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Let's watch/rewatch Game Of Thrones together from the start

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Ocarina_117

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The drop in quality post season 4 would seem more apparent on a marathon of the series, I assume.

Be interesting to see if you pick up on things discussed in the no book thread without having a week between episodes to look up on theories and book details online.

You're on a fantastic rollercoaster ride, that's for sure.
 
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TheYanger

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Baconmonk said:
I've been thinking about doing a rewatch myself, it's a ton of content and I'd love to see it all at once. The map intro may get tiresome, but it changes a slight bit in further seasons to show places relevant to the current story, so that's a neat element.
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I would add it's not even that it changes over seasons - it changes episode to episode, it's VERY helpful early on because it will show you exactly the places that are relevant to each episode to give you a sense of space. Just wanted to clarify so that it's not like 'ok here's where I need to know for this season' and you start skipping it, it's basically always good.
 
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jett

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Have fun OP. I'll be surprised if you manage to make it out of this thread unspoiled. :p

Ocarina_117 said:
The drop in quality post season 4 would seem more apparent on a marathon of the series, I assume.

Be interesting to see if you pick up on things discussed in the no book thread without having a week between episodes to look up on theories and book details online.

You're on a fantastic rollercoaster ride, that's for sure.
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It does. I did a rewatch a few months ago. Getting through season 5 was a real fucking struggle. S6 wasn't great but it was better than that at least.
 
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Poor GRIMES

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Alexander DeLarge said:
Be prepared for a massive drop in quality once they run out of GRRM source material (Season 6). Watching Season 1 again was practically a different show when it comes to dialog and pacing. Still, highly recommend the show. It has its moments, Season 6 had some of the best in the series.
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Season 5 was mostly book material and is without a doubt the worst season.
 
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Violet_0

Banned
you don't have to pay attention to the map and where everything is in relation to each other, the show doesn't do either
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
I have to say for a show with such high production values the sex and nudity does come across as pretty amateurish. With so many characters and plot lines going at once to spend precious time on it constantly seems like a waste. I'm sure it's in the source material but still.
 
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Lkr

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Hollywood Duo said:
I have to say for a show with such high production values the sex and nudity does come across as pretty amateurish. With so many characters and plot lines going at once to spend precious time on it constantly seems like a waste. I'm sure it's in the source material but still.
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There's a decent amount of exposition and world building going on during the sex scenes tbh.
I did a rewatch before last year before that season came out. Season 1 is so fucking good, I think I've seen it 3-4 times now
 
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asagami_

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Hollywood Duo said:
I have to say for a show with such high production values the sex and nudity does come across as pretty amateurish. With so many characters and plot lines going at once to spend precious time on it constantly seems like a waste. I'm sure it's in the source material but still.
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I watched the pilot when the series started, but now I am reading the books I found out Tyrion (late end spoilers from the first book/season 1?
doesn't have sex with anyone (or at least it's never showed to the reader) until the night before the battle against Robb forces.
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I suspect it's a trend in the series :/
 
Grinchy

Grinchy

Banned
I did it too recently.

Just skip all the Dany scenes and it goes by much faster. Her storyline sucks and she's so terrible on screen that it even improves the watching experience.
 
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zeemumu

Member
GoT is one of those shows that I had to binge hard in order to catch up to the present and can't really picture myself going back and watching from the beginning unless the current season divebombs hard in quality or the show gets outright cancelled. I can go back and watch individual episodes though. Doctor Who is in the same boat.
 
eXistor

eXistor

Member
It's so strange, I loved the first 3 seasons and couldn't wait for the 4th, but in the meantime I just completely lost all interest in the show and never watched another episode again. Is it worth getting back into at all or is it just more of the same?
 
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Begbie

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Hollywood Duo said:
I'm guessing the map in the intro was intentional to help people get their heads around things. Although I can see it becoming annoying after awhile.
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I wouldn't recommend skipping the introduction as it changes episode to episode as the locations change.
 
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eot

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Poor GRIMES said:
Season 5 was mostly book material and is without a doubt the worst season.
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I didn't watch season 6, but yeah I agree it (S5) was the worst season of the ones I watched. Their deviations from the books hardly helped though, the worst stuff in that season is the original stuff they wrote and the plotlines that are good in the book are butchered in the show. Their interpretation of the characters deviates from the books', which is fine, but then they try to force those characters into the same plot and a lot of the time it feels like character actions are not justified properly. The show is too damn incoherent, it frustrates me.

Begbie said:
I wouldn't recommend skipping the introduction as it changes episode to episode as the locations change.
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The show doesn't respect the geography at all, so it kind of doesn't matter.
 
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Spinluck

Member
Perfect thread timing, I'm about to introduce my girlfriend to the show.

She'll be on the long list of people I introduced the show too lol.
 
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adamantypants

Member
Considering rewatching everything again. I've already done it like 4 times tho

johancruijff said:
i would love to but another 60 hours? who has the time
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I spent like 5 hours just playing Horizon: Zero Dawn the other day, right after watching like 5 more hours of Giant Bomb content so I probably have the time to do it. In a week, even.
 
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Skellig Gra

Member

Season 1 Episode 5


The Vale is cool design. Like something out of Final Fantasy. Doesn't seem like they are doing much with it though.

Reiterating I really like Aryas character. I hope it goes somewhere over the seasons. She is a really good actress for such a young age

Varys and Little Finger seem like redundant characters hopefully they distinguish themselves going forward.
 
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Violet_0

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eXistor said:
It's so strange, I loved the first 3 seasons and couldn't wait for the 4th, but in the meantime I just completely lost all interest in the show and never watched another episode again. Is it worth getting back into at all or is it just more of the same?
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4th season is pretty good, 5th is notoriously bad, 6th works with entirely new material (since the books pretty much stop there) and has a few standout episodes, 7th season started out pretty underwhelming so far

the later books are generally less well-liked and the show suffers from this as well, in addition to the showrunners making some rather questionable choices and the writing often being less than stellar, but if you enjoy it well enough (or enjoy hate-watching it :p) it's worth continuing
 
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Pachimari

Member
Maybe I should jump on here. I'm only halfway through Season 2, and I haven seen S3, 4, 5 or 6 yet. Thinking of starting over season 2 since it's been months since I last saw of Game of Thrones.
 
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justjohn

Member
I've been binging for the last few weeks and I'm currently watching S5 and yeah, it's not as good as the previous seasons but still watchable.
 
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eot

Banned
Hollywood Duo said:

Season 1 Episode 5


The Vale is cool design. Like something out of Final Fantasy. Doesn't seem like they are doing much with it though.

Reiterating I really like Aryas character. I hope it goes somewhere over the seasons. She is a really good actress for such a young age

Varys and Little Finger seem like redundant characters hopefully they distinguish themselves going forward.
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I think she's a really inconsistent actress. She can do some scenes / emotions well, but fails horribly at other ones
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
Season 1 Episode 6

Nothing like a good redhead.

Ned seems like he is overplaying his hand against the Lannisters. Not exactly a deft politician.

So Daenerys is the "true" dragon, whatever that is supposed to mean since she didn't burn herself on the eggs and the molten gold killed her brother.

More on Daenerys, how the hell is she so in love with Drogo? Its just completely dumb.
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
Season 1 Episode 7

You know Ellie this really is a Game Of Thrones

I don't understand why anyone who is not a prisoner would voluntarily sign up for the wall. A lifetime of misery for no reason apparently, especially after seeing what the life entails.

I like the twist of Snow not getting ranger duty. I was definitely expecting him to just go straight out in to the wilds.

So the king dies and his final orders are immediately ignored? Kind of dumb.

If Littlefinger is thirsty for Ned's wife as he seems then its a pretty stupid move to betray him like this.

At first I thought Jorah getting a pardon was part of the assassination plot but now I'm not so sure.

Love the gratuitous cock shot of the wine merchant. SMH
 
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jfkgoblue

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Violet_0 said:
4th season is pretty good, 5th is notoriously bad, 6th works with entirely new material (since the books pretty much stop there) and has a few standout episodes, 7th season started out pretty underwhelming so far

the later books are generally less well-liked and the show suffers from this as well, in addition to the showrunners making some rather questionable choices and the writing often being less than stellar, but if you enjoy it well enough (or enjoy hate-watching it :p) it's worth continuing
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6th season is 50/50 new vs published source material. 7th is all new.
 
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Skellig Gra

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Season 1 Episode 8

Loved Syrio's last stand. "What do we say, to the god of death?"

So do people who get attacked by white walkers become one or is it some other undead thing? Seems unclear to me at this point.

Nice to see Khal Drogo actually do some fighting. Up to this point he's just kind of stood around looking menacing.

I wonder if Daenerys is realizing how brutal the Dothraki way is and is getting a guilty conscience.

It doesn't seem like Robb has a chance at winning this war as the sides currently stand so I wonder how it will evolve.

Love Charles Dance as Tywin. I remember him from when I was a kid seeing Last Action Hero. Him and Ian McKellen were in that.
 
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falconxcrunner09

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I have been rewatching the show too! I'm on Season 3 Episode 7(?). It's so cool to see all the foreshadowing for future seasons, especially for Aria. I am not looking forward to Season 5 and most of 6 however.

S5+S6 spoilers
The Mereen and Church/Cersei plot lines just make the whole plot seem circular and pointless. Didn't help they were incredibly boring too. But I am very excited for Battle of the Bastards. One of the best moments in TV history.
 
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Altazor

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oh, you're just going to watch the season's best episode, OP! Gonna wait for your thoughts on it :)

Also, about people going to the Wall: very very few go there voluntarily. It's more like a commuted prison sentence than a call of duty, so to speak. At least by the time the series and the books start, it's like that. It used to be different a long time ago, but the NW is kinda devalued and understaffed and filled with criminals that avoided some kind of other punishment.
 
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Skellig Gra

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Season 1 Episode 9

Full disclosure, I already knew Ned Stark dies. Spoiled on that one many many years ago.

I liked how it was handled. Quick and brutal. Ned thought he was saving his daughters by sacrificing his own life. Hopefully that sacrifice is rewarded.

It also shows quite clearly the type of king Joffrey is going to be.

More Daenerys fuckery. So did the "witch" purposely mess up Drogo's wound or was it an honest failure? It's hard to get a read on her. Pretty lame way for him to go out TBH.

That sword that Jon Snow gets is pretty bad ass.

I was very confused at first with the battle scene because they had talked about how far away Robb Stark was but seeing it being a ruse to capture Jaime it all makes sense. Too bad for the Lannisters that Ned is already dead.
 
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Altazor

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Hollywood Duo said:
Season 1 Episode 9

Full disclosure, I already knew Ned Stark dies. Spoiled on that one many many years ago.

I liked how it was handled. Quick and brutal. Ned thought he was saving his daughters by sacrificing his own life. Hopefully that sacrifice is rewarded.

It also shows quite clearly the type of king Joffrey is going to be.
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More Daenerys fuckery. So did the "witch" purposely mess up Drogo's wound or was it an honest failure? It's hard to get a read on her. Pretty lame way for him to go out TBH.
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1- Maisie's acting during that final scene is top notch. She didn't say a word but that look, man... one of the many reasons beyond just the plot point that scene/moment became iconic for the show. Also... wait and see if it's rewarded. I mean, the thing about
Ned's death
isn't just about shock value - it's a
deconstruction/criticism of the "honorable knight wins by virtue of being honorable" trope, to show that blind honor in a cutthroat environment can amount to stupidity. It's one thing to be honorable, another thing is to trust people that you shouldn't trust at all.

2- Next episode should clear the Mirri Maz Duur situation up.
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
Altazor said:
1- Maisie's acting during that final scene is top notch. She didn't say a word but that look, man... one of the many reasons beyond just the plot point that scene/moment became iconic for the show. Also... wait and see if it's rewarded. I mean, the thing about
Ned's death
isn't just about shock value - it's a
deconstruction/criticism of the "honorable knight wins by virtue of being honorable" trope, to show that blind honor in a cutthroat environment can amount to stupidity. It's one thing to be honorable, another thing is to trust people that you shouldn't trust at all.

2- Next episode should clear the Mirri Maz Duur situation up.
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Yeah I definitely see what GRRM was going for with Ned. Basically this isn't a typical fantasy universe where the good knight wins because he is honorable and strong.
Much more akin to what actually happened with medieval palace intrigue.
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
Season 1 Episode 10


It felt like this whole episode was just setting up Season 2 kind of like an MCU movie heh.

Nice to see Arya own that annoying fat kid.

Really dumb what happened to Drogo.

The whole Daenerys plot line was just a means to get the dragons to be reborn it seems. It's really not that interesting and I hope she doesn't "win" the game of thrones in the end.

I'm more interested in what will happen with the Night's Watch expedition north of the wall than the ensuing multi pronged war that seems to be coming.



Overall Season 1 thoughts

I enjoyed the first season a lot. Some characters are just so much better and more interesting than others. Tyrion is a highlight. Daenerys is a very low light, just not a believable character at all. Arya and Sansa play a nice juxtaposition I suppose but I feel like Sophie Turner is just not a good actress.

Production values are awesome and the attention to detail is great. I love the outdoor practical shots. They "feel" much better than the sound studio stuff if that makes any sense.

Since I already knew Ned died I wonder how that played with my perception of the season. The only other real spoiler I know about going forward is the (season 3 spoiler)
Red Wedding
but I don't know what actually goes down. It's also obvious from media appearances which characters are still alive in Season 7.


I like how GRRM isn't afraid to drastically shake up the status quo constantly. Keeps you on your toes and not too attached to any characters.

One minor nitpick I have is the lack of consistency between peoples accents. You have siblings who talk with completely different accents. Not a big deal just kind of weird.

The only big question I have is whats with the three eyed raven. Clearly some prophecy of death/doom but the 3 eyes must have some sort of magical/mythical meaning. I'm not going to google it in case there is explanation later but I hope there is.

On to Season 2!
 
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Altazor

Member
Glad you liked the season! It's a reasonably faithful adaptation of A Game of Thrones, with a couple of things added (like, for example, that Robert and Cersei conversation, or pretty much everything about Ros in Littlefinger's brothel), some removed (characters like Donal Noye, who was the blacksmith of the Night's Watch in the books) and some changed outright (the Stark children's ages, Jaime's tone when pushing Bran out of the tower window is quite different in the book, a Dothraki who dies in the series and doesn't in the book) but it follows the original material with few major deviations.

Things start to change a bit more with S2 - A Clash of Kings is a longer book and some of the plotlines were condensed/simplified quite a bit in the series. My personal opinion (I'm sure others would disagree) is that S2 feels a bit like a step down in many respects, even though it has one episode that redefined what "epic" meant for this series (if you're interested in knowing which one:
episode 9, "Blackwater". It pretty much set the template for the "epic"/expensive episode in each successive season
).

Hopefully you keep us updated!
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
Altazor said:
Glad you liked the season! It's a reasonably faithful adaptation of A Game of Thrones, with a couple of things added (like, for example, that Robert and Cersei conversation, or pretty much everything about Ros in Littlefinger's brothel), some removed (characters like Donal Noye, who was the blacksmith of the Night's Watch in the books) and some changed outright (the Stark children's ages, Jaime's tone when pushing Bran out of the tower window is quite different in the book, a Dothraki who dies in the series and doesn't in the book) but it follows the original material with few major deviations.

Things start to change a bit more with S2 - A Clash of Kings is a longer book and some of the plotlines were condensed/simplified quite a bit in the series. My personal opinion (I'm sure others would disagree) is that S2 feels a bit like a step down in many respects, even though it has one episode that redefined what "epic" meant for this series (if you're interested in knowing which one:
episode 9, "Blackwater". It pretty much set the template for the "epic"/expensive episode in each successive season
).

Hopefully you keep us updated!
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Interesting to hear about all the changes. I've never read any of his books before but I'm glad its faithful to the source material for the most part so far.
 
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Lulubop

Member
Ha, just started watching it last night. I'm only on episode two but so far so good. That said, I wish it had more supernatural or fantasy elements and I know I know but the world seems kinda dry atm. Also any scene involving Emilia Clarke's character I'm already over it, it's not great.

Those wolves have some amazing timing, huh?
 
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LegendofDragoonLives

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If Danny bored you in s1,
get ready to get a lot more disappointed moving forward. :\ She was one of my favorite characters in s1, and that went away for every season.
 
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Altazor

Member
jfkgoblue said:
Each season deviates more and more.
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to the point where Season 5 is pretty much a husk of A Dance With Dragons. They kinda took the general plot points (starts with A, then B happens, ends at C) and filled the rest out by themselves. It's a 1000+ page book that they decided to adapt in a single season, so...

Considering Martin hasn't released The Winds of Winter yet, and the show kept on going past S5, that means the books and the show are not only in completely different points as of now - they took completely different roads (or at least, what we know of TWOW seem to imply that) so the show is barely an "adaptation" anymore. It's more of an "inspired by..." thing.
 
Monocle

Monocle

Member
Just keep in mind that S6 is easily the best season after the first one. Like, no contest. Every episode has significant events or revelations, and the big plot-critical moments are some of the show's best. S5 is the worst, but it also has one of the best episodes. Go figure.

Also, if you care, the books are much better and more consistent than the show. They are larger in scope, more complex, more cruel and lurid. Every character is developed more thoroughly (characters like Loras Tyrell are shadows of themselves in the show), and you get a considerable amount of fascinating backstory that gives valuable context to the events in the first book.

BTW never google the name of any Game of Thrones character. Or anything to do with the series if you can help it. Massive spoilers abound. Even the suggestions in the search bar will spoil things. This is one show where it pays not to know what to expect.
 
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Altazor

Member
Lulubop said:
Ha, just started watching it last night. I'm only on episode two but so far so good. That said, I wish it had more supernatural or fantasy elements and I know I know but the world seems kinda dry atm.
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I'll try to remain as vague and non spoileriffic as I possibly can, so... keep on watching!
 
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Skellig Gra

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Season 2 Episode 1

I look forward to Tyrion being the Hand of the King, much more politically adept than Ned.

I liked the introduction to Stannis, with the flames and all that. Well shot I thought. I wish Carice van Houten was an actual red head though ;)

I said it in an earlier post, how could any of these whores prove their son is fathered by the King? It seems irrelevant and pointless to kill all these bastards. Cersei literally tore up a letter FROM the King saying Ned is the ruler until Joffrey is 18 or whatever. So what is some whore in a brothel going to have over that?

I'm guessing Arya doesn't actually make in to Winterfell

Daenerys zzzzzzzz
 
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Ovid

Member
Hollywood Duo said:
Season 2 Episode 1

I said it in an earlier post, how could any of these whores prove their son is fathered by the King? It seems irrelevant and pointless to kill all these bastards. Cersei literally tore up a letter FROM the King saying Ned is the ruler until Joffrey is 18 or whatever. So what is some whore in a brothel going to have over that?
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I'm assuming they knew who Robert slept with.

Anyway, as long as someone else has a claim to the throne, they are a threat to Joffrey's reign. Even bastards can be legitimized.
 
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Skellig Gra

Member
Ovid said:
I'm assuming they knew who Robert slept with.

Anyway, as long as someone else has a claim to the throne, they are a threat to Joffrey's reign. Even bastards can be legitimized.
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Sure I get that, it just seems like a waste of breath when we've already seen that Cersei defied the former king's direct order in terms of who should hold power. It's not a believable scenario that those baby's they killed in the brothel would ever be a threat to Joffrey. With so much going on with so many characters I question a lot of decisions they make on what makes it on to the screen.
 
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