Considering Daredevil's Netflix show, I'd say there's reason to be hopeful for Daredevil in MvCI.
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So what sells more Injustice 2 or Marvel vs Capcom: Infinity?
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Interfectum
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Batman.
Leon Belmont
Member
If Capcom adds more characters to the roster of MVCI and the story it's good enough, probably it will sell more than I2, plus MVCI will be released on PS4, Xbox One and PC and I2 only on PS4 and Xbox One but who knows, what they've shown of I2 so far it's good enough to outsell MVCI...
Marvel name gives MvC:I a great chance to outsell injustice but Capcom is the problem here, they are the best when it comes to gameplay, but it seems like they forgot how to deliver the complete package in their games, their games are like a gold bar that's wrapped in tin foil.
I honestly wouldn't be too sure. Casuals may be hesitant to jump on MvCI immediately after SFV's rocky launch, plus there's the issue of the potential lack of X-Men on Day 1 (namely Wolverine & Deadpool, both of whom have gained a ton of popularity recently). Sure, the MCU's popularity will help out MvCI out in terms of sales, but NRS games sell gangbusters to the casual audience (& WB's insane marketing doesn't hurt, either).
MvCI has a chance at outdoing Injustice 2, but it's not a very big chance (even if the casuals are happy with the content that MvCI has at launch).
Irishmantis
Member
Wow that's a lot
As for Evo it did, but Inj 2 won't
It's hard to compare really because that was just the ESL main event itself for 1 season and not counting the other and huge pot bonus NRS had bring chucking out over it, but of course I know SFV and T7 is much more dominant in the FGC, in just saying we are nothing to sleep on for Esports and we will only continue to grow.
Which is good for everyone
Also NRS did the exact same thing for costumes where all profits went into tourneys
cripterion
Member
This.
SFxT had a tournament life span of about a year and a half in the US despite the amount of problems the game had at launch and the boring gameplay with its jabs being so good so at high level they were used frequently early on. Games that can't boast the same numbers for tournament life span: Persona 4 Arena/Ultimax, Blazblue: Chronophantasma (despite the hypest top 8 of EVO 2k14), Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown (despite being one of the best fighting games ever made), Skullgirls (though it's had a resurgence recently), King of Fighter XIII (was big outside of US, mostly Mexico). These are just a few of the bigger names nevermind things like Melty Blood/Arcana Hearts, etc. People gave a bad Capcom game (general consensus) more of a chance than "good" games.
KoFXIV is noted as being a fantastic fighter but in 2 months I doubt it cracks the top 5 tournament entrants. At Winter Brawl 11 it had 42 entrants, here's the games that beat it in numbers barring the obvious SF/Smash/MKX/etc: Injustice 1, Pokken, SSFII: Turbo, DoA5, 3rd Strike.
slick7rick
Member
No X-Men?
No Deadpool?
No fucking Wolverine?!
What the fuck! I don't follow news on games I intend to buy, so this is extremely disappointing to hear.
Lmao that must work out well for you for you to still do it
slick7rick
Member
It has. I only buy games months or even years after release, so if a game is shit I'd know by then.
Nemesis121
Member
I don't think Injustice 2 will sell MKX numbers, it has competition breathing down it's throat, T7 is 17 days later, MVCi has no other fighter coming to challenge it, the buzz of T7/IJ2 will long be gone...
MvCi has a chance to beat Injustice 2 thanks to T7 heat..
MvCi has a chance to beat Injustice 2 thanks to T7 heat..
KonradLaw
Member
Yeah, how dare they make a fighting game that's fun for singleplayer. Those monsters
KonradLaw
Member
I don't think movie hype transfers much to videogames sales. Most videogame adaptations sell like crap afterall.
Meanwhile in videogame realm DC brand is a lot stronger than Marvel one, which these days is mostly associeated with some really awful F2P crap
No Doom, as well. Supposedly they'll be DLC, but not until maybe 2018 (I hope we get them sooner).
And for the record, Marvel Entertainment is to blame for this, not Capcom.
Son Of Sparda
Member
"Netherrealm + DC characters + the hype from the first Injustice"
That's just too strong of a combo for MvC:I to be able to beat. Even with all the MCU hype. Though, at the end of the day they'll both sell good, no doubt about that.
That's just too strong of a combo for MvC:I to be able to beat. Even with all the MCU hype. Though, at the end of the day they'll both sell good, no doubt about that.
JimiNutz
Banned
MvC should sell more and if doesn't sell more than Capcom need to take a long look at their product and question why.
Outside of maybe Batman the Marvel characters are now way more popular than DC heroes. There is no reason why a Marvel fighting game shouldn't sell more copies than a DC one.
If Injustice 2 sells more (and it probably will) then I hope Capcom make the necessary changes:
- Introduce a proper single player storyline and significant single player content since that clearly sells games.
- Introduce significant and detailed tutorials that make learning the game fun and intuitive for new players.
- Simplify specific move inputs so that there isn't a huge barrier for new players trying to learn the game (luckily it looks like they are doing this at least already).
- Get rid of obscure Capcom characters from the base roster and focus on characters that are popular (more Marvel basically). Add the other characters that are popular with the geeks (like us) as separate DLC. I actually think they should make Marvel only fighting game with maybe a small selection of guest Capcom characters as DLC.
Outside of maybe Batman the Marvel characters are now way more popular than DC heroes. There is no reason why a Marvel fighting game shouldn't sell more copies than a DC one.
If Injustice 2 sells more (and it probably will) then I hope Capcom make the necessary changes:
- Introduce a proper single player storyline and significant single player content since that clearly sells games.
- Introduce significant and detailed tutorials that make learning the game fun and intuitive for new players.
- Simplify specific move inputs so that there isn't a huge barrier for new players trying to learn the game (luckily it looks like they are doing this at least already).
- Get rid of obscure Capcom characters from the base roster and focus on characters that are popular (more Marvel basically). Add the other characters that are popular with the geeks (like us) as separate DLC. I actually think they should make Marvel only fighting game with maybe a small selection of guest Capcom characters as DLC.
Obliterator
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Thing is MvC:I and Tekken aren't even really competition to Injustice.
NR fighting games have such wide appeal at this point it's not just for the fighting community. There are lots of people who are going to buy Injustice 2 who won't purchase another fighter until the next MK. NR has built a reputation on huge content in their games. Extensive single player, lots of modes, great presentation, etc.
I don't think any fighter comes close to Injustice 2 until MK11
The Salt Life
Banned
Injustice 2, I have zero faith in Capcom they have a lot to prove to me.
I love Tekken. I truly do. Injustice 2 sales will stomp a mudhole into Tekken and walk it dry.
Tekken is no longer a big seller, but it will do just fine for itself.
My friend who doesn't give a crap about fighters. He'll play them if available or wait for a deep sale to play for a few hours or have something to pick up and play with friends. He's talking about pre-ordering I2, meanwhile he didn't even know MvC:I was announced til he saw me do a Facebook post about it.
This is all anecdotal stuff but it shows the casual appeal of NRS games. They hit the beats that interest people that typically don't care about fighters.
JeTmAn81
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I gave SFIV a bunch of shots last gen and I've got SFV as well. They've never gelled with me like Marvel 3 did, but I keep them around and try to play them because Street Fighter is still the lingua franca of the FGC. Almost everyone plays it, and if you play it you stand a better chance of getting into matches with people locally.
lucebuce12
Member
While it's a nice thought, it's not gonna happen cause NetherRealm is owned by Warner Brothers.
Warner Brothers also own DC Entertainment.
You do realize that WB Games owns NRS, right?
Drilbit777
Member
Injustice 2 for sure, MVCI has been getting pretty bad press lately for the poor graphics, dlc, and capcoms reputation as a whole. NRS knows how to reel in casuals
Schweinehund
Member
Going by past history, IJ by a bit.
I don't think movies have that much of an impact on anything. Neither comics nor video games seem to have had a huge impact (positive or negative) from a movie's performance.
I don't think movies have that much of an impact on anything. Neither comics nor video games seem to have had a huge impact (positive or negative) from a movie's performance.
yeah I buy MK/Injustice for their stories and then I gradually step a foot into online (and sometimes win)
more excited for IJ then I ever could be for MK. I just love DC/Marvel superheroes (well any superhero game but there is so few)
I think MVCI will sell more for the following factors:
-MCU overall superiority over DCCU means a bigger brand awareness for all things marvel.
-MVCI is the newest game in a series of well loved fighting games that are widely recognized in the gaming sphere
-Based in the precedent of the past iterations of each game, The Fighting game Community will embrace MVCI much better than Injustice 2, which can give it a little push in sales.
And injustice 2 hasn't gotten criticism over the supremely ugly models and the fact that it has a shit ton more day one DLC than MVCI??
-MCU overall superiority over DCCU means a bigger brand awareness for all things marvel.
-MVCI is the newest game in a series of well loved fighting games that are widely recognized in the gaming sphere
-Based in the precedent of the past iterations of each game, The Fighting game Community will embrace MVCI much better than Injustice 2, which can give it a little push in sales.
And injustice 2 hasn't gotten criticism over the supremely ugly models and the fact that it has a shit ton more day one DLC than MVCI??
Drilbit777
Member
I'd argue and say that right now Injustice 2 models look better lol (Looking at you MVCI Chun)
I disagree, sure Chun looks weird, but she still looks better than 90% the entire NRS cast of women.
I think the games are standing like this right now:
MVCI: Stylized low spec models.
Injustice 2: Horriblly designed next gen HD models.
JeTmAn81
Member
IJ2 got some flak over ugly faces in earlier footage but they've cleaned that up and the general consensus now seems to be that IJ2 looks pretty good. You can't say the same for MVCI.
Im gonna say that i always thought the hate for both of the games graphics was hyperbole to be honest, yes Injustice 2 struggles with faces, but i always thought it still looked awesome, and frankly i don't see why people hate so much the MVCI graphics save for chun li's weird face.
I think both games have their kinks but look pretty good, just wanted to point out people had those 2 complaints about Injustice 2 as well.
Irishmantis
Member
People often judge the faces too early but they improve
I'm sure you can pick 2 or 3 bad ones out but for the most part I think NRS has done a hell of a job for overcoming this hurdle they being infamous with
It's not that big of an issue considering WB owns Traveler's Tales and published Lego Marvel Super Heroes and Lego Marvel Avengers (not that I think NR would ever make a Marvel fighting game).
To be fair, Lego has the Marvel license.
Lightbreaker
Neo Member
Outside the cinematic and some parts of the Marvel TV universe, Marvel's name doesn't hold as much clout like DC does except for some characters (Spider-Man, Wolverine, Deadpool and so on).
I can see Marvel taking this only if IJ2 is incredibly bad.
I can see Marvel taking this only if IJ2 is incredibly bad.
Lightbreaker
Neo Member
The fighting game community is a non-factor at the current moment. SF5 is pretty much running the FGC yet it's on track to being one of the worst street fighters in the franchise.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Not sure MvCI has any day 1 dlc that isn't purely cosmetic. I know that Injustice 2 has day 1 preorder character dlc. Sigma is part of the character pass so I doubt he drops day 1.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Worst in what way?
Irishmantis
Member
Dies it not gave 6 chars as DLC announced or is that just costumes?
drotahorror
Member
It does? So they're not like MKX ie, long ass strings and juggles with pretty strict timing? I hated the combos in MKX.
direct_quote
Member
Harley's face is still bad, but Poison Ivy's looks good and I'm surprised they tweaked Aquaman's. IJ2 is a big improvement over IJ1 in graphics, and NRS animations are looking less stiff now. Just not so interested in the gameplay though, and I feel the supers or w/e you call them in IJ are too over the top and disjointing...
Didn't SF3 sell way worse than SFV? People tend to exaggerate things.