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[luulubuu]

If you play Overwatch alone or you play quickplay a lot, you've probably seen messages like:

"It's quickplay" "I don't care, I just want to have fun" "Go play competitive"

Quickplay is a mode in overwatch that's designed for exactly that, a quick match, when you don't really feel like playing competitive or other modes. The problem with this mode is that a lot of people I have seen are often not very collaborative or they completely miss the point or objective to have "fun"

Yeah, well, when I play I like to win and have a fun time, when someone of this mentality shows up I just shrug and accept that probably I won't have any fun, I will be frustrated and I will have to face a Defeat even when I was doing my role correctly.

"If you want to win, go play competitive" It's not always that easy, I do like to play comp, but when I'm with my team or my friends. When I'm alone I don't feel like doing poorly and ruining others' placement matches.

"It's quickplay, the objective is to train" Not really, you have the tutorial, the practice range and the vs. AI for training, even you can do custom matches with specific rules to play and train.

"I just want to have fun" Well, we all want to have fun, but why do I have to stick with a bad teammate?

If you report them, I don't really know what happens, I have never seen a banner user or something like that by poor teamwork (one of the many report issues) if you leave the match you will have warnings for leaving the match and, eventually, you will have a penalty of even up to 12 matches with your exp. points reduced to -75% so;

If you complain about poor teamwork in chat and ask them to exchange roles or even do them yourself, you will, probably, get a "it's qp"

If you report, nothing really happens and you will still be stuck with a bad team

If you leave you will be punished even if your objective was to have fun like the rest, have fun and win some matches.

After a terrible week in Overwatch, I struggle to play because I know I eventually will get shit for one way or another if it's not the chat it will the teammates itself.

My question GAF is, what's your opinion on the matter? How you face QP and how you recommend me to have more fun with the game?

Edit: Let's be clear, I do have fun even if I lose, but not when there's shitty stuff/players in the team. It's okay to lose if we all have fun and put our best efforts in the match

 

[AzureSkies]

Imagine players with this mentality but you're stuck with them in 60-70 minute matches.

Welcome to mobas.

 

[hygogg33]

sounds like Overwatch really isn't the game for you.

 

[benzopil]

My question GAF is, what's your opinion on the matter? How you face QP and how you recommend me to have more fun with the game?

I don't ever play quickplay after they introduced ranked. Even if I'm solo I go to Ranked.

For me to "have fun in Overwatch" is to compete and maybe win. I don't care if I have to play a healer, or tank, or Torb. There is just no point for me to launch Quick Play anymore. Even if everyone in this mode suddenly starts to play good team comps.

 

[Azoor]

I agree, just because it's quick play doesn't mean you have to intentionally ruin the fun of everyone else, if you want to screw around, don't involve other people in it and spoil their fun time.

 

[Teknopathetic]

It's casual matches with a bunch of random people. You cannot and will not control them and you're crazy if you think reporting (lol) or whining in chat will change that.

Join/start a community, discord, whatever and increase the amount of like-minded people you know so that you can almost always organize a group.

 

[DNAbro]

I would hate to run into you in quick play then

 

[KHlover]

Do you really propose training against AI? lmao.

 

[PSqueak]

The guy in the mic thread keeps saying something like this about people, by the way it's being described, just fucking around for the lulz in quickplay, but i play exclusively quickplay and, regardless of skill level, everyone is, like actually trying to win and do objectives, so i don't get this complain.

Where are these counter productive quickplay people you guys complain about? because i have never seen them.

 

[timetokill]

But what if I want to try a character I rarely or never play? I'll suck with them but it's the only way I can really learn them. Playing against the robots is the training area is really no comparison to learning how to play against other humans.

 

[benzopil]

Oh yeah, and reporting people because they don't play what you want them to play is just strange. If I had to report players every time someone picks Hanzo instead of a healer everyone would be already reported lol.

 

[Tabasco]

It's casual matches with a bunch of random people. You cannot and will not control them and you're crazy if you think reporting (lol) or whining in chat will change that.

Join/start a community, discord, whatever and increase the amount of like-minded people you know so that you can almost always organize a group.

This is the correct answer if it bothers you so much, OP.

 

[Bakercat]

I must be the weird one that doesn't really care to win or not, I just wanna shoot shit and make cool stuff happen. I guess I'm playing the game wrong. 😒

 

[Mutant]

The best casual matches were in No Limits. There was like a 10% chance you joined a team that cared enough to properly comp, but same goes for your opponents.

And then they removed for the total burning junkyard dumpster fire that is Total Mayhem. :\

 

[JusDoIt]

You sound like the guy in the pickup game who be yelling at strangers for leaving their man wide open.

 

[Nekrono]

The answer is within your own post

designed for exactly that, a quick match, when you don't really feel like playing competitive

No one will ever take QP seriously unless you have a group going, it's just the way it is and this goes for every other multiplayer game that has a real competitive game mode as well.

People just use it to fuck around, to get a quick match going, to play casually, to try new things, heroes, etc.

It's just the way it is man, there is nothing to lose so why try hard?

If you want to play multiplayer games seriously always go for competitive modes, and even then you'll probably get a lot of trolls and people who will not cooperate with the team. It's just the nature of every online game.

 

[Goldenroad]

Maybe stick to single player games. Playing with other people means that you may not always be playing with people who think the exact same way you do about games. Like you say, there is an AI mode, maybe just play that. If you don't feel like you can have fun if others aren't playing the way you want them to, then just don't play games with other people. Seems simple to me. I've never gotten so worked up playing Overwatch that I've spent even one minute after a match thinking about how terrible my experience was. I just go, "oh, lost that one I guess" and move on.

 

[FriskyrumX]

Go play AI Matches then.

 

[KiKaL]

So where should someone play when they want to play a character who is not necessarily their main? Or experiment? Are you suggesting that no matter what you must only choose characters that match the current meta if you are playing online with other players and always try hard?

 

[kasane]

You sound like the guy in the pickup game who be yelling at strangers for leaving their man wide open.

and the game who always wanna play pg

 

[Syf]

QP modes in pretty much every game with a ranked option are for fucking around. Hell I was drunk half the time I played QP in Overwatch. I don't have any problem with it. If I cared about winning I'd play ranked.

 

[Azoor]

But what if I want to try a character I rarely or never play? I'll suck with them but it's the only way I can really learn them. Playing against the robots is the training area is really no comparison to learning how to play against other humans.

She wasn't talking about that, she was talking about those who intentionally ruin the games for other people and give the "It's quick play!" excuse. There is absolutely nothing wrong with training with a character that you never play.

 

[Jawmuncher]

I don't even bother with QP anymore since that's now competitive mode light going by the numerous topics about this as of late . I just play in Mayhem or other Arcade modes.

I wouldn't call myself a bad player. I don't sabotage the team or mess around. But I don't care if we lose either. So with that mentality I've just shifted to modes where the gameplay is ridiculous anyway to even things out.

Dunno what you can really do Lucha outside not caring as much. Which you shouldn't have to do. However I do kind of stand that bad players have a gray area of acceptance. Throwing a match isn't right nor is trolling, but where rank isn't on the line I wouldn't say it's a big deal either.

 

[georly]

I do think it'd be great if game developers could figure something out to rectify this.

Saying "you can't change people" or "that's just how it is" is accepting that the problem can't be solved, ever.

I think we could all agree that it'd be nice if there was a way to guarantee you could queue up by yourself and be reasonably certain you'd be matched up with other people who had the same goals as you, the same mindset.

Saying to just find a group of people to play with isn't always possible - especially when you just wanna play a quick match out of the blue. Coordinating a team takes time and effort.

Will overwatch solve this problem? Probably not. We may need super crazy AI and super harsh consequences (or crazy good incentives) before a problem like this can be solved, though. I just think 'accepting that this is how it is' is a cop-out answer.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

Some people will shit on you HARD, but OP, I 100% agree with you.

My best friend and I use to get so, so mad at this.

I don't care if I win. I don't care if we get destroyed. I don't care if people make mistakes. I don't care if people are sometimes careless or using a new character. But, in a game where one team wins and one team loses, I want to at least try to win. The defeatist attitude in QP is mind-boggling. Like, oh yeah, that's right, may as well just act utterly brain dead and never bother with the objective.

/rant

 

[Kwansu Dudes]

You sound like the guy in the pickup game who be yelling at strangers for leaving their man wide open.

Lmao, I get mad at people in MyPark who make bone-headed plays (not guarding your man and/or double teaming for no reason/camping the paint when you're a guard...) or just give up and become a hindrance.

I agree though, you should find a community of like-minded players because you'll have people like me who play Hanzo with a controller on PC because I find it fun.

Edit: I think it's easier to say you dislike players who are intentionally fucking around and not helping the team at all.

 

[luulubuu]

She wasn't talking about that, she was talking about those who intentionally ruin the games for other people and give the "It's quick play!" excuse. There is absolutely nothing wrong with training with a character that you never play.

Exactly I stated that it's okay to lose and it's okay to have fun but not when you are ruining others experience like for example throwing, inactivity etc.

If you are there to have fun okay be it, I do too, but when your fun is ruining others I don't think that's cool, I also said what's your opinion on this and how you recommend me to go, in either moment I said that I had the true answer for this;

If there are more people who play the game different to me, then the one who is wrong is me, not the people.

You sound like the guy in the pickup game who be yelling at strangers for leaving their man wide open.

Nah, I have my preferences, but, for example, I go as backfill I will try to fill the gap or the role that it's missing even if I don't really like or know that role that well. For example, if we are in a long match and we have a support I ask them if they want to change with me to not be always one specific role so they can have more fun, I don't think that's bad!

I don't even bother with QP anymore since that's now competitive mode light going by the numerous topics about this as of late . I just play in Mayhem or other Arcade modes.

I wouldn't call myself a bad player. I don't sabotage the team or mess around. But I don't care if we lose either. So with that mentality I've just shifted to modes where the gameplay is ridiculous anyway to even things out.

Dunno what you can really do Lucha outside not caring as much. Which you shouldn't have to do. However I do kind of stand that bad players have a gray area of acceptance. Throwing a match isn't right nor is trolling, but where rank isn't on the line I wouldn't say it's a big deal either.

I don't think it's a big deal either, but for now, if the trend continues maybe some other players will just avoid a mode completely in order to have fun, it's what happens with arcade I think; In arcade you are rewarded with lootboxes after 3 victories so the players are more focused in winning there. I don't think it's the answer either, it's a mystery for me, that's why I opened the thread

 

[Strangelove77]

I'm pretty much the person you're describing - I don't take quickplay seriously at all. I play by myself with no mic while listening to podcasts and I don't care if I win or lose.
I also consider quickplay to be a way to really practice with different characters. The practice range or fighting bots isn't at all the same.

 

[QisTopTier]

Quick play is 100% for practicing.

If you want a serious match play competitive

 

[Rodelero]

A lot of the responses in this thread are fairly dismissive - this does touch upon a real and unfortunate issue with Quick Play on Overwatch. I completely understand some people's desire to mess around in Quick Play - I'm not exactly going to be playing at 100% - but I do still want to play a normal game of Overwatch. I often go into Quick Play to play a somewhat more relaxed game, or to play with a character I'm unfamiliar, but it's difficult to learn anything when you're faced with the first three people picking Widowmaker, Hanzo, and Genji almost without fail. Sadly, disfunctional compositions are very often the least of your worries in this mode right now. I'm not expecting people to 'play the meta', play their best characters or go all out with the seriousness they'd bring to a competitive match. At the same time, when people blatantly aren't interesting in winning or helping towards the objective, or, when people play compositions that simply can't work it not only ruins my fun it prevents anyone from learning anything.

This isn't a problem unique to Overwatch but it does feel like Overwatch could do with splitting Quick Play such that people that want to play to win are separated from those who want to mess around and 'have fun' in ways that very often prevent others from doing so. I can't help but feel that there are ways Blizzard could achieve that a lot better than they currently are. Whether it's possible to detect people screwing around so that they can be separated through matchmaking, or whether it needs to literally be split into different playlists I don't know, but something really ought to be done. Frankly I get more consistent matches in Mystery Heroes than Quick Play right now. It's also worth remembering that Quick Play is the only option for your first however many hours with the game. I hope that new players aren't having to deal with the same shit I often have to in QP.

 

[NeoRaider]

This. Plus Widow/Hanzo/Genji are ruining this game for me.

I get: "It's QP" all the time. Even in Paladins ppl are trying more and doing what they should do.

 

[Col WillieSharp]

Edit: Let's be clear, I do have fun even if I lose,

Everything you just wrote makes this statement seem unlikely.

 

[georly]

Quick play is 100% for practicing.

Practicing playing the game for real, yes. Not dicking around, figuring out how your character works, or just idling/trolling. There are other modes for that.

Everything you just wrote makes this statement seem unlikely.

You cut out the important bit - the caveat that says "as long as everyone was trying their best"

 

[shiftplusone]

i don't think i've ever seen the scenario proposed in this or the mic thread

people aren't playing their hardest in QP usually, but they don't just stand around and use it as a chat room or stay in spawn and just spray their icons and bunny hop


When someone fucked around in CS, they were buying dualies and binding it to mouse wheel up. or knives only in a situation where knives only were not agreed upon, or whatever.

Flash Banging themselves

When someone is fucking around in OW, they're just not... playing as seriously?

 

[Dali]

I was thinking of buying Overwatch during the steam sale. I don't play fps online... Well not at all really outside of Ghost in the Shell. My go to game mode would be non ranked matches. AI is not the same as real players. When I first went online with sfv I did non ranked matches as well. Same with tekken and kof. Sorry, op but you just have to deal with it.

 

[antibolo]

I've never had this problem with Overwatch on PS4 because nobody ever communicates there. It's awesome. I don't want to hear what random idiots think, ever. Whenever I play without friends I just treat the game as a single player experience with very advanced AI tech.

 

[Izuna]

Quick Play is garbage

I'm happy that there's a place specifically for it

I was thinking of buying Overwatch during the steam sale.

...

how?

 

[Mass Effect]

Sorry, I can't really agree with you on this one OP. For those looking for a casual match, what other options are there?

No limits isn't always available (like I don't think it is right now), plus can be a little too hectic.

I was thinking of buying Overwatch during the steam sale.

Overwatch isn't available on Steam, only BattleNet.

 

[Dio Brando]

it's like bizarro world. some of you are giving examples of fun, quickplay invites experimentation, etc, but that isnt the problem, at least in my experience. 99% of the time, the people that used the excuse of "it's just quickplay" while i played were assholes, as if just because it's quickplay i cant care about winning or not.

there's a difference between experimentation, being casual and just fucking it up for others.

 

[Sidon]

Yeah, well, when I play I like to win and have a fun time, when someone of this mentality shows up I just shrug and accept that probably I won't have any fun, I will be frustrated and I will have to face a Defeat even when I was doing my role correctly.

"If you want to win, go play competitive" It's not always that easy, I do like to play comp, but when I'm with my team or my friends. When I'm alone I don't feel like doing poorly and ruining others' placement matches.

Take their advice and go play ranked or not play at all and only play when your mates are on, and let us casual scrubs be.

I'm tired of hearing armchair generals throwing racial slurs during non-ranked matches. GTFO.

 

[Azoor]

Everything you just wrote makes this statement seem unlikely.

How? She said she likes the game, but hates those who intentionally ruin the fun for everyone else.

 

[Avallon]

I play Quick Play when I want to play heroes I'm not ready to take into Competitive yet.

If you're looking for a competitive atmosphere, go play Comp.

 

[PSqueak]

When someone is fucking around in OW, they're just not... playing as seriously?

Read: Not meeting OP's skill quality standards.

 

[luulubuu]

Take their advice and go play ranked or not play at all and only play when your mates are on, and let us casual scrubs be.

I'm tired of hearing armchair generals throwing racial slurs during non-ranked matches. GTFO.

I don't think I get the last part of your message

Read: Not meeting OP's skill quality standards.

Never said that, I said when people are ruining the game just for the sake of it, I don't have any quality standards regarding the game, if you tried that's good, if you are being toxic in the chat, throwing the match and doing anything then yeah it's bothersome, but I never said such things

 

[Col WillieSharp]

You cut out the important bit - the caveat that says "as long as everyone was trying their best"

Nah, the most important bit is where OP complains about one mode when he has three other modes he can try.

 

[sephi22]

Quick play is for trial and error or to have fun. Winning is just a side benefit or happy coincidence. Oh, and lootbox grinding.

I recently fell in love with Sombra but I'm not too confident with her so I practice her in QP. But if I'm playing competitive I only pick Pharah/Winston/Healers - characters I consider myself good at.

In Quick Play I don't mind screwing up my team comp and losing by picking Sombra. I'm paying more attention to my own play, flanking routes, accuracy etc. It's the best way to practice playing against real humans without losing SR

 

[benzopil]

How? She said she likes the game, but hates those who intentionally ruin the fun for everyone else.

Intentionally ruin?

If Mei puts up walls at spawn, she intentionally ruins the fun.

If someone picks a fourth DPS, he wants to practice with this hero and kills enemies while doing it. How is he intentionally ruining anything?

 

[LightofRohan]

I play quickplay fairly seriously, I like to win in that mode and don't like competitive. When my teammates are shitheads or don't care about winning, then I just accept it as an added challenge to my game. No big deal, it's not supposed to be overly competitive.

 

[Dali]

Overwatch isn't available on Steam, only BattleNet.

I guess not then. Still if I do decide to expand my online fps game outside of Ghost in the shell, I'd be spending most of my time in unranked inline matches until I got decent.

 

[PSqueak]

Never said that, I said when people are ruining the game just for the sake of it, I don't have any quality standards regarding the game, if you tried that's good, if you are being toxic in the chat, throwing the match and doing anything then yeah it's bothersome, but I never said such things

I don't know what can your post be interpreted as other than lack of skill, since like i said, i play exclusively on QP and (save for one mei intentionally blocking the spawn at the beginning of the match every once a blue moon) i have never found people to intentionally sabotage the team or "fucking around", they're always trying their best and that's why im baffled by these claims that griefers are rampant in QP.

I know, anecdotal, but hey, so is your OP.