I haven't attacked you, that's the best you're going to get at this point. And acohrs is right that you're expecting us to defend you for meta reasons but complain when meta is used against you.

No, I'm saying that if I survive today, I'm subbing out.
Tempted to vote you just for this.

I'm going to bed soon, will check the vote count and make my final vote.
 

Nudull

Banned
Sounds like most people's minds are set on getting a lynching over with, though I hate to bandwagon myself.

Do keep in mind that I'm working on weekdays, so forgive any dips in activity on my end.
 

batsnacks

Member
I think it's strange he was against Terra, but once the Terra bandwagon started going, he voted for me instead.

Feels like he saw a Terra lynch incoming, and didn't want to be implicated in the aftermath so set his vote elsewhere

bs you haven't even mentioned me this game until now and I've been trying to get your attention for a good half of this phase. You would have said this at the time if you actually thought it.
 

acohrs

Member
Right all, off to bed to me. Happy with my Terra vote so will leave there for dayend, see you all on the other side
 

Natiko

Banned
No, I'm saying that if I survive today, I'm subbing out.
Well, I apologize if my remarks ruined your enjoyment. It's all just a game - I didn't intend anything past that. If you do sub out hopefully you continue to play in future games. I know the moderators will work in private to place people in games that aren't ones people they have trouble playing with are in if you let them know via PM.
 

Sorian

Banned
Just caught up and won't be on until after day 1 ends so...

Sorian, did batsnacks statement calling me top town when I voted for Kolar seem off at all, or was it just a goof by him?

Also, while I'm still feeling iffy on Kolar, I think I'm going to make a change.

Vote: Terrabyte20xx

That exchange with Lifeline was weird, even with an explanation. The cloud of confusion did not help at all.

Let me get this quote out of the way then talk about my thoughts on the rest of this catch up. I don't know what bat was doing when he called you top town for voting Kalor. Originally, I thought he was egging you on and it was a jokey label but no punchline ever really came, honestly nothing really ever came out of it so it seemed off I guess?

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That said, Lifeline, what the hell was that spark of clarity all of a sudden? You've spent all day tooting a group read (bad play) then suddenly something sparkled through and you knew that competing wagons is the best chance for success (good play) and then you went right back to bad play by asserting that mafia could just vote off wagon if the competing wagons are both town and they would just look great for it (no they wouldn't). That and how you suddenly started flailing has me a little confused. Now I'm stuck in a position where I think bats is sketchy as fuck but his points on you are sounding more and more right.
 

Terrabyte20xx

Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
I'm sorry if I'm rubbing people the wrong way, I'm just done have to explain myself over and over only to pretty much always die day one. This is a game and it's supposed to be fun, and it just isn't fun anymore.

I don't want to hurt my team(whether you believe me to be town or not I don't care) by voting myself out so I'm not going to.

None of this is because of anyone personally, It's just clear that I apparently don't know how to play anymore.
 
I'm sorry if I'm rubbing people the wrong way, I'm just done have to explain myself over and over only to pretty much always die day one. This is a game and it's supposed to be fun, and it just isn't fun anymore.

I don't want to hurt my team(whether you believe me to be town or not I don't care) by voting myself out so I'm not going to.

None of this is because of anyone personally, It's just clear that I apparently don't know how to play anymore.

For what it's worth, I am pretty sure you are town and have a vote for lifeline...
 

Sorian

Banned
These top wagons, Terra vote feels like junk to me (though seeing his defeatist attitude makes me feel kind of eh, only saving grace is I know I did frustrate him in DR so I understand.). Mazre is fine but seems like the random chance option, I don't see any logic for Mazre aside from inactivity which is non-alignment indicative. I'm still thinking on the whole batsnacks vs. Lifeline thing. I very much think there is scum between the two now.
 

Fat4all

Banned
So if Terra is gonna swap out, I guess there's reason to not vote for them?

Gives someone else a spot day two I'd suppose.
 

Sorian

Banned
So if Terra is gonna swap out, I guess there's reason to not vote for them?

Gives someone else a spot day two I'd suppose.

Not really, there is material there already, if someone thinks the spot is scum, they should still vote for it. It isn't really a shot in the dark and, purposeful or not, I've seen scum sub out in this position and then the spot didn't get lynched for days because everyone was giving a new player to the game a chance.
 

batsnacks

Member
There is no "batsnacks vs Lifeline thing" there is only me calling out Lifeline for the better half of the day and him putting a horrible vote on me because Dr. Worm gave him an opportunity. Lifeline hasn't engaged me despite me trying to engage him.
 

Kalor

Member
My confidence in a Terra vote was already wavering but now that confidence is completely gone with his recent posts.

Unvote

Hopefully Terra isn't scum pulling the defeated town act.
 

Faddy

Banned
I know that feel.

Sounds like most people's minds are set on getting a lynching over with, though I hate to bandwagon myself.

Do keep in mind that I'm working on weekdays, so forgive any dips in activity on my end.

You are both here now. If you want any sympathy about post counts you should make an actual effort instead of one and done driveby posts
 
These top wagons, Terra vote feels like junk to me (though seeing his defeatist attitude makes me feel kind of eh, only saving grace is I know I did frustrate him in DR so I understand.). Mazre is fine but seems like the random chance option, I don't see any logic for Mazre aside from inactivity which is non-alignment indicative. I'm still thinking on the whole batsnacks vs. Lifeline thing. I very much think there is scum between the two now.
Mazre pretty much is random chance at this point. But the last couple of games I lost as Town (minus DR3 where Nantiko did a great job) were because the random chance people stayed random chance people and never got lynched.

Oth I'd also be on-board for lifeline or bats, though I'd prefer lifeline. The main reason I want to keep him around is that I like the craziness he brings in :)
 

Sorian

Banned
There is no "batsnacks vs Lifeline thing" there is only me calling out Lifeline for the better half of the day and him putting a horrible vote on me because Dr. Worm gave him an opportunity. Lifeline hasn't engaged me despite me trying to engage him.

You two are voting for each other, regardless of the reason, it is a thing. It's just not weighted as strong because my vote is hardly going to stay. I wanted to push something new in the time I knew I'd be afk but didn't expect to come back to this at all. It's painting Lifeline as a cornered baddie and Worm comes out looking weird in it as well which would be funny if Lifeline was scum and did the whole Worm part of his act as a distancing job.

Fuck it though so that the vote count can look more accurate.

VOTE: Lifeline

Though I'd prefer a bats vs. Lifeline wagon, I'd end up on Life in the end I think which means bats would need 2 more votes to even be tied at this point.
 

Fat4all

Banned
Not really, there is material there already, if someone thinks the spot is scum, they should still vote for it. It isn't really a shot in the dark and, purposeful or not, I've seen scum sub out in this position and then the spot didn't get lynched for days because everyone was giving a new player to the game a chance.

That's fair enough.

I'll stick with my guns for now, but I'm still eager for a more obvious chance at lynching scum. I'm looking through the amazed build up and not finding much convincing.
 

Mazre

Member
You are both here now. If you want any sympathy about post counts you should make an actual effort instead of one and done driveby posts

I want 0 post count sympathy. I think it's the worst metric in the game and least indicative of anything.

Lifeline seems super easily swayed here in the late part of the phase despite his convictions earlier on. Makes me lean town on him.

I'm still not crazy about Terra or Kalor as scum either, feels like they were the first players to say/do something a little out of line and have been stuck fighting that all phase.

Bats I could see being scum but his play so far in my mind doesn't warrant a day one lynch. If I were to vote for him at this point it would have to be as an act of self preservation not as any sort of discernment that he was scum.

Worms push on Batsnacks is honestly somewhat troubling to me.
 

Sorian

Banned
Mazre pretty much is random chance at this point. But the last couple of games I lost as Town (minus DR3 where Nantiko did a great job) were because the random chance people stayed random chance people and never got lynched.

Oth I'd also be on-board for lifeline or bats, though I'd prefer lifeline. The main reason I want to keep him around is that I like the craziness he brings in :)

Those "random chance" people are supposed to be dealt with via cop or vig if they are truly only participating the bare minimum and a real read can't be made. I get what you are going for but day 1 needs a strong lynch so that there is more to go about on day 2. Whenever we've done the inactive thing on day 1 then day 2 still, unsurprisingly, feels like more of the same with no real direction.
 
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Lifeline (4)
Terrabyte20xx 214 449
Timeaisis 511
Zippedpinhead 586
batsnacks 702
Sorian 781

Mazre (3)
acohrs 422 689
Natiko 632
Terrabyte20xx 648
Royal_Flush 745
Lifeline 747 750

Terrabyte20xx (3)
Kalor 434 777
Natiko 450 632
Fat4all 451
SexyFish 688
acohrs 689

batsnacks (2)
Sorian 669 781
Lifeline 750
Dr. Worm 753

Natiko (2)
Faddy 499
Fireblend 676

Fat4all (1)
*Splinter 579

Kalor (1)
batsnacks 140 702
*Splinter 235 579
SexyFish 289 688
MickD 533
Lifeline 693 747

Sorian (0): Faddy 98 499

acohrs (0): Lifeline 173 216, Lifeline 374 496, Terrabyte20xx 449 501

Dr. Worm (0): Sorian 491 669, Lifeline 496 506

Timeaisis (0): Sorian 78 287, SexyFish 270 289

StarSketch (0): Natiko 232 450

SexyFish (0): Timeaisis 207 511, Sorian 287 491, Dr. Worm 318 753

No active vote for Day 1: AbsolutBro, Kalor (has previously voted), Mazre, Nudull, StarSketch, That Dude John, Verelios

Day 1 Postcount: *Splinter 21, AbsolutBro 14, acohrs 40, batsnacks 41, Dr. Worm 54, Faddy 43, Fat4all 75, Fireblend 25, Kalor 18, Lifeline 53, Mazre 10, MickD 27, Natiko 51, Nudull 6, Royal_Flush 14, SexyFish 25, Sorian 74, StarSketch 11, Terrabyte20xx 30, That Dude John 3, Timeaisis 22, Verelios 21, Zippedpinhead 12


Day 1 ends:
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13 votes for majority
 

Lifeline

Member
Sorian's vote for me is not surprising, since I have him pegged as Mafia.

If there's going to be lynching today, lots of people are going to need to flip their votes. Who better to get that wagon going strong than "experienced player Sorian".
 
Tempted to vote you just for this.

I'm going to bed soon, will check the vote count and make my final vote.

He's pulled this same move in past games as both scum and town, actually. He freaks out whenever there's significant pressure on him.


I haven't really said anything because people have been making points faster than I can, but whatever the heck was going on with the vote bouncing was really weird. Super tempted to just go 'newbie town flailing' on Lifeline. But on the other hand that could be equally true of scum Lifeline, but that would also assume no one in his scum chat is helping him.

Batsnacks is pretty aggressive, but he appears to be consistent? The lack of reaction from lifeline is interesting though.

I think this is majority lynch everyone we need to start getting busy.

OP said:
22. Once someone has received a strict majority (>50%) of the available votes, the day ends with the Lynch of that player or a No Lynch (whichever applies). Once this has happened, any further votes or unvotes that Phase will not be counted, and the Night Phase will begin shortly.

Ummmmm...
 

Sorian

Banned
Sorian's vote for me is not surprising, since I have him pegged as Mafia.

If there's going to be lynching today, lots of people are going to need to flip their votes. Who better to get that wagon going strong than "experienced player Sorian".

If you are going to struggle against my vote, you would have been better off pointing out that I've been town reading you all day and now suddenly changed my mind, I give no shits that you have me pegged as scum. That's been your read of me all day, it's always been about how others have interacted with me and never about what I, myself, have done even though there are easy criticisms that could be laid on me. The stuff you do target that I did, never actually happened and when I point out to you that the posts you are quoting from me don't mean at all what you are trying to tell everyone they mean, you've ignored me.
 

*Splinter

Member
Not a huge fan of any of these options... Was considering an "eh fuck it" vote on Mazre but it's not based on much and he just made this post:

I want 0 post count sympathy. I think it's the worst metric in the game and least indicative of anything.

Lifeline seems super easily swayed here in the late part of the phase despite his convictions earlier on. Makes me lean town on him.

I'm still not crazy about Terra or Kalor as scum either, feels like they were the first players to say/do something a little out of line and have been stuck fighting that all phase.

Bats I could see being scum but his play so far in my mind doesn't warrant a day one lynch. If I were to vote for him at this point it would have to be as an act of self preservation not as any sort of discernment that he was scum.

Worms push on Batsnacks is honestly somewhat troubling to me.
which I found myself agreeing with (except I'd swap Worm for Sorian in that last sentence).

That leaves me with Natiko. I think I'd prefer to lynch Acohrs first. I remember thinking "if acohrs is scum then Natiko probably is too, but I don't know what lead me to that.

Apart from that I've had a few small suspicions about Natiko... nothing I could ever put my finger on but a few others have raised similar concerns.

"Eh fuck it"

VOTE: Natiko
 

Fireblend

Banned
How would people feel about a MickD vote?

Terrible? I'm already criticizing the Mazre votes for the inactive lynch they're trying to accomplish. And I dunno about Terra, now I kind of feel like lynching him if only because disclosing he's thinking of subbing out is going to buy him more time for him and his replacement and that's a shitty way of getting out of the spotlight.
 
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