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Wonder Woman |OT| The World is Ready for You, Gal Gad [SPOILERS]
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Why would they change it lol??
Volta Mars
Banned
It's her/his opinion...
But I definitely don't agree, Lol. This movie played it safe AF, which isn't a bad thing. But it ultimately (like most Superhero movies) left me pretty bored as the third act approached. Gal Gadot is serviceable as Wonder Woman, I'm sure by the 3rd or 4th film she'll have 10,000 more hrs of acting lessons and will have mastered acting. Chris Pine was funny as Cpt. Kirk. The Villians sucked. And yeah, hope the next film is even better.
I need some time to reflect a bit more and see it a few more times. But right now, in this moment, it's my favorite superhero movie bar none. Lots of flaws, but also far more heart and character than most.
Cringe on.
TheTylerDurden
Member
Was about to say something similar. Minus the see it more aspect. Four times is enough...for now.
So any reason why wonder woman can't be the best super hero movie for him or are we just supposed to have the same taste as Slaythe the neogaf poster?
DecoReturns
Member
I can understand why people consider this their favorite movie. A wonderful superhero film. About a superhero that wants to help people. That's actually pretty rare.
My personal favorite is Batman Begins because I love Bruce's character in that movie and how he want to save his corrupt city.
My personal favorite is Batman Begins because I love Bruce's character in that movie and how he want to save his corrupt city.
Yep, has a lot to do with it. Genuine optimism. The can do attitude is just what I wanted. I mean, there's some weight to it as well.
Some of the bits were clunky. That's fine. I'm not saying it's the best movie I've ever seen. But as a cape flick? Absolutely. I'm going to see it again with my mom when it comes out digitally, she'll love it. I never watch movies more than once anymore.
Yeah, not sure, it's probably just the editing or something, there were a few scenes that didn't quite flow right to me. Nothing catastrophic though.
I still maintain they didn't. Unless I missed a reveal​ somewhere.
Hippolyita asked for the child. Zues gave life to a daughter out of clay. Father / Mother.
The comics have one origin story where there's an affair, but there's nothing suggesting that here.
Laieon
Member
I enjoyed it but definitely feel like the reviews its getting are a little too high. It played it pretty safe, some of the CG and lighting was just not good, and the villain was pretty cheesy. 3rd act was definitely the worst, but I think that's a criticism I tend to have with the vast majority of superhero films. Overall it was a nice popcorn flick and easily the best DCU movie so far.
Logan still reigns supreme as the best superhero movie this year imo, Wonder Woman didn't come close.
Logan still reigns supreme as the best superhero movie this year imo, Wonder Woman didn't come close.
bumpkin
Member
My wife wanted to see this, so I got us tickets and we went Saturday afternoon... It was actually pretty awesome! I had no idea who Gal Gadot was before WW, but man, she is my new female super hero actress crush... Sorry, Scarlett-Jo.
I can definitely say I did not
I can definitely say I did not
see the twist of who ended up being Ares. The general seemed like the obvious but cliche vessel, especially after the things he said while dancing with Diana at the gala. It was funny, my wife commented about how she didn't agree with the choice either. She said that when she thinks of gods, she thinks of big, powerful, hulking beings; not scrawny goofy-looking guys. lol.
Well so this is how it went, my cousin was there when we watched the movie and neither of us really read the comics. In fact I've never really seen a Wonder Woman movie/show until now. So, on our way home, it was one of the things that stuck out to me. Was the clay part a lie just like some other things about her life (such as the sword being the 'god killer') or was the clay part real. But I remember that the mother was oddly specific on how she asked for Diana. She said, "I sculptured you out of clay with my bare hands and ask Zeus to give you life". Probably not 100% word for word but that's what the mother said. So anyway, my cousin and I had a little disagreement over this and I ask him to Google the Canon on what the comics said. He said that it was later changed to the affair thing. It kinda bothered me a little bit if that's true because it makes less sense to me. The clay origin seems much, much more reasonable to me for Wonder Woman to be born from.
Anyway, I really liked the movie though. It was great.
thewaffles
Member
While it isn't near the top of my favorite comic book/superhero movies (I still liked it, but better ones have been made), I think it belongs next to Spider-Man 2 as the two movies that best showcase the heart and spirit of the genre, if that makes sense. And that is a huge win after the first DCEU movies.
I'm reposting this for the new page. Everyone should see this.
Oh my god, this tweet brings me such joy.
https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/874034832430424065
"My producer just sent me this... ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! This makes every hard day worth it. Thank you to whomever wrote it!!"
Link1110
Member
Saw this and dccu finally had a good movie. Villain was pretty jrpg, that was maybe the millionth time I saw that speech about how humans need to be wiped out by the super being cause they're evil. I was disappointed he didn't have a giant one winged angel form. Even God of war depicted ares as a giant stomping around the battlefield
I'll give we herself the benefit of the doubt here since I'm in the middle of a play through, bit the while "I can't ignore people suffering right in front of me" thing was very Yuri Lowell to me. Definitely not a bad thing
Really entertaining movie though. If DC days this good, maybe they can stop being such a Joke at the movies
I'll give we herself the benefit of the doubt here since I'm in the middle of a play through, bit the while "I can't ignore people suffering right in front of me" thing was very Yuri Lowell to me. Definitely not a bad thing
Really entertaining movie though. If DC days this good, maybe they can stop being such a Joke at the movies
Well that is downright fantastic. I can read these stories for hours.
TheTylerDurden
Member
Which was actually a pretty clever use of both origin stories.
Yeah, I liked that touch. Also liked the end when she was taking out Ares she says goobye brother.
Glass Rebel
Member
And this is why representation matters. I hope film execs see this and take notes. Thread worthy tbh.
For me it might be between this, TDK, and Avengers. All three to me have tremendous rewatchability, don't feel their length, and made me want to drag as many people as I could to watch it with me.
I left the first viewing thinking it was a really good film, but it wasn't until I got a huge itch to see it again (and again and again) that I was like 'holy shit this film has a hold on me'. Every repeat viewing has me appreciating and loving it even more.
Watched WW three times so far, and I could watch it again. And this is from someone who usually finds multiple trips to the movies for the same film to be a waste of money lol.
There's just a flow to the film that spans tons of locations, emotional tones, and genres that comes across as effortless, but making it was clearly anything but. The score was fantastic and grand. The characters and casting was a home run. It takes well-worn elements but put them together in a way that just clicked with me and showed me what I love about movies.
I could tell that the film was a immense labor of love from the director and people involved.
Link1110
Member
One thing about ares, I knew something was up with killing him ending all war, especially seeing as how World War II had yet to happen in this world. I seriously didn't think they'd up and say "hitler never happened in this world." Kind of a big foreshadow there that I haven't seen mentioned.
TheTylerDurden
Member
Disagree with most of what you said, but specifically about Gal Gadot's acting. It was her portrayal of this character that the entire film lived or died upon. She did an amazing job. Thoroughly believable and immersive performance. She WAS Wonder Woman in this film, she owned the part, and her passion/conviction came through.
She may not be 'known' as a great actress, but every successful actress has their first standout performance, and this was hers.
Why cringe?
Veelk, since that thread you made got closed:
I volunteered at preschool day cares several times over high school and college and all they DO is talk about movies they've seen and pretend to be the characters. 'Fact, remember us on the playground at 6 years old? We were Anakin Skywalker. We were Spider-Man. We were any one of the hundreds of male heroes onscreen for us to emulate. It's not too much of a stretch at all to think that this ONE movie with a kickass woman in that role for once is having a profound affect on the super-young among us.
I volunteered at preschool day cares several times over high school and college and all they DO is talk about movies they've seen and pretend to be the characters. 'Fact, remember us on the playground at 6 years old? We were Anakin Skywalker. We were Spider-Man. We were any one of the hundreds of male heroes onscreen for us to emulate. It's not too much of a stretch at all to think that this ONE movie with a kickass woman in that role for once is having a profound affect on the super-young among us.
Because this film isn't edgy and doesn't take risks I guess. Ignoring that Gaf was convinced the film would flop, that MOS and BvS were slated for being muddled messes, that MCU gets props for playing it safer than this, and also Gal is skinny lol.
Did I hit all the beats for this to come full circle?
Saw it tonight. It was an alright film, my first watch in the DCverse. The best stuff was in the first half.
Loved the goofy moments and interactions between Diana, Steve, the secretary. The fight between the amazons and the Germans on the beach was great. Lots of good stuff up to and including the bar. I liked the supporting cast as well.
Thought the romance was super unneeded (is this part of the traditional comic origin?). I prefer more fantastical settings and villains so the war setting didn't do much for me. Ares didn't feel like a good twist, wish there had been some more build-up to him. The generic force control he used for half of the fight was lame too.
Loved the goofy moments and interactions between Diana, Steve, the secretary. The fight between the amazons and the Germans on the beach was great. Lots of good stuff up to and including the bar. I liked the supporting cast as well.
Thought the romance was super unneeded (is this part of the traditional comic origin?). I prefer more fantastical settings and villains so the war setting didn't do much for me. Ares didn't feel like a good twist, wish there had been some more build-up to him. The generic force control he used for half of the fight was lame too.
roflwaffles
Member
Saw it tonight, really liked the first half to 2/3rds. However, the third act once Ares is introduced into the plot just plummets into nonsense.
TheTylerDurden
Member
Just FYI, there were no nazis in this film.
Yep you're right, wrong war, thanks! Fixed my post.
If the bombs were on a timer, and timer was to give a pre WW2 prop time to get from Belgium to London, he could have ditched it in the North Sea. It's roughly 341km from belgium to London, more than enough to get it beyond the Netherlands.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
In principle, you're right. In practice, the last time Steve took off in a plane it crashed unexpected and prematurely. The same thing could happen again.
He's taking off from a hardened base from behind enemy lines that would have working telephone lines. One phone call and he's cut off, shot down, and everyone below him dies. Steve's on offense so it's not like he can plot a course free of enemy response. He's not omniscient, in the fog of war, they literally only uncovered this base minutes ago... who knows what lay between him and any course he plotted? For all he knows there's an airstrip a half-mile away ready to chase down his slower vehicle even if he comes back the way he came (the only path he has intel on what's on the ground).
The movie could have taken time out to explain all that, but it would have lost momentum.
The other way you can apply the principle is to say he could have taken more time to plan, experiment, try something else... but all the same / similar arguments applicable to the air work on the ground. Steve still has to hold the plane from enemies for whatever time it takes him to do or think or develop something else... and in the fog of war, he doesn't know if reinforcements are going to arrive from an auxiliary seconds later or what. Heck, there's a tank on this airfield... they were rarely used alone, one could come storming out of a hanger any second!
In that situation, his course of action was rational and plausible. Even if a different, ideal course of action could be conceived of, people make sub-optimal, nonetheless completely reasonable choices all the time.
If he did that, people here would complain he killed the fish.
KarneeKarnay
Member
Probably the best Superhero movie so far this year. I enjoyed pretty much everything.
My only real complaints were about the dialogue. The main characters were fine, the secondary characters though...
The part where Wonder Woman is a girl and she sees the Amazonian women training. The dialogue between the general and her assistant. Only a second the whole thing. It was so poor, it felt like a parody. That was the worst of it and during the rest of the movie it was better. There were still bad moments, just not as bad as the first.
Great film, even if the DC CU fails, Wonder Woman will get a sequal.
My only real complaints were about the dialogue. The main characters were fine, the secondary characters though...
The part where Wonder Woman is a girl and she sees the Amazonian women training. The dialogue between the general and her assistant. Only a second the whole thing. It was so poor, it felt like a parody. That was the worst of it and during the rest of the movie it was better. There were still bad moments, just not as bad as the first.
Great film, even if the DC CU fails, Wonder Woman will get a sequal.
Yeah the opening few minutes were rough, really rough.
Ares pretty much says WWII is coming. He's the God of Truth, not War. Gonna have to listen to that third act again.
Diana's crisis, and Ares main plot is hammering home Man's free will. They do this to themselves.
Inferno313
Banned
I'd say it's probably right up there with Logan for my favorite of this decade so far. Whereas I love Logan for being an interesting subversion of superhero films in a lot of ways, I love Wonder Woman for being one of the purest examples of a traditional superhero film. It's absolutely the best origin story since Batman Begins, imo.