chaosblade
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So Eternal Collection is digital only on consoles? I was thinking about picking it up but I'll just pass if that's the case.
I believe they have also ran a sale on the starcraft nova pack which was a set of missions as well.And again yes they did less than a month ago orso and they will do it again.
Druid does seem more likely, there isn't really another class similar to druid in the way that the D3 classes take some inspiration from the D2 classes . They also name drop Skovos with the implication that something has happened there which could've hinted at an Amazon return but who knows if that was ever anything more than a fun reference. They've also had a Necro NPC in the game for a long time, since release even I think? Hard to say what they might've done.
Druid would be a hybrid summoner-melee class or something like that? I can't actually recall how it is in Diablo 2, never played that game very extensively.
Amazon as it is probably wouldn't be a viable class as they're female-only i think?
Druids we're basically three classes in one. Elemental ranged damage, shapeshifting melee or a pet class.
Considering all of the free support they've given the game, I'd hardly call this being greedy, anyway.
When you pay 40 or 60 dollars for a Diablo game up front, that comes with the promise that they are also supporting it with content patches every so often, as they do with every other game they release. It's why their games typically have so much value, because they foster a healthy online environment by carefully providing additional gameplay and curating things like leaderboards and seasons. It's not some act of charity on their behalf, this is how it was in D2, they'd release a patches with items and monsters and maintain a competitive online environment for players. There was no one saying "man I wish I could throw money their way for this!" because they already had.
No one buys a Blizzard game thinking "this is the final version of the game", they buy it knowing that a year down the road Blizzard will still be adding little things to it to keep it relatively fresh.
Fascinating Blizzard drone feedback
This steam port begging is annoying, why is this allowed?! Not every game has to be on steamStill not on steam? Pass.
This has to be a joke post.An entire new class is not some map pack. How can some of you say that 15 dollars is to much?
It's a new freaking class. If you're invested in the game, that is a lot of gameplay that is potentially interesting to you. On the other hand, its not locked behind new areas or story which forces you to pay for a class you're not interested in.
IMO a new class could easily be 20-30 dollars given the amount of hours that went into RnD and prepreduction, design, animtion, effects, ui, testing and qa. A staggering amount of people are usually involved to bring a new class to lie, and it takes the work of nearly every department from sound engineering to networking to programming to get a new class to work. You're talking about many thousands of collaborative work.
This is not like some minor thing that a bunch of map designers or modellers conjured up in a few weeks. A new class is a big deal. 15 dollars is a very competitive price.
Now, I've not tried the class, so I cannot speak to its quality in specific, but generally speaking you get a new class in a 40-60 dollars expansion and that is seen as a major feature. So it's hard for me to see how 15 is too much.
Fascinating Blizzard drone feedback
This has to be a joke post.
I think you need to check mods or other games if you really think the price is fair.
If Blizzard would enable the modding tools like they did in Starcraft, you would have 10 more classes for free years ago from the community for free.
Lol at the hyperbole here. It's 15 bucks, not a mortgage payment. That's less than a visit to the cinema.This gets the award for one of the shittiest DLC values of all time. It's like you need to take a cold shower and think about what you've done after you buy it.
When you pay 40 or 60 dollars for a Diablo game up front, that comes with the promise that they are also supporting it with content patches every so often, as they do with every other game they release. It's why their games typically have so much value, because they foster a healthy online environment by carefully providing additional gameplay and curating things like leaderboards and seasons. It's not some act of charity on their behalf, this is how it was in D2, they'd release a patches with items and monsters and maintain a competitive online environment for players. There was no one saying "man I wish I could throw money their way for this!" because they already had.
No one buys a Blizzard game thinking "this is the final version of the game", they buy it knowing that a year down the road Blizzard will still be adding little things to it to keep it relatively fresh.
You could say literally any game could allow modding. Starcraft didn't have strong 'modding tools' built into the game, it had a powerful map editor and unit editor but that's not the same thing either. If any post is a joke it's the notion that somehow not having a built in way for people to create their own classes is somehow some crazy thing that every game has except for Diablo 3.
This gets the award for one of the shittiest DLC values of all time. It's like you need to take a cold shower and think about what you've done after you buy it.
Remember when Blizzard games had expansion packs like:
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Starcraft: Brood War
Hell, even Diablo III had Reaper of Souls.
But I guess now the way forward is Activision Call of Duty style DLC for games instead of the classic Blizzard expansion pack. $15 for a new class, yikes. It was only $30 for Reaper of Souls at release.
This post is just dripping with entitlement.
The game got tons of support that wasn't guaranteed or promised, regardless of what they had done for past titles. Realistically they owe you nothing after the base content for free.
There is nothing wrong with their pricing here.
RoS came with one long Act(the biggest by far), one additional character and the new Adventure mode(that beats having to do the campaign over and over again) which I'm pretty sure is not accessible with the original game. I think it was worth it at that price.
i think it's kind of expensive (i thought maybe it would be $10 but did expect $15) but i'll buy it anyway because i'm a sucker
well technically they owed us PvP because that was supposed to be in the so-called "base content" but was delayed to hit the ship date. we then got brawling as a placeholder but nothing else after that
well technically they owed us PvP because that was supposed to be in the so-called "base content" but was delayed to hit the ship date. we then got brawling as a placeholder but nothing else after that
It's a shame all the acts in D3 were terrible.
Adventure mode was worth the price of admission for RoS, though.
Price sounds fine, I cant believe how cheap some people are being.
Oh wow they still haven't added it properly? Crazy since PvP is possibly the biggest reason D2 did and still does have such an active community for so long. People weren't farming to maximize Baal runs, they were doing it to get the gear required to survive an extra hammer or fireball or bone spear.
"I think the challenge, and what we're trying to find, is that Diablo III feels great moment-to-moment because it's a game that's really built around one player versus a horde of monsters. So there's a lot of [area of effect], a lot of control abilities, and the combat really works. But when it's put into player-versus-player, it really stresses those systems. We're experimenting. We're trying to figure out the right combination of things so that, at one point, we'll be able to say, 'Here we are!' That's going to be a really happy day for the community, and for the team as well."
Act 1 has its moments, at least early. Act 4 isn't terrible either but that's largely attributed to its length.
Act 5 is probably the only one I'd call good though.
PoEs new content is cool, but face it. Everyone's going to run it once then just plow through it asap to get to mapping. At least D3 cuts out the BS and just lets you go straight to rifts/bounties in seasons.
Let's really face it. Everyone is just going to power level to 70 and get all of their gear within a few hours and finish the season challenges.
"Blizzard Drone" - sorry, but LOTS of people don't enjoy Path of Exile. Diablo 3 is a fantastic game, the notion that someone would prefer it (seemingly many people) being reduced to "LOL blizz drone" is ridiculous. Could just as easily call you a PoE drone, it would be just as pedantic then.
Call me when PoE actually becomes fun to play.
yeah, it's a shame that Diablo 3 PvP is most likely dead and probably will never happen. People kept bugging them about it over the years and they'd respond once in a while saying they would talk about it in meetings and stuff but getting things into a mode that they find fun was hard.
Josh Mosqueira, then-game director in August 2013
i'm assuming they've stopped even trying to figure it out or experimenting with anything by now
I don't like PoE and I don't understand people who do. The visuals are a poor mans attempt at modern Diablo 2 aesthetic with god awful textures, and the gameplay is floaty.
Till Diablo 3 every Blizzard game was moddable and SC modding tool was good enough to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L9lUDntnY4
Blizzard has even talked about full marketplace for mods in SC back in the day and great focus on improving their current SC modding tools. If they follow this idea and pass it to Diablo this DLC would be laughable.
So they are adding new locations with this.
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20845161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRWZXi5YvI
Now that I factor in that and the other added things in the patch they didn't include in the paid necro pack, the $15 price for necro doesn't seem that bad.
All three of these new areas are coming in Patch 2.6.0, completely free to all players with the Reaper of Souls expansion pack or Ultimate Evil Edition of Diablo III.
Why would you justify the $15 price with areas that are free and not included with the Necromancer pack?
It'd be funny if the thread preceding it wasn't also filled with wacky rationalizations.
The way the game is built non-narrative zones probably have to be free for all. Also, this draws players that don't want to buy the pack back in, and they get to see the new class in action.
Making new zones isn't something that's done for free, people are paying for the cost of these zones with the Necromancer pack regardless of the fact that they're separate.
So Eternal Collection is digital only on consoles? I was thinking about picking it up but I'll just pass if that's the case.