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Immortal Technique
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Totally agree
direct_quote
Member
Combofiend just said in stream magnum can't be reflected, so it sounds like Capcom will pick specific moves that can be reflected (and what not).
shaowebb
Member
Wait...really Capcom? STILL!?!
Arthur still gets hit with a knockdown when his armor runs out and you can't even tag out during this in MVCI to try to remotely deal with it this time around either. Without lvl 3 xfactor theres not much point here. He's still fucked! But hey tag mixups and a dash...at least when Gold Frieza status runs out a minion will shoot at fuckers to cover you if you hit a button in DBFZ.
*mumble grumble*
Arthur still gets hit with a knockdown when his armor runs out and you can't even tag out during this in MVCI to try to remotely deal with it this time around either. Without lvl 3 xfactor theres not much point here. He's still fucked! But hey tag mixups and a dash...at least when Gold Frieza status runs out a minion will shoot at fuckers to cover you if you hit a button in DBFZ.
*mumble grumble*
Karsticles
Member
Using the Time gem to get solo Arthur mix-up is solid, but the knockdown off of armor is hilarious. Has anyone tried refreshing it?
MiniBossBattle
Member
Bought a switch looking forward to MH, get told it's not coming to USA. At least we might get a PS4 version finally.
Son Frieza is a scumbag who plays dirty... Arthur is a honorable knight and a masochist.
That's not a legit thing in this game at all... the recovery on the time gem teleport is really high. That was the first thing I tried in this game too.
Of course right now people are going to get confused/mixed up by that but if my old ass, no reflexes/execution/skill can react to that then pro players are going to punish that all day. You really use it for hang time, some mobility and getting out of corner situations when the opponent doesn't suspect it and in that stuff it does it work fine.
Also the teleport dash counts towards your air actions so you can't do stuff like multiple dashes and then three time gem dashes as well.
Just buy it off the JP eshop. Timr to level up that vocabulary.
Capcom clarified "no plans at this time". So who knows. Its so Capcom to ignore the entry people want on the Switch because they are worried it will take away from their western focused PS4/Xbox game.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
It needs to be said that meter is not easy to get in Mvci. Doing specials, blocking moves, and wiffing moves does not build you meter. You ONLY get meter if you hit someone or get hit. Really really weird decision. I don't think there has ever been a fighter where you only build meter with hits.
Gunslinger
Member
what's the entry number for SFV in CEO this year? I am curious to see how big the drop(if any) from last year.
Super Smash Bros. Wii-U – 605 entrants
Street Fighter V ($15,000 pot bonus) – 539 entrants
Injustice 2 ($20,000 pot bonus) – 392 entrants
Super Smash Bros. Melee – 290 entrants
Tekken 7 ($10,000 pot bonus) – 241 entrants
Guilty Gear XRD Revelator 2 – 146 entrants
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 – 137 entrants
Pokken Tournament ($5,000 pot bonus) – 123 entrants
Killer Instinct ($5,000 pot bonus) – 75 entrants
BlazBlue: Central Fiction – 74 entrants
The King of Fighters XIV – 65 entrants
2016 numbers:
907 Super Smash Bros for Wii U
821 Street Fighter V
683 Super Smash Bros Melee
256 Pokkén Tournament
256 Tekken 7: Fated Retribution
201 Mortal Kombat XL
175 Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR-
163 Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
122 Ultra Street Fighter IV
112 Killer Instinct: Season 3
Such a huge drop in attendance. And it isn't restricted to one or two games, all had lower turnouts. Have any idea on the pot bonus last year?
Akuma (and I assume Eliza) in Tekken 7 only get meter with hits as well. Or maybe they also get with blocks, but I haven't noticed.
Akuma (and I assume Eliza) in Tekken 7 only get meter with hits as well. Or maybe they also get with blocks, but I haven't noticed.
MiniBossBattle
Member
My Japanese is D-tier. Like child mixed with Borat accent tier.
Gunslinger
Member
Ma man DahBomb always with the FGC news on deck. But yeah looks like FGs in general are dropping in numbers. I guess going to tournaments have lost its "wow" factor and it's now normalizing.
direct_quote
Member
So do people think invitationals will be future then? With fewer open tournaments?
How future are we talking about here?
The end game is basically there are tournaments open to public that pros don't actually play in because they have already qualified for the bigger tournaments (they have better seeds). These smaller tournaments have the lesser players advance to bigger qualifiers and so on. And then it all culminates in grand slam type tournaments.
Like in the far, far future if fighting games are mega huge E sports, you are not going to have situations where Daigo is playing some random nobody who just started playing the game first time ever at a tournament. That's not how it works in professional sports either. That random nobody first has to win in open qualifiers before entering into the professional circuit. In fact, that's how it is in the big MOBA games too... me and 4 other buddies can't just make a DOTA 2 and start playing in the International qualifiers. We have to start from the ground up.
The end game is that these open tournaments where everyone is on the same playing field would eventually be extinct. Of course there is a big appeal to rubbing shoulders with your favorite pro players but if this gets bigger then open tournaments get pushed to the side for bigger tournament with more rigorous qualifiers to weed out the scrubs from the pros so that in the big tournaments it's just pros vs pros.
Though in this reality, the average fighting game set is also much longer. Like sets that span at least 30-40 minutes to an hour so that they can be broadcast as main events sort of like Tennis matches. The 2/3 and 3/5 only work in open tournament style tournaments because you have to play a large number of matches but when you have a fewer number of pro players you can easily have longer sets.
Of course this reality is very far from now, open tournaments are still here to stay for a very long time.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
Nope. Akuma gains meter on block or when he blocks.
Immortal Technique
Member
Are you basing this hypothesis on one data point? Like.. what about Combo Breaker, wasn't really down in entries, right?
ColonialHawk
Member
Yeah I think spacing of tournaments is a big factor. Like Combo Breaker was just a few weeks ago (and did well in numbers) and E3 is right now with CEO this weekend, and EVO is just a few weeks away now.
Its tough for non-professional players to travel to that many events.
Okay. When I whiffed attacks I didn't get meter but I was probably too focused on what was going in during blocking to see if I gained meter.
I think EVO also suffered from drops in some games? Or at least no significant increase.
You can literally do this. There are open qualifiers for The International.
I can't help but think it's going to be hard to increase numbers to afford the new venue that is a hour away and is probably more expensive.
This first Dragonball volume is, uh, weird.
tbh you don't need to be able to read Japanese to play it. Kiranico will have full walthroughs and such.
tbh you don't need to be able to read Japanese to play it. Kiranico will have full walthroughs and such.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Removing the pedophilia and keeping the good fighting game mechanics was definitely the way to go.
ShinMaruku
Member
I would refer to ceo regressing to the mean which is fine since the current venue is excellent nobody wants to drive to goddamn Daytona...
notworksafe
Member
ceo's new venue is in daytona? lmao no thanks
ShinMaruku
Member
Exactly why I don't feel roo bad about the decline. Driving to Daytona is no fun.
notworksafe
Member
rename the event CED lol
MiniBossBattle
Member
Isn't Daytona sketchy?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
The venue for next year's CEO is supposed to be nice, but there's no way I'd be able to afford to spend 2-3 nights there.
Not to mention the time spent on goddamned I-4.
Not to mention the time spent on goddamned I-4.
ShinMaruku
Member
Probably how he got a good deal on a venue.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/daytona-beach/crime
This is the first result for "Daytona crime rates" I pulled up.
Yeah, it's not the best place to be.
ShinMaruku
Member
I get the feeling Daytona might have a drop in attendence.
Jebailey rented out a 9000 seat arena for Daytona. He better hope not there's a continued drop in attendance next year.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I don't see how.
Numbers are down everywhere this year. I expect 2018 to see a similar decrease in attendance, unless MVCI and DBZF turn out to be ridiculously popular.
Tizoc
Member
Keep in mind that Toriyama made it up as he went along. The manga was mainly about Goku and Bulma's adventures to find the Dragon balls, and it was inspired by Journey to the West. Following the end of the first arc
it goes into a Tourney arc which is pretty good itself, before going back to Goku going on an adventure to collect the Dragon balls again
ShinMaruku
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Given the past few events, we can say he probably whiffed on his growth unless he knows what is happening next year.
_/¯For the smash games, there was another Smash only CEO event few weeks ago that split the attendees. For FGC Combo Breaker(rightfully so) have took CEO's place as the best none EVO tournament.
ShinMaruku
Member
Dbz will be out long enough for people not to be bout that life.