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Carrier moving Trump jobs to Mexico

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jelly

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Stinkles said:
The frustrating thing about this lady was that she was more thoroughly owned than anyone in history, but didn't budge an inch. In fact I bet she went Double MAGA after this.

She was basically like, "Yes, my premise is 100% false and you proved that I should believe the opposite and I agree with your facts, but I am sticking with my racism."
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Trump card 'Racism'

It hurts watching people be so clueless, told the truth and still nope, don't care, don't see it.
 
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hawk2025

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darkinstinct said:
Looks like this was expected:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rs-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.html

Basically Trump saved 800 job from moving to Mexico but another 1400 were not saved. Weird deal. You'd think a deal would go like "Hey you have 2400 people in Indianapolis, if you keep them you will get money".
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This is so damn irrelevant.

It is NOT the fucking job of the president to play favorites and subsidize specific companies.

Goddamn, people, fucking hell.

Republicans pretending to care about "free markets" -- fuck the hell off.
 
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malfcn

Member
Much like "passing" the ahca, he "saved" jobs. They just make an effort to get a positive headline hoping to ride things out or deflect from current events.
 
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Joeytj

Banned
ghostofsparta said:
I wonder if his supporters will be upset at the corporation, Trump, or at Mexicans....who I am kidding we know who they are upset at
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They'll just blame Carrier, not Trump. They will, indeed, say "Trump tried!"

Trump gave them $7 million dollars to stay in Indiana and it was all for nothing, but yeah, Trump tried!

Obama actually saved the auto industry, but hey, Trump tried!
 
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chicken_pasta

Banned
Stinkles said:
The frustrating thing about this lady was that she was more thoroughly owned than anyone in history, but didn't budge an inch. In fact I bet she went Double MAGA after this.

She was basically like, "Yes, my premise is 100% false and you proved that I should believe the opposite and I agree with your facts, but I am sticking with my racism."
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Got a video?
 
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WhiteRabbitEXE

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NullPointer said:
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Stinkles said:
The frustrating thing about this lady was that she was more thoroughly owned than anyone in history, but didn't budge an inch. In fact I bet she went Double MAGA after this.

She was basically like, "Yes, my premise is 100% false and you proved that I should believe the opposite and I agree with your facts, but I am sticking with my racism."
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So what's the story here? Link?
 
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nocturnalis

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reggieandTFE said:
What happened here?
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A Grizzly Bear said:
Where is this from? Sounds like an interesting and depressing watch.
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WhiteRabbitEXE said:
So what's the story here? Link?
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Jimmy Kimmel had a segment on his show in 2013 where he interviewed people about Obamacare. They didn't like Obamacare but loved the ACA. This is from a follow-up last year where this lady shits all over Obamacare and the .gif comes from when the interviewer tells her that Obamacare = ACA.
 
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

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Lmao. Didn't Ford do the same thing recently? Its like they don't care about the threats from Trump. He said he would slap a 35% tax on companies that do this, lol
 
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sturgboski

Member
nocturnalis said:
Jimmy Kimmel had a segment on his show in 2013 where he interviewed people about Obamacare. They didn't like Obamacare but loved the ACA. This is from a follow-up last year where this lady shits all over Obamacare and the .gif comes from when the interviewer tells her that Obamacare = ACA.
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Oh man there's a Facebook post (or some social media post) with the same thing. Some guy got super excited about Obamacare going away and how that would save ACA or something.
 
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slider

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Kaiterra said:
Considering he publicly attacked the union heads and was all nicey nice with the owners, not really sure why anyone should've ever had that perception.
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Heh, it was a casual glance from an outsider.

Had a vague recollection about tariffs. Oh well.
 
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FyreWulff

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RPGCrazied said:
Lmao. Didn't Ford do the same thing recently? Its like they don't care about the threats from Trump. He said he would slap a 35% tax on companies that do this, lol
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Like I said, they were afraid of him before he basically showed how ineffective he is at getting legislation passed, and his approval rating tanked. when you're as low as he is your political leverage for public stuff pretty much tanks.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
CrocMother said:
I wonder who those workers vote for in 2020
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These guys got laid off.

But Trump keeps bragging about how he saved all those Carrier jobs.

And since Trump never lies, that means these guys never lost their jobs.

Checkmate, libtard.
 
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Foffy

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Anyone who didn't think this was coming is dropping into this planet through another universe.

The tax breaks are not to keep jobs: they're to invest in automation.

If Carrier's goal is have costs match or even decrease from that of Mexican workers...well, what's lower than that other than the negation of human capital itself...?
 
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Frozenprince

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Man and we had a 10 page thread for this too when it was announced cause all the Trump fans immediately post election came out to gloat and shit.

Funny how they've fucking vanished since.
 
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Man-is-Obsolete

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If you hear Trump is "saving jobs" what it really means is that CEOs are going to make more money, and that money will be used for self interest or automation or further outsourcing to improve profits.
 
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NullPointer

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Let us not forget this:

Trump Twitter said:
I am the only one who can fix this. Very sad. Will not happen under my watch! #MakeAmericaGreatAgain
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Or this:

Washington Post: He ‘lied his a– off': Carrier union leader on Trump's big deal

Or this:

Bloomberg said:
The union offered concessions amounting to a third of the $65 million a year Carrier expected to save by moving. Indiana then-Governor Mike Pence and Democratic Senator Joe Donnelly met separately with Carrier and UTC executives. Pence told RTV6 of Indianapolis that the ”rising tide of red tape" in Washington made it impossible for Carrier to keep the plant running.

Donnelly says he asked Carrier executive Nelson and Robert McDonough, who runs UTC's Climate, Controls & Security division, to cite one regulation that figured in the decision. ”They couldn't," he says. The executives did confirm that furnaces sent to the U.S. from Mexico would have to comply with the same rules. The company later told the union that regulatory costs didn't figure into expected savings from the move.

”This is about Carrier chasing wages at $3 an hour," Donnelly says. ”They put together a $16 billion stock buyback and just went wherever they could to try to pick up a few extra pennies."
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Tovarisc

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Layoffs announced for first time at Boeing's 787 Dreamliner campus, other North Charleston operations
Boeing Co. on Thursday announced layoffs affecting fewer than 200 workers at its 787 Dreamliner campus and other operations in North Charleston, the first involuntary separations at the facilities since the aerospace giant moved to South Carolina in 2009.

The job cuts are part of a company-wide effort to reduce costs in Boeing's commercial airplane division to better compete with France-based rival Airbus. While thousands of Boeing workers in Washington state have lost their jobs since the cost-cutting program was announced in December, the layoffs had not impacted North Charleston employees until now.

"We are all aware of the need to be more competitive in a relentlessly challenging industry," Joan Robinson-Berry, vice president and general manager of Boeing South Carolina, told employees in a memo Thursday morning. "Our competitors do not rest in their drive to win sales campaigns and neither can we. ... While we understand the business need, it doesn't make this action any easier."

Boeing would not provide a specific number of layoffs, with the memo stating only that it will be "fewer than 200."
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http://www.postandcourier.com/busin...cle_05e36a64-573f-11e7-bd09-2fe3c806b828.html

This is the plant that Trump visited. Dude has real golden touch.

All sourced from https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/878018942824050689
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
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Shadow Puppetry

Member
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Mexico was just ranked the second deadliest country in the world, after only Syria. Drug trade is largely the cause. We will BUILD THE WALL!

Someone's butthurt.
 
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Chaos2Frozen

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It has taken a few months but we have finally come full circle with these "Trump bullies companies to save jobs!" Stories.

Voters got played~
 
Wag

Wag

Member
Moral of the story: It's good to be a union member.

I'm sure the republicans are thrilled about that.
 
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NullPointer

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So, these tax breaks, ostensibly to keep US jobs in the US, but now directed at automation - are these automated solutions created and managed in the US?

I couldn't find details of that investment. And on the few occasions where Trump has been asked about automation he's said that if jobs are going to be replaced by robots he'd make sure the robots were made here in the US. Makes me wonder how that's going.
 
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Dai101

Banned
NullPointer said:
So, these tax breaks, ostensibly to keep US jobs in the US, but now directed at automation - are these automated solutions created and managed in the US?

I couldn't find details of that investment. And on the few occasions where Trump has been asked about automation he's said that if jobs are going to be replaced by robots he'd make sure the robots were made here in the US. Makes me wonder how that's going.
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Wouldn't hold my breath..
 
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GoldenEye 007

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NullPointer said:
So, these tax breaks, ostensibly to keep US jobs in the US, but now directed at automation - are these automated solutions created and managed in the US?

I couldn't find details of that investment. And on the few occasions where Trump has been asked about automation he's said that if jobs are going to be replaced by robots he'd make sure the robots were made here in the US. Makes me wonder how that's going.
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I believe so in part. There is a bit of manufacturing coming back to the US for sure. But it's advanced manufacturing.

So yeah a factory may return, but it may only need a handful of employees for operations plus additional technical skillsets/training/degrees. It's cheaper to build here with basically no labor force than to even pay the pennies for labor overseas + the cost of importing/shipping. I know NPR had a good piece about it awhile ago.
 
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