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One Piece Manga |OT3| Anything You Can Gum I Can Gum Better

Ray Down

Banned
All of Stursans chefs are dead, had there souls ripped out at the wedding and his food apparently with his DF taste like ass.

Tomago said in chapter 825 that the pirates have done there research on Sanji and know that he is the strawhat chef and that he spent many years at the Baritie, hell he even says BM likes/admires Sanji more that he was a chef and considering its BM would like to try his work.
 

Big One

Banned
I could see the Sanji thing going either way. On one hand, Sanji is literally all about feeding the hungry starving or not. Big Mom has an eating disorder and NEEDS to fulfill her cravings to calm down, and Sanji needs a moment to shine in this arc. On the other hand, him running away is the smarter decision despite being a bit out of character. Then again, it's out of character for Luffy to run away as well, but he's still required to do it due to circumstances.
 
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I get the feeling the main purpose of this event is to make the escape easier for the SHs and Capone by tying up all the pursuers in a bigger problem, so I don't think Sanji will help. Hell, how would he even know to do so, they're already a good distance from Big Mom and heading to the ship, away from her
 

Ray Down

Banned
I get the feeling the main purpose of this event is to make the escape easier for the SHs and Capone by tying up all the pursuers in a bigger problem, so I don't think Sanji will help. Hell, how would he even know to do so, they're already a good distance from Big Mom and heading to the ship, away from her

Not really, looking at the map they shouldn't be to far ahead of where the castle fell and the sunny is still on the other side of the island while there closer to where Capone will be heading.

Not only that Brooke and Chopper would have to go a separate way back towards BM and co to grab the sub which should be stored around WCC.
 

Majukun

Member
I could see the Sanji thing going either way. On one hand, Sanji is literally all about feeding the hungry starving or not. Big Mom has an eating disorder and NEEDS to fulfill her cravings to calm down, and Sanji needs a moment to shine in this arc. On the other hand, him running away is the smarter decision despite being a bit out of character. Then again, it's out of character for Luffy to run away as well, but he's still required to do it due to circumstances.

not really the smartest decision.
that's because big mom has a info network vast enough that if the strawhats escape now,she will find a way to mail them the head of someone they know every week...that's literally the first thing we were told about her,and i really hope Oda is not gonna forget that or wave that off.

before this chapter,i was convicned that it ws gonna be pudding's role to help the mugiwara by brainwashing the big mom pirates into forgetting what happened, thus sparing them from the yonkou revenge...but the mugiwara working together with the big mom pirates to stop big mom's rampage so that the entire crew owe them one and will spare them from revenge killing everyone they know works too. And would work thematically too.
 

Ray Down

Banned
Plus Oda won't just end an arc with the conclusion...oh they just escape with out making it an event out of it.

Also why would Pudding help? It's not like we got a crazy BM out to murder, give her time with Sanji and grow as a a character all in service of doing the plot.
 

Ray Down

Banned
Why is the heroes coming together with enemies to stop a bigger all consuming threat and making a temp truces lamer than them just...sailing away and having no real impact in stopping BM from chasing after them and murdering them? or at least against the prospect.

Especially in an arc when food plays a big part and a central character KINDNESS is emphasized so much.

Especially when people want Pudding to somehow just save everyone else ass is WAY more lame, let's ignore all the issues of her bullshit OP power just saving the fucking day in the end when everyone else fucking sails off.

I keep getting Galette and Ginrummy confused.

There's obviously no Jinbei because Big Mom is going to eat him.

Oda doesn't like big armed fish people clearly.

Oh better yet he couldn't fit into a suit just like the Sunnys doors.
 

Majukun

Member
Plus Oda won't just end an arc with the conclusion...oh they just escape with out making it an event out of it.

Also why would Pudding help? It's not like we got a crazy BM out to murder, give her time with Sanji and grow as a a character all in service of doing the plot.
pudding would help for the same reason we got that panel with her reacting to sanji catching Nami.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Why is the heroes coming together with enemies to stop a bigger all consuming threat and making a temp truces lamer than them just...sailing away and having no real impact in stopping BM from chasing after them and murdering them? or at least against the prospect.

Because well... it is lame lol

Or more accurately, if there was a point in time where it would not be lame, where it would be an amusing conclusion to the arc, they have crossed it by now imo. They finally managed to escape, but end up having to go back to bake a cake? Meh. Again, I'd definitely have to see it for myself, but I'm not gonna lie and pretend I'm enthusiastic about the theory/prediction.

I agree that there is still the matter of their loved ones being threatened that they need to deal with... I think. Was only Judge really targeting Zeff? Because he's done with that. Or is Big Mom in on that as well? I thought she only did shit like that in regards to people declining her invitations. Lol, maybe they wouldn't chase them if they made it to Wano, lest she risks having the stalemate be broken.

Anyways, I dunno if they'll leave with literally no trouble, this arc is rather unpredictable, but if they did, it's an anti-climatic conclusion in a way that atm I'd prefer. I don't like the idea of managing to temporarily placate Big Mom after everything they've put her through, but that's just me.

Especially in an arc when food plays a big part and a central character KINDNESS is emphasized so much.

He's been kind enough today. :p

Especially when people want Pudding to somehow just save everyone else ass is WAY more lame, let's ignore all the issues of her bullshit OP power just saving the fucking day in the end when everyone else fucking sails off.

Well I dunno about all that lol, as far as I'm concerned, Pudding is done for the day in regards to pulling off some crazy twist relating to her powers.
 

Raxus

Member
Carrot has been so irrelevant in this climax, but her stans still want her on the ship. Smh.

Haven't most of the characters outside of Sanji and Luffy. Heck I think Chopper did less than Carrot this arc.

All this really doesn't matter too much until we get past these mini arcs and get into the major Wano Arc at the end of the year. Wonder if the Reviere is next after Whole Cake.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Haven't most of the characters outside of Sanji and Luffy. Heck I think Chopper did less than Carrot this arc.

All this really doesn't matter too much until we get past these mini arcs and get into the major Wano Arc at the end of the year. Wonder if the Reviere is next after Whole Cake.

Bropper was the first to utilize Brulee for their own purposes.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Yeah, this Big Mom rampage can only go one of two ways: she's either gonna eat all the cake covered people like in her flashback or she's gonna rampage until Sanji makes a cake for her.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Let's be real if Sanji actually went back to make Big Mom a spectacular meal, one that satiated her urge for the wedding cake, she would want to keep him on the island as a chef — which would mean another fight with Luffy so we're back to square one.
 
Why would Sanji make a cake for her? What does he gain from it? We saw how Jinbe gave Big Mom croquembouche and she still wanted to kill him and his crew. She's just going to let the SH get away even though she's already declared that she'll never forgive them?


Whoever is there can just make a cake for her. That's most likely Streusen. Streussen's food is only shit tasting when he uses his power to make it. If he just made it without using his power it would be fine. He's the one who made the original wedding cake, the same cake that Big Mom craves.
 

Syntsui

Member
No I find the idea ridiculous. Than what she lets them go?
Considering his character, he wouldn't be OK with so many innocents dying nor with someone being ''hungry''.

Pudding could be the one asking him to do it, the she alters her memory while she calms down and everything goes better than expected!

:(
 
Considering his character, he wouldn't be OK with so many innocents dying nor with someone being ''hungry''.

Pudding could be the one asking him to do it, the she alters her memory while she calms down and everything goes better than expected!

:(
I didn't suffer thru an arc of torture for sanji to bake his way outta trouble
 
Considering his character, he wouldn't be OK with so many innocents dying nor with someone being ''hungry''.

Pudding could be the one asking him to do it, the she alters her memory while she calms down and everything goes better than expected!

:(

She's not really starving though. She's just craving. And it's most likely Streussen who bakes the cake for her.
 

Ray Down

Banned
Let's be real if Sanji actually went back to make Big Mom a spectacular meal, one that satiated her urge for the wedding cake, she would want to keep him on the island as a chef — which would mean another fight with Luffy so we're back to square one.

Why would she just kick Sturs to the curb after all those years just over the one cake to satisfy her disease when Strus will continue to do it willingly? And that even if she has that disease anymore.

Why would Sanji make a cake for her? What does he gain from it? We saw how Jinbe gave Big Mom croquembouche and she still wanted to kill him and his crew. She's just going to let the SH get away even though she's already declared that she'll never forgive them?


Whoever is there can just make a cake for her. That's most likely Streusen. Streussen's food is only shit tasting when he uses his power to make it. If he just made it without using his power it would be fine. He's the one who made the original wedding cake, the same cake that Big Mom craves.

The arc emphasises his kindness and shows he is willing to save even scum like his family, even if the BMP are evil they don't deserve to be slaughtered by an unstoppable rage monster like this especially Pekoms and Pudding thats even to dark for Oda in the current time to take out a bunch of people like that. Leaving now puts there friend to death and Luffy was ready to fight Capone over what he did to Pekoms and I doubt Pedro will just leave his "brother" there to die.

Pekoms even after all this knowing the plan and what Big Mom does is still loyal to Big Mom and believes in her dream I doubt he just gonna willingly leave like this, then there idea of Pudding begging.

Stursan made that cake over three days with amny other chefs whom are all dead, he cannot just whip up this cake without some help and Pudding will not be enough.

Sanji has shown he is a miracle worker when it comes to food and cooking through out this series, look at his cooking at Punk Hazard feed every single person there the crew, law, the kids and all G5 marines which last time I remember there was 35+ group of people, he still has 99 recipes and skills of the Okama kingdom under his belt from his training to help bring this bitching cake up to speed with Pudding and Strus help along with the other charlottes.

And even then its not just the cake its revealing the truth to Big Mom that her entire life was built on this lie, its not just a mere happenstance that there two people (one in close proximity) that knows the truth of what happened where Big Mom clearly doesn't know all the facts in the same arc with a memory manipulator. I doubt you will have all parties with a good enough chance, she can easily forgive them when she learns what Mother Caramel had in store for her with planning to sell her off.

Even now they still aren't there with escaping there still within the vacancy of WCC you can see it on the background/foreground of it being on the ground and on the map there not to far away that Big Mom in her rage form can't just stumble into them.

In an arc with so many twist and turns with turning people expectations on there head I'm surprised more people aren't at least plausible of the idea or just dismissive when through out this arc there been logic holes like this and ones that explained previous situations away. I mean you can not like the idea more power too you but I wouldn't be so dismissive at this prospect just yet.

No I find the idea ridiculous. Than what she lets them go? If she likes the cake she'll want sanji

If anything pudding is off somewhere making one

While she will help this shit gonna need to be a group effort.

Though I surprised your aganist the cooking idea since Sanji wasen't got a W through fighting, and he can get one through cooking :p
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Why would she just kick Sturs to the curb after all those years just over the one cake to satisfy her disease when Strus will continue to do it willingly? And that even if she has that disease anymore...





Stursan made that cake over three days with amny other chefs whom are all dead, he cannot just whip up this cake without some help and Pudding will not be enough.

...

In an arc with so many twist and turns with turning people expectations on there head I'm surprised more people aren't at least plausible of the idea or just dismissive when through out this arc there been logic holes like this and ones that explained previous situations away. I mean you can not like the idea more power too you but I wouldn't be so dismissive at this prospect just yet.



While she will help this shit gonna need to be a group effort.

? she would keep Sanji along side Stursan; she has/had many chefs.

Only good thing about your theory is that Oda will provide an answer next week so we won't have to spend more than a week on this discussion before it's confirmed wrong :p
 

Ray Down

Banned
I'm tired of arguing at this point any way specially over two days, if it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't we will see since this arc not over yet and we will see in the coming weeks, just saying people are jumping the gun to much saying it won't happen (you can say the same for me about it happening).

Especially after being right about Pudding I feel pretty confident :p

No skin off anyones back at this point, well maybe besides B-leg.

The Dawn project sounds like it's still in the planning phases.

True, but I swear SJ games don't get some form of announcement so early like other games.

Like I think the longest wait between announcement and release was either the first Jojo game or Jump Versus.
 

smurfx

get some go again
so will ceasar end up making a weapon that can penetrate kaido's skin to make up for his failure with big mom? i'm gonna guess and say kaido will have far tougher defense than big mom. sanji baking a cake for big mom is stupid.
 

Ray Down

Banned
so will ceasar end up making a weapon that can penetrate kaido's skin to make up for his failure with big mom? i'm gonna guess and say kaido will have far tougher defense than big mom. sanji baking a cake for big mom is stupid.

Didn't CC split already?
 

smurfx

get some go again
Didn't CC split already?
doesn't mean he won't somehow end up being involved with the wano arc later on. especially since the wano arc will likely have a couple of mini arcs in between. first will be nekomamushi finding marco. the 2nd will be luffy gathering all of his fleet members for the final attack.
 

Ogodei

Member
There is no possible way Gangster Gastino is done with this arc, let alone this story.

The funny thing is that this arc portrayed him as worth somewhat less than his reputation. He could make SAD as a precursor to the Smiley fruits, but only using a facility the WG had already prepped for him, and his internal monologue revealed that he wasn't making much headway in his giantification research.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
The funny thing is that this arc portrayed him as worth somewhat less than his reputation. He could make SAD as a precursor to the Smiley fruits, but only using a facility the WG had already prepped for him, and his internal monologue revealed that he wasn't making much headway in his giantification research.

According to him though scientists have been working on it for centuries and he's actually made some headway with the kids. Hell given Big Mom's personality she might be fine with it only working on children if he sold it to her right.
 
Meh idc either way I got a sanji focused arc luffy could take out Bm this arc for all I care I'm good

Finally, I see a post like this. I was getting tired of seeing other people think the "year of Sanji" meant "year of making Sanji look like the goat." We got to see more of Sanji's past, his blood relatives, a wedding, etc...

Oda kept his word. The arc was a Sanji arc.
 

Ray Down

Banned
? she would keep Sanji along side Stursan; she has/had many chefs.

Only good thing about your theory is that Oda will provide an answer next week so we won't have to spend more than a week on this discussion before it's confirmed wrong :p
Can't wait when it shows I'm right then :p
 
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