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Found Out My Friend is a Flat Earther Today...

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Reeks

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*Splinter said:
Eh?
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https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/degrees-of-freedom/httpblogsscientificamericancomdegrees-of-freedom20110731what-do-you-mean-the-universe-is-flat-part-ii/

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Stand up.
Walk 10 feet straight ahead.
Turn left by 90 degrees.
Walk another 10 feet.
Again, turn left by 90 degrees.
Do it for a third time: walk. then turn left.
Now the next time you walk 10 feet ahead, you'll trace the fourth and last side of a square, and you'll end up where you started. If you turn by 90 degrees for a fourth time, you'll face in the original direction, too.
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Oftentimes, the way that authors introduce the idea of non-Euclidean geometry is by giving examples of what happens when instead of tracing triangles on a plane you trace them on a curved surface—say, on the surface of the Earth.
So start at any point on the equator and head for the North Pole. Once you get there, you've covered one-fourth of the circumference of the globe, or about 10,000 kilometers. Now turn left by 90 degrees and start walking south. After 10,000 kilometers, you'll reach the equator again. But you won't be at the place where you started. Instead, you'll be at a place 10,000 kilometers to the west of the starting point. Now turn left by 90 degrees so that you're facing East, and walk another 10,000 kilometers: you'll be back where you started.
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NeonBlack

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Gravy Boat said:
Do you actually believe in a flat earth? If so can you explain how different climates work? Like, why is the only part of the earth that seemingly gets 24/7 sun exposure (according to that gif) a frozen wasteland? Why does the planet get hotter towards the middle, then cooler again towards the edge?
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Have you actually seen this frozen wasteland or is this just from the Photoshopped pics?

I'm not a flat earther. Pls stop calling my bluff, there's only so much bs I can make up.
 
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HelloMeow

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Tence said:
Yeah....how does the shadow on the moon change according to flath-earthers?
Also why do we have less light in the winter in Europe? Does the sun turn faster?
And why doesn't it have an effect round the equator... where the hours the sun shine stay about the same all year long?
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And why does the sun have the same angular diameter all day? Shouldn't it appear larger when it's closer?

And why does the sun appear to move with the same speed throughout the day? Shouldn't this change as it gets closer and further away?
 
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Gravy Boat

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NeonBlack said:
Have you actually seen this frozen wasteland or is this just from the Photoshopped pics?

I'm not a flat earther. Pls stop calling my bluff.
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:(

I really want to know their explanation for that. Every answer I find is literal nonsense, even more so than the claim of a flat earth itself.
 
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All Possible Ways

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*Splinter said:
The problem with this argument is you can't actually draw these lines to demonstrate it, so you're essentially saying "these parallel lines will meet because the earth is curved, and since they meet that proves the earth is curved".
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Well, you could just use a compass or some other method to know your orientation and travel along these lines, it's just as practical as circumnavigating the Earth. I totally agree that this is not the most practical way to disprove the flat Earth.

Speaking of ways to disprove the flat Earth, here's a kid's pool demonstration of the Coriolis force https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXaad0rsV38
 
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*Splinter

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All Possible Ways said:
Well, you could just use a compass or some other method to know your orientation and travel along these lines, it's just as practical as circumnavigating the Earth. I totally agree that this is not the most practical way to disprove the flat Earth.

Speaking of ways to disprove the flat Earth, here's a kid's pool demonstration of the Coriolis force https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXaad0rsV38
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I assume this conspiracy has unreliable navigation aids (such as compasses) built in, otherwise it would be trivial to disprove.

Then again... It's trivial to disprove anyway, so who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Grassclipper

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Flat-earthers have just misunderstood what is really going on, along with the rest of you of course. Similar to Darwin's evolutionary theory the earth is just evolving. Think about it! It used to be flat, then it was spherical. According to my calculations what we are now seeing, and the flat-earthers are missing, is that the so call "globe" is turning into a cube.
 
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6.8

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Grassclipper said:
Flat-earthers have just misunderstood what is really going on, along with the rest of you of course. Similar to Darwin's evolutionary theory the earth is just evolving. Think about it! It used to be flat, then it was spherical. According to my calculations what we are now seeing, and the flat-earthers are missing, is that the so call "globe" is turning into a cube.
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Flat earth is an interesting theory but it goes deeper than that. I follow the findings of gene ray who found out the earth is a cube.

http://timecube.2enp.com/
 
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Reeks

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*Splinter said:
I'm familiar with non Euclidian geometry, can you explain how this is the "mathematical basis for the flat earth"?

Preferably in your own words, I don't know if you understood this article
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OHhhhhh no no no.. I don't believe there's *any* mathematical basis for the flat earth. I meant flat earthers casually say that "non-Eucludian geometry" is the basis for their theory. I mentioned this in a previous post, which was taken directly from the Flat Earth Society website. And I edited my post above.
 
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LuffyZoro

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One of my best friends is really smart and working on getting a PhD, but she doesn't believe in evolution. It's frustrating.

EDIT: Oh, I also know a couple of people who think we're really close to getting cold fusion, but that's not quite as bad.
 
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RankoSD

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Just ask them why raindrops are spheres while they're falling and watch them as they come up with another stupid reason.
 
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Pinko Marx said:
Just waking up, see this thread, reminded of the conversation with my friend. Sad all over again. :(
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Some people consciously choose to be idiots. There's nothing you can do about it. We all pull our little 'ignoramus' acts on a daily basis, some people just like to act .. on a larger scale.
 
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Astral

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Has anyone ever played Custom Robo on the GameCube? At one point in the game the characters start asking you, the silent protagonist, a bunch of rhetorical questions like "Is Earth round or flat?" Obviously I picked it's round but then everyone was calling the MC crazy and asking if he hit his head or something because apparently in that world the Earth is flat and is surrounded by a giant wall. I hadn't been trolled like that since MGS2.
 
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BakedTanooki

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I always wondered about one thing:
Why don't conspiracy people get the idea, that maybe the conspiracy theory is fake?

I mean they easily believe scientific proven facts are fake, while believing in conspiracy theories with less to none evidence.
Makes no sense.

Why don't they ever think:

"wait, maybe the conspiracy theory is bullshit and some people just like to make easy money with conspiracy books" for example.

So strange. Most of them don't even make the effort to check something out by yourself (get in a plane, buy a telescope etc.)

Just reading some bullshit on the Internet, believing it without questioning and passing that bullshit to other people.
 
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backflip10019

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I don't get what flat-earthers believe. What do they think is on the other side of the earth? Do they really believe there's an outer boundary keeping everything in?

The whole thing is so flabbergastingly stupid that I can't even comprehend how someone can think like that.
 
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zethren

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I'm sorry, but you're friend is a dumb dumb.

What would the NWO have to gain in keeping this from us? Why would they lie to us about the shape of our planet?

The dig on flat earthers in Horizon was great lol
 
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Mr. Poolman

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Talents said:
I know how you feel. Someone on my Facebook is constantly posting flat earth shit. I'm not sure what theory he believes though. He either thinks that there are ice walls at the edges of the Earth with government personnel stationed there to stop people getting to close to them, or he thinks that there is a giant dome surrounding the Earth that has never been penetrated, thus there are no satellites and we've never been to space, all the footage of astronauts on the ISS is fake and it's actually just people in water tanks. Yeah this is what he thinks I'm pretty sure:
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Flat earthers are dumb and should be called on it.

Gravitiy itself would not work on a flat Earth model.
We know this, Newton knew this, the Mayans knew this, hell, old Greeks knew this.
 
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Twilight Gap

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Talents said:
I know how you feel. Someone on my Facebook is constantly posting flat earth shit. I'm not sure what theory he believes though. He either thinks that there are ice walls at the edges of the Earth with government personnel stationed there to stop people getting to close to them, or he thinks that there is a giant dome surrounding the Earth that has never been penetrated, thus there are no satellites and we've never been to space, all the footage of astronauts on the ISS is fake and it's actually just people in water tanks. Yeah this is what he thinks I'm pretty sure:
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so...what's outside the dome?
 
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Mr Git

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Falchion said:
This. Some people will latch onto the weirdest stuff for whatever reason. Don't let it ruin your friendship though.
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Honestly if it were me I'd never get past it. How wouldn't it ruin your friendship.
'Hey this film is good'

'Is it? You think the world is flat.'

'Hey I was just reading an amazing article on how objects just fall'

'Get fucked'

PandaShake said:
That is now my go to response. Was there only one in this thread? Y'all went ham. I wanted to read more of his reasonings lol.
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I came back and read it all. Head in hands. I suppose Your head is hollow works as a similar retort to hollow earthers too. The world is fucked. In the event of flat earthers uprising and trying to take over the world everyone could go to the ISS because they don't believe in it.
 
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RedSparrows

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BakedTanooki said:
I always wondered about one thing:
Why don't conspiracy people get the idea, that maybe the conspiracy theory is fake?

I mean they easily believe scientific proven facts are fake, while believing in conspiracy theories with less to none evidence.
Makes no sense.

Why don't they ever think:

"wait, maybe the conspiracy theory is bullshit and some people just like to make easy money with conspiracy books" for example.

So strange. Most of them don't even make the effort to check something out by yourself (get in a plane, buy a telescope etc.)

Just reading some bullshit on the Internet, believing it without questioning and passing that bullshit to other people.
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Because it, like so many things, is not about what it is said to ostensibly be.

It is not about speaking truth, so much as it is about being different and thus special.
 
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Kraftwerk

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Get in a helicopter and hover above the same spot until fuel runs out and you have to land.

If the earth is round and rotating, then why are you in the same spot as before, and not in a different location since the earth is supposed to rotate under you?!

Checkmate globalists
 
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hobozero

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backflip10019 said:
I don't get what flat-earthers believe. What do they think is on the other side of the earth? Do they really believe there's an outer boundary keeping everything in?

The whole thing is so flabbergastingly stupid that I can't even comprehend how someone can think like that.
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It's sitting on a turtle, I believe.
 
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Pinko Marx

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Kraftwerk said:
Get in a helicopter and hover above the same spot until fuel runs out and you have to land.

If the earth is round and rotating, then why are you in the same spot as before, and not in a different location since the earth is supposed to rotate under you?!

Checkmate globalists
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What /is/ the explanation for this?
 
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Reeks

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Pinko Marx said:
What /is/ the explanation for this?
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Are y'all kidding? Ack I can't even tell anymore.

Edit: if you hover over the same spot, you move with that spot. If you stay completely stationary, the earth will move under you. But remember that the earth is very large and this wont happen in the blink of an eye....
 
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Linkstrikesback

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Pinko Marx said:
What /is/ the explanation for this?
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Angular momentum is conserved. Same reason you don't go flying backwards if you jump from a standing position. Every person on the planet is moving with the same angular momentum that the surface is. Just moving upwards doesn't take that momentum away, you'd have to deliberately exert force to reduce it, which would also cause a flying helicopter to move compared to the surface of the Earth.
 
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the-pi-guy

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Pinko Marx said:
What /is/ the explanation for this?
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So you are in a car, going 60 miles per hour. Someone in the backseat has a ball. At the same time that you start breaking as fast as you can, they let go of the ball. Where does the ball go?
Even though, no one is touching the ball anymore it's freely in the air just like the helicopter, it will move forward. The reason it does this is because nothing made it slow down. The ball continued at 60 mph at exactly the same speed as the car started, even as the car slows down.
Same with the helicopter, even though it is free in the air, nothing takes away the motion it already had from being on Earth. So it projects in the same direction with the same velocity​ as the Earth. This is why it doesn't rotate away from you, because you are still making the same motion.
 
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RionaaM

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Kraftwerk said:
Get in a helicopter and hover above the same spot until fuel runs out and you have to land.

If the earth is round and rotating, then why are you in the same spot as before, and not in a different location since the earth is supposed to rotate under you?!

Checkmate globalists
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You're right. If the Earth rotated, I could jump and get to Japan in a few seconds. Since I can't do that, my conclusion is that Japan doesn't exist.
 
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