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It’s Time for Hillary Clinton to Bow Out of Public Life, Along with All Other Women

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Deleted member 80556

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Nice little piece of satire from The New Yorker. Some excerpts:

The Trump Presidency isn’t a slow-motion car crash. It’s happening at light speed, every day. How are we supposed to combat this existential threat when we’re constantly interrupted by the rejected message of a previous candidate? And how am I supposed to formulate my thoughts when my wife is constantly interrupting to ask what I’m thinking? It’s a political Catch-22 that can only be reconciled by Hillary returning to the Chappaqua woods, along with my wife, and her friend Sarah with the weird laugh, who apparently doesn’t have her own apartment where she can watch “The Good Fight.”

And don’t get me started on Chelsea.
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I can hear you formulating your outrage. But, I assure you, this is not a “gendered” opinion. No recent failed Presidential candidate has ever had such a prominent public role post-election, with the possible exceptions of Al Gore, who produced and starred in an Oscar-winning documentary; Senator John McCain, who is a constant television presence; and Mitt Romney, who—you gotta admit—seemed like a pretty good dude in that Netflix movie. Just an awkward guy from a political family who had no logical career move other than President at that point in his life. Sure, he lacked charisma in public, but you saw the real him around his family. Unlike Hillary Clinton, a calculating technocrat, who, it must be admitted, selfishly plotted a takeover of the Presidency for decades.
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Reminded me of other threads where the Clinton name is mentioned and people are already asking for her to never speak again.
 
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shawnbuddy

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You can find nearly identical, non-satirical articles and posts like this all over the internet, especially in the Bernie-loving places and Reddit.
 
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rjinaz

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Some people won't be happy until Hillary is dead. You do your thing Hillary, if you can bring money into the party behind the scenes without you being a face in the election.
 
SlimySnake

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The point is, we’ll never move ahead as a nation if we keep following a failed candidate. It’s time to think about Sanders 2020.
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lol i love this.

i will never understand the Hillary hate on gaf. She lost to a sexist, race baiting and lying pig. Shouldnt we be angry at the people who chose him over a well qualified candidate like Hillary?
 
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SodiumBenzoate

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I think she's being very smart, actually. Have just enough of a public presence to keep Fox News and Sean Hannity attacking her everyday instead of someone who will actually run for office in the near future.
 
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Planx

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SlimySnake said:
lol i love this.

i will never understand the Hillary hate on gaf. She lost to a sexist, race baiting and lying pig. Shouldnt we be angry at the people who chose him over a well qualified candidate like Hillary?
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because she and her staff ran a terrible campaign that lost to a sexist, race bating, lying pig by failing to take him seriously as a challenger
 
SlimySnake

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Planx said:
because she and her staff ran a terrible campaign that lost to a sexist, race bating, lying pig by failing to take him seriously as a challenger
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meh. she prepared well for the debates and destroyed him in all three debates. she had some very harsh ads that compiled his greatest/worst hits and was endorsed by nearly every paper in the united states including nearly all republican leaning papers in the south.

She lost not because she didnt visit Wisconsin but because people saw this man do and say horrible things and said to themselves they want him instead of her. The guy was a walking attack ad against himself and people didnt care. Not much anyone could have done against such a candidate.
 
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iammeiam

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The piece as a whole is good, but this bit really is the best finish:
The point is, we'll never move ahead as a nation if we keep following a failed candidate. It's time to think about Sanders 2020.
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Because, yep, that about sums it all up right there.
 
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Father_Brain

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It's amazing that she can be less popular than Trump and yet her apologists will still desperately cling to the "all criticism of HRC is misogyny" strawman.

Give Kibblesmith credit for knowing his audience, at least.
 
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excelsiorlef

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Father_Brain said:
It's amazing that she can be less popular than Trump and yet her apologists will still desperately cling to the "all criticism of HRC is misogyny" strawman.

Give Kibblesmith credit for knowing his audience, at least.
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Ummm... the only reason she's less popular than Trump is that most Republicans have no morals...


That poll is the logical outcome when one side doesn't care.

When asked who you'd prefer as President guess who won that poll.
 
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MattKeil

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Planx said:
because she and her staff ran a terrible campaign that lost to a sexist, race bating, lying pig by failing to take him seriously as a challenger
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Except for winning by almost 3 million votes, of course.

She lost due to a quirk of our idiotic electoral system.
 
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Neoweee

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MattKeil said:
Except for winning by almost 3 million votes, of course.

She lost due to a quirk of our idiotic electoral system.
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The interaction of the electoral system, and Trump turning out a bunch of white people without college degrees that typically don't vote, combined with the completely and utterly unjustified Comey letter depressing the suburban vote, and a sustained Russian cyber campaign depressing the progressive vote.

It took a lot going wrong for this to happen.
 
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Bronx-Man

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Hillary lost because she ran against a guy running a campaign on getting the scary brown people of this country. Guess which candidate White America fell in love with?
 
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ApharmdX

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While it feels constructive for some to be snarky with how Clinton has been treated post-election, I think it's hard to argue the position that her continued public presence would have anything constructive to offer Democrats moving forward. She's a persona non grata for a majority of Americans. I don't have a problem with her criticisms of the Trump administration, as they have all been on-point so far, but it does nothing to help her party and IMO more to hurt it.

shamanick said:
I can't remember the last time someone lost a primary and then ran in the next cycle. It's unheard of!
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LOL.
 
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Somnid

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Author doesn't understand retro cool. Famous losers and fallen celebrities are often remembered fondly at a distance. Hillary needs about 5 years of laying low and then she can start making movie cameos or something.
 
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Father_Brain

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IceBringer said:
Wow this thread went to shit really quick
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Well, it's not like this is a well-thought out argument that actually attempted to substantively engage criticism of HRC. Its one joke is that HRC critics do so out of misogyny, so that its audience can pat themselves on the back for seeing her as the infallible heroine/Khaleesi/etc. she so obviously is. What do you expect?
 
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Guevara

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One thing that's kind of unique about Clinton is that she's had an air of inevitability going on 12 years now, and that's kind of off-putting.

Most failed candidates go back to their day jobs; Clinton's day job is running for president, at this point.
 
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y2dvd

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MattKeil said:
Except for winning by almost 3 million votes, of course.

She lost due to a quirk of our idiotic electoral system.
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We know that's the name of the game though. Why did Clinton lose all of those counties that previously went to Obama? Genuine question.
 
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The Technomancer

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Father_Brain said:
Well, it's not like this is a well-thought out argument that actually attempted to substantively engage criticism of HRC. Its one joke is that HRC critics do so out of misogyny, so that its audience can pat themselves on the back for seeing her as the infallible heroine/Khaleesi/etc. she so obviously is. What do you expect?
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Bruh

I was on Twitter in 2016

Don't tell me folks weren't enthusiastically about how the Clinton Foundation was corrupt or how she was "too power hungry"
 
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Deleted member 80556

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ApharmdX said:
While it feels constructive for some to be snarky with how Clinton has been treated post-election, I think it's hard to argue the position that her continued public presence would have anything constructive to offer Democrats moving forward. She's a persona non grata for a majority of Americans. I don't have a problem with her criticisms of the Trump administration, as they have all been on-point so far, but it does nothing to help her party and IMO more to hurt it.
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If she rallies donors around a new, more progressive, better candidate, is that nothing constructive she can offer?
 
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kirblar

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shamanick said:
I can't remember the last time someone lost a primary and then ran in the next cycle. It's unheard of!
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They've never done so successfully on the Dem side in modern history. It's why Clinton should have stayed in a private or administrative role and why Sanders shouldn't run again.

Being unfamiliar to people is an asset because it give the GOP less time to smear you.
 
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