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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.

caliph95

Member
Barry: Why don't i just kill myself
Savitar: The Rf is fine plus timetravel plus rules don't really apply if you time travel so much
Barry: Then why do you need me to do stuff for you to exist
Savitar:.........

i'm nitpicking honestly
 

Volimar

Member
Barry: Why don't i just kill myself
Savitar: The Rf is fine plus timetravel plus rules don't really apply if you time travel so much
Barry: Then why do you need me to do stuff for you to exist
Savitar:.........

i'm nitpicking honestly


Do you really want an episode of Barry deciding to kill himself only to get talked out of it by his speedforce mom?
 

Piku_Ringo

Banned
Makes sense Barry would like DBZ given him being an idiot, blatant disregard for people in other universes, putting his friends/allies in danger with his actions, time traveling shenanigans, and helping give birth to his own Black Goku in the form of Savitar Barry who ends up killing his significant other. It's like his bible to dealing with all his problems.


Wonder why they're calling Stone Cold Heatmonger?
 

caliph95

Member
Makes sense Barry would like DBZ given him being an idiot, blatant disregard for people in other universes, putting his friends/allies in danger with his actions, time traveling shenanigans, and helping give birth to his own Black Goku in the form of Savitar Barry who ends up killing his significant other. It's like his bible to dealing with all his problems.


Wonder why they're calling Stone Cold Heatmonger?
Also fighting a new speedster with a higher speed level every season
 

Sir Doom

Member
Of all the tech, a sweat destroys it. A flimsy excuse for hijinks ensues. Then again the episode feels like a filler. Just watch the last 35 seconds

Barry likes DBZ. Notice me, Senpai!
 

nOoblet16

Member
2 episodes left and we are still doing filler crap where they do stuff only for them to press the reset button at the end.

If you don't want Barry to know then just don't tell him shit, a Savitar who doesn't know stuff can be taken down by Wally and Jesse anyway. Plus there's Cisco and Supergirl but they won't have her join Flash for his season finale.

Also why can't they just put a bracelet on Caitlin using super speed lol
 

Chase17

Member
Burst out laughing when Savitar, while choking out Killer Frost, titled his head to the camera and said "Who am I?".

Judge must be kicking himself for dismissing the case, of someone who would immediately put so many lives in danger, because Bart couldn't elaborate.
 
I don't particularly care about the thread title. I do care that people think Barry being Savitar, at any point within the last 6 episodes, is a spoiler.

It's a "Thanos is in this" level spoiler.

And, again, it's something the Reverse Flash said. It's not even the thing Reverse Flash said at the beginning of the season that actually would give it away (Whose the villain now?).

To be spoiled by this you would had to have already spoiled yourself by thinking about Savitar's identity for more than 15 seconds.

Don't have to be an idiot to put Savitar mystery indentity and thread title together.
 

strafer

member
oh my, Caitlin is changing...you could see it in her eyes.

But I cant say it didn't hurt when she said she didn't love them, you could see Cisco was hurt :(
 

rackham

Banned
Someone explain Savitar's birth and motives to me. I watched it and still don't get it. Future Barry created time remnants at some point for some reason? One of them survived from being attacked himself?
halp
 

caliph95

Member
Someone explain Savitar's birth and motives to me. I watched it and still don't get it. Future Barry created time remnants at some point for some reason? One of them survived from being attacked himself?
halp
Barry created time remnants to help in the fight against savitar all of them except IIRc one died and went crazy and then went back in time creating a legend of Savitar and technically being the"first" speedster. He essential wants to ensure a stable time loop.
 

Vengal

Member
Someone explain Savitar's birth and motives to me. I watched it and still don't get it. Future Barry created time remnants at some point for some reason? One of them survived from being attacked himself?
halp

At some point in an original future timeline future Barry gets desperate enough to fling alot of remnants at some big bad. All die but one. Team flash is very mean to that surviving remnant for some reason and it eventually becomes Savitar. Goes on time travel adventures spreading the good name of Savitar throughout the ages creating acolytes all over time.

That's how I'm taking all this, then you add in than, flashpoint, zoom, lefends and others messing with the timeline and things are hard to follow.

I think boiling it down to savitar went to speed force school and figured out a specific trigger which would make Barry behave in a way that creates a remnant that becomes savitar. So savitar is just trying to ensure that happens.
 

Xenoboy

Member
I think we're focusing on the fact that it's the antepenultimate episode a little too much. It's a good, fun episode that if placed somewhere in the middle would probably be looked upon much more kindly.

But it does highlight the misstep of trying to make Savitar's identity the big reveal, especially compared to how Arrow handled it's murderer's mystery this year. The identity of Savitar should never have been made the most interesting thing about the character; how the team figures out how to beat him should have been the focus.

How do you beat a future version of yourself? It's a ridiculous paradox that only a show like this can give you and that's actually really great. Imagine Barry getting amnesia and him spending two episodes like this, it's interesting and if given room to breath can actually speak to what is inside the heart of a hero. That would especially help to counterbalance this evil version of Barry we know is running around.

The parts are all here this season, but it just isn't coming together like it needs to.

I completely agree with you, the episode was very good though and while it's a bummer they made it late, I still think it people shouldn't bee to bullish on it. Next episode looks ace, King Fucking Shark!
 

NeonBlack

Member
So everyone kept moping around even though another Barry showed up to pick up the fight. But when past Barry comes future Cisco literally traps him in the future to help put the team together?

He got the team back together in an hour.....with commercials.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Someone explain Savitar's birth and motives to me. I watched it and still don't get it. Future Barry created time remnants at some point for some reason? One of them survived from being attacked himself?
halp

Barry made time remnants to fight Savitar.
Savitar kills all but 1. That 1 is shunned by team Flash because it's just a copy of The Flash, not the original one, so it starts getting angry and upset and becomes Savitar.
Savitar travels back and forth in time to create his "god of speed" myth, somehow gets a super cool future suit, goes back and terrorizes team Flash, which after 4 years of fighting and losses has Barry start making time remnants to fight Savitar .. rinse and repeat.

His (Savitar's) original appearance, the beginning of the loop, can be attributed to Flashpoint I guess. Basically:


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morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Don't have to be an idiot to put Savitar mystery indentity and thread title together.

Anyone who has come in here upset about spoilers in the thread title has been doing it for the sake of imaginary people.

Who exactly is your hypothetical person that knows enough about Savitar to be spoiled by "It was me, Barry," a thing actually said by the Reverse Flash about an unrelated thing. What level of knowledge about the show do they have?

A person who has seen none of this season isn't spoiled. A person who even hasn't seen the last two episodes isn't spoiled unless they already believed Barry was Savitar by that point.

This hypothetical person actually has more reason to believe that Savitar is HR or another Wells/Eobard based off the thread title.
 

Pics_nao

Member
So wait, why did Time Wraiths come for Zoom in S2 again? He abused the fuck out of time remnants and when Barry does it once wraiths come in and swoop up some assholes? What's stopping them from coming now?
 

caliph95

Member
So wait, why did Time Wraiths come for Zoom in S2 again? He abused the fuck out of time remnants and when Barry does it once wraiths come in and swoop up some assholes? What's stopping them from coming now?
.................... wait why haven't they attack savitar if they know he exists isn't he breaking their rules
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They kinda already did it this episode, every time carefully mentioning that Savitar isnt really Barry.

That and the time remnant was probably summoned in a post-cisco-loosing arms and possibly post-wally-trauma time, when the team exhausted all of their options, Barry probably started making remnants thinking more of him will get the job done.

I imagine the whole team is pretty much mentally fucked by that point and seeing the remnants not able to do anything had them all frustrated.

.................... wait why haven't they attack savitar if they know he exists isn't he breaking their rules

Popular theory is the speed force is allowing this to punish Barry for his transgressions.
 
So if Barry doesn't create a Time Remnant / Savitar during the ultimate fight.. would Wally lose his powers? Since as this episode pointed out, no Savitar no Kid Flash.

Barry: Why don't i just kill myself
Savitar: The Rf is fine plus timetravel plus rules don't really apply if you time travel so much
Barry: Then why do you need me to do stuff for you to exist
Savitar:.........

i'm nitpicking honestly

Barry: Why don't I just kill myself?
Savitar: The rules don't apply to us time abusers, it wouldn't affect me.

*episode goes on to kill Savitar's memories by killing Barry's memories*
 

caliph95

Member
So if Barry doesn't create a Time Remnant / Savitar during the ultimate fight.. would Wally lose his powers? Since as this episode pointed out, no Savitar no Kid Flash.



Barry: Why don't I just kill myself?
Savitar: The rules don't apply to us time abusers, it wouldn't affect me.

*episode goes on to kill Savitar's memories by killing Barry's memories*
*while savitar is planning to create a timeloop by killing iris because time travel affects him*
 
Have Barry put himself in the Speed Force Trap and let Jay out to fight Savitar. At least at that point, Savitar won't be able to use his memory to stop the team.
 
Have Barry put himself in the Speed Force Trap and let Jay out to fight Savitar. At least at that point, Savitar won't be able to use his memory to stop the team.

The Speed Force will get mad at Barry for doing that though.

... Man Speed Force really is the best plot device. Not only does it let you break whatever physics or time shenanigans, but it will even personify itself to tell Barry what to do because reasons.
 

Koomaster

Member
Sorry but when someone tells me not to get something wet, I'm thinking don't dunk it in water. I'm not worried that a bead of sweat is going to destroy the thing. The court scene was pretty funny though so I'll give that a pass. xD

Just hope HR waterproofs the speed bazooka before they turn it on. :D
 
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