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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

Seyavesh

Member
I've complained about this before, but the button mapping is such a damn mess in this game. It's like the designers assigned attack commands by putting on a blindfold and throwing darts at a board. The angled Proton Cannon should use the standard anti-air input, the Shin Shoryuken should use the punch buttons, and so on. Getting rid of LMHS is a massive downgrade. The special moves and hyper combos were so sensibly assigned in MvC3. I'll get over it with time, but it's such an ugly change.

it's a really capcom-like style of design where things are done for the sake of simplification without really any strong logic towards the "why" or "how"- it's not really 'bad' but it's just... not elegant?

see: drive being on million stabs or the entire deal w/ down down
 

Ryce

Member
it's a really capcom-like style of design where things are done for the sake of simplification without really any strong logic towards the "why" or "how"
But they're not even simpler -- I'd argue that these commands are much more complicated. They're certainly more convoluted.
 

Seyavesh

Member
But they're not even simpler -- I'd argue that these commands are much more complicated. They're certainly more convoluted.

the big thing is that everything is a quarter circle or down-down- there's nothing besides those which is what the simplification goal is. it's pretty likely the punch/kick control scheme is very specifically done to fulfill this end as well b/c boy howdy that magic series makes no goddamn sense feeling wise for beginners

overall that's kinda what i mean by not having any elegance or strong logic- things are mostly just placed here and there to fulfill that specific goal or not interfere w/ it
 

Pompadour

Member
I've complained about this before, but the button mapping is such a damn mess in this game. It's like the designers assigned attack commands by putting on a blindfold and throwing darts at a board. The angled Proton Cannon should use the standard anti-air input, the Shin Shoryuken should use the punch buttons, and so on. Getting rid of LMHS is a massive downgrade. The special moves and hyper combos were so sensibly assigned in MvC3. I'll get over it with time, but it's such an ugly change.

LMHS was the best change going from 2 to 3 and it's a bummer they switched back.
 

Seyavesh

Member
I would be happy to accept Capcom's check

I am a very popular #influencer

my price is very cheap, just pay me the 90 dollars for the game or however much is the full value of all the dlc chars

here's a preview of my high quality service:

Marvel Versus Capcom Infinite™ feels really great! i don't know what these other guys are talking about, but the game looks fantastic with that brand new Unreal Engine 4™ technology- almost like i'm watching Avengers: Age of Ultron™! not only is the game accessible and easy to play, it still is hard to master for longtime fans and keeps all the qualities and characters you love from previous games like Captain America™! personally, i've already pre-ordered the Deluxe Edtion of Marvel Versus Capcom Infinite™ so i can get those sweet, sweet DLC characters like Black Panther™ and Sigma™!
i'm so hyped. it's MAHVEL™ baby


hire me capcom
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
All these shills coming out of the woodwork, just how many people is capcom paying off????

Why do you think the game's budget is so low? They spent the majority buying these people off!
 

sinkfla87

Member
I know it's being joked about and I don't believe all the pros who like the game are complete shills but Justin Wong man... Haha! He hilariously shills for shit all the time.
One thing to remember is they're not lying when they say they don't get paid to promote stuff on Twitter, they're just given a bunch of free shit by the companies :p. I'm going to start calling him Bud-Light Man. His powers are he shows up to parties with pisswater.

I wonder if anyone knows this reference:
"But then, I was broke and I needed it more. But now that I'm rich, I get free coffee."
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
nothing out of CEO yet? I need more pro matches fam.

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LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
Was the Zip leak days before the E3 Story trailer?

Grandmaster Meio and the big Monster Hunter worm monster being in the list give it a lot of validity, even tho they might just be bosses.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Low key desk been holding us down for many Capcom game releases now. Can't wait to see what he does when he gets his hands on the new Hawkeye.

Interesting that Cap's counter works on beams.

Chun-Li got short hop combos WHEW

Thor looks like a completely different character with the hammer toss and the move that replaces his beam.

I'm going to assume they read this reddit thread. As mentioned by direct_quote, it would not have any real benefit.
This is the stupidest shit I've ever read.

Im pretty sure it was from their Day One at E3 video when Jason was around. It was either there or from their Sealed Envelope Podcast. Dont remember which, I was just listening to it while at work last night. Id post a link if I can find it.
I skimmed through GiantBomb's Day One stuff and there wasn't anything about MvC:I. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just echoing some of the reddit rumours that postulated S3 being X-Men. I'm gonna go check now.

FChamp talks about Marvel Infinite with Born Free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39pF6-b7LFA
Damn. FChamp saying the gameplay is an upgrade from UMvC3, saying Yipes and LI Joe are ecstatic about it too. He says he told Ono about Dante's model too.

Also reiterating that simultaneous highs and lows result in an autoblock. Good explanation of some of the mechanics in here too, I understand the 2 bar counter switch better now.

They also say most pros are saying that DBZF comparatively is lacking some layer of depth with the gameplay thus far 💅🏽

So many characters got buffed, this is insane. Like someone took the "make everyone OP" thing seriously.

https://twitter.com/FluxedOver/status/875828406885257216

But for real tho, with how flexible the tag system is, it seems to be the evolution of assist.
This is interesting because Flux is saying it feels better than the demo, not just looks. Perhaps some of the looseness and latency is gone that might have made it's way into the Story demo build?

I really like that everyone has a level 3 hyper. It reminds me of TvC.
Shame most of them are so uncreative or samey. Toss someone into the air and hit them with some energy; a lot feel like level 1s. One of the bigger disappointments about MvC:I for me, because the ones in UMvC3 were creative and memorable as hell.
 

Skab

Member
Was the Zip leak days before the E3 Story trailer?

Grandmaster Meio and the big Monster Hunter worm monster being in the list give it a lot of validity, even tho they might just be bosses.

The original upload was something like 8 days before the story trailer was shown.

Dah'ren Mohran being listed and then popping up in the trailer is a huge tip off to it being real, imo. Such a random ass monster to try and stick into a fake list, you know?
 
Is black panther on the list? If not then can we say that besides a huge unplayable boss and the minions, everyone on list is on the launch roster?
 
I've complained about this before, but the button mapping is such a damn mess in this game. It's like the designers assigned attack commands by putting on a blindfold and throwing darts at a board. The angled Proton Cannon should use the standard anti-air input, the Shin Shoryuken should use the punch buttons, and so on. Getting rid of LMHS is a massive downgrade. The special moves and hyper combos were so sensibly assigned in MvC3. I'll get over it with time, but it's such an ugly change.

I remember when MvC3 first came out, a lot of people were complaining about the 6 button controls being changed to LMHS. People were saying it dumbed down the game and made combos brainless and stuff like that.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Is black panther on the list? If not then can we say that besides a huge unplayable boss and the minions, everyone on list is on the launch roster?
No, because we know Sigma is DLC and he has a folder.

A file just means there's a model that's (presumably) being used in the story, not necessarily launch roster or even in a playable state.
 

LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
The original upload was something like 8 days before the story trailer was shown.

Dah'ren Mohran being listed and then popping up in the trailer is a huge tip off to it being real, imo. Such a random ass monster to try and stick into a fake list, you know?

That and the Grandmaster are the biggest tip offs. Similar to the jobbers/SigmaUltron, they show up in the list as they'll be fightable in the story, but not playable. Based on this list, who's the supposed DLC characters outside of Panther/Sigma?
 

sinkfla87

Member
More people than they're paying to model Chunli.

Daaaaamn lol. Maybe whoever designed her doesn't like Bud Light?

That and the Grandmaster are the biggest tip offs. Similar to the jobbers/SigmaUltron, they show up in the list as they'll be fightable in the story, but not playable. Based on this list, who's the supposed DLC characters outside of Panther/Sigma?

Well Venom is on the list in the .zip leak but not on Ryce's and it's been rumored that he's DLC at some point. Winter Soldier is on there too and it would make sense for him to be S1 DLC since he's a newcomer.
 
That and the Grandmaster are the biggest tip offs. Similar to the jobbers/SigmaUltron, they show up in the list as they'll be fightable in the story, but not playable. Based on this list, who's the supposed DLC characters outside of Panther/Sigma?

Venom and Frank West I imagine also would be on that list. I believe Venom has been brought up, and Ryce speculated that Frank would be on the base roster (tho it turned out to be Zero).
Otherwise it may be anyone. I could easily see them doing Winter Soldier, for instance.
 
That and the Grandmaster are the biggest tip offs. Similar to the jobbers/SigmaUltron, they show up in the list as they'll be fightable in the story, but not playable. Based on this list, who's the supposed DLC characters outside of Panther/Sigma?

I'd say Winter Soldier is the only other possibility.

It's all-new, so guys like Dorm, Haggar, Venom, and Ghost Rider are likely in the base. Or NPC in the story.

Ryce said Ant-Man is in the base and he's not on that list.

Everything is incomplete.
 

kirblar

Member
That and the Grandmaster are the biggest tip offs. Similar to the jobbers/SigmaUltron, they show up in the list as they'll be fightable in the story, but not playable. Based on this list, who's the supposed DLC characters outside of Panther/Sigma?
Definitely Winter Soldier. Outside of that? Hard to tell.
 

LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
I'd say Winter Soldier is the only other possibility.

It's all-new, so guys like Dorm, Haggar, Venom, and Ghost Rider are likely in the base. Or NPC in the story.

Ryce said Ant-Man is in the base and he's not on that list.

Everything is incomplete.

Haggar makes sense as there's no grapplers in any lists. Ant-Man being DLC is likely I'd say, as they're supposed to be 'new MVC characters'.

DLC - Winter Soldier, Sigma, Black Panther, Ant Man, Death, ...??? Maybe Venom as he's a 'new' 3D model?
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
if anyone from that zip list is just a story mode model, its Death to be honest. Judging purely from her comic appearances of course.
 

Ryce

Member
I'm actually kind of excited to see what happens with the roster. I'm not going to be happy with the end result either way (no X-Men, no Doom, no Wesker, et cetera), but I'm curious to see if 28 is the final number or if there are more characters as suggested by the file leak, and I wonder if my source has base Ant-Man and DLC Venom mixed up somehow.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
That and the Grandmaster are the biggest tip offs. Similar to the jobbers/SigmaUltron, they show up in the list as they'll be fightable in the story, but not playable. Based on this list, who's the supposed DLC characters outside of Panther/Sigma?
I think the best guess is Ant-Man and The Winter Soldier are the remaining Marvel DLC characters, and maybe Meio (I'm skeptical) and Hunter as capcom DLC characters. The rest of the characters (i.e. Haggar, Dormammu, Venom, etc.) would be base.

IIRC IntelliHeath or a junior member posted a pretty good educated guess at what the base and DLC would be like maybe 10 pages back.
 
I honestly think Death will be a NPC. She doesn't actually fight. She's Thanos' love obsession.

The only way I see all-new applying to Venom is if they go with Agent Venom.

Since the Venom comic is an MVC variant and Brock is Venom again, I see him being in the base.

The Symbiote soldiers and the Symbiote huge monster will probably what you'll have to fight before Venom.
 

Skab

Member
Haggar makes sense as there's no grapplers in any lists. Ant-Man being DLC is likely I'd say, as they're supposed to be 'new MVC characters'.

DLC - Winter Soldier, Sigma, Black Panther, Ant Man, Death, ...??? Maybe Venom as he's a 'new' 3D model?

That's 4 Marvel, 1 Capcom, and one ??? though. Would be more likely that they make it 3/3, right? If so then my guess would be:

Sigma
Grandmaster
???

Black Panther
Death
Winter Soldier

Unless Death is just part of the story, then you could swap her for Ant-Man.
 
I honestly think Death will be a NPC. She doesn't actually fight. She's Thanos' love obsession.

The only way I see all-new applying to Venom is if they go with Agent Venom.

Since the Venom comic is an MVC variant and Brock is Venom again, I see him being in the base.

The Symbiote soldiers and the Symbiote huge monster will probably what you'll have to fight before Venom.
They gave Phoenix Wright a moveset...
 
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