he left for Transporter
they never did the book version any justice
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that sexy beast *swoon*
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Let's watch/rewatch Game Of Thrones together from the start
- Thread starter Skellig Gra
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they never did the book version any justice
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a0/c1/b2/a0c1b24849d16c7880552f3277cd00ae.jpg
that sexy beast *swoon*
Ah, I see.
S4
I'm 4 episodes in and I feel like this is a much better season than the previous two. The pacing has picked up and not every single plot thread is receiving a focus per episode or at least it's minimized. Things that were built up in previous seasons are finally having some payoff and I really didn't expect to see Joffrey drop dead this early.
That said, the stuff with Dany continues to be terrible. There's no real drama or intrigued, no complex interactions and she's coming off as a Mary Sue. Her advisers have become background props at this point, because she's like the best. There's not even any regular ass conversations between any of them. It feels like a different show altogether at times. I wasn't a fan of the Dany stuff in season 1, but I'd take that in a heart beat. Didn't she have a few Dothraki people still lingering around too? Where they at? It's been a minute.
That said, the stuff with Dany continues to be terrible. There's no real drama or intrigued, no complex interactions and she's coming off as a Mary Sue. Her advisers have become background props at this point, because she's like the best. There's not even any regular ass conversations between any of them. It feels like a different show altogether at times. I wasn't a fan of the Dany stuff in season 1, but I'd take that in a heart beat. Didn't she have a few Dothraki people still lingering around too? Where they at? It's been a minute.
Skellig Gra
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Season 2 Episode 9
Great episode. I feel like it was somewhat diminished the scale of things because I watched on my phone but I can see why this would have been a huge deal way back when this episode aired originally.
The penultimate scene where Cersei is about to kill her son is really well done.
I kept waiting for some Deus Ex Machina to come in to save King's Landing because I was convinced there was no way they would kill off all those main characters so early in to the series run. I knew it wouldn't be the wildfire because that is too obvious and it happened really early in the episode. Clever way to do it right at the end with the calvary charge. I thought it was more of Stannis' forces at first.
I'll be interested to see how Tywin's arrival changes up the status quo at both King's Landing and the ongoing war.
Unclear what happened to Stannis' as of now.
The penultimate scene where Cersei is about to kill her son is really well done.
I kept waiting for some Deus Ex Machina to come in to save King's Landing because I was convinced there was no way they would kill off all those main characters so early in to the series run. I knew it wouldn't be the wildfire because that is too obvious and it happened really early in the episode. Clever way to do it right at the end with the calvary charge. I thought it was more of Stannis' forces at first.
I'll be interested to see how Tywin's arrival changes up the status quo at both King's Landing and the ongoing war.
Unclear what happened to Stannis' as of now.
glad to see you liked it! that
was absolutely mindblowing back then. I don't think I had ever seen CGI of that quality on TV before.
And yeah those final moments were tense as hell, with
Oh and gotta love the Hound:
wildfire explosion
And yeah those final moments were tense as hell, with
Cersei about to poison Tommen and you thinking Stannis's forces are gonna win this thing...
until the knight in Renly's armor comes marching in, you realize the Tyrells have joined the Lannisters and it all ends with Tywin entering the throne room and saying "the battle is over... WE HAVE WON."
man, fucking gutpunch right there
until the knight in Renly's armor comes marching in, you realize the Tyrells have joined the Lannisters and it all ends with Tywin entering the throne room and saying "the battle is over... WE HAVE WON."
man, fucking gutpunch right there
Oh and gotta love the Hound:
fuck the Kingsguard. Fuck the city. Fuck the King.
Skellig Gra
Member
Yeah the Hound leaving was an interesting move. It's weird that he just bailed. Doesn't seem like a guy who even gives a shit if he dies.
Skellig Gra
Member
Season 2 Episode 10
Ok, so Stannis is perfectly fine. That's a bit strange unless I missed something.
Once again Daenerys just lucks in to everything. Gets her dragons back and tons of gold and jewels to go along with it. I don't understand what the warlocks plan even was? Maybe its better laid out in the book.
Maester Luwin kind of goes down like a chump. I liked his character, weird way to end his life but ok.
Valar Morghulis? Uh ok, and then the Jaqen shape shifted. I hope this is revisited because that really didn't make any sense.
White walkers revealed for real. Why didn't they kill Sam? I wonder if that has any significance.
Once again Daenerys just lucks in to everything. Gets her dragons back and tons of gold and jewels to go along with it. I don't understand what the warlocks plan even was? Maybe its better laid out in the book.
Maester Luwin kind of goes down like a chump. I liked his character, weird way to end his life but ok.
Valar Morghulis? Uh ok, and then the Jaqen shape shifted. I hope this is revisited because that really didn't make any sense.
White walkers revealed for real. Why didn't they kill Sam? I wonder if that has any significance.
Well, considering in the book
the Warlocks never stole her dragons, their plan was mostly to consume her power or something like that, betting on trapping her forever in the House of the Undying. Also, her visions in the book were way fucking cooler and some big foreshadowing stuff.
It kinda went the same way in the book (as in
mortally wounded by a minor character then crawling to the Godswood
Winterfell... fell
Theon's men didn't turn on him - but there was a betrayal in the books, by a certain faction to another character
yeah... wait and see.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Trying to get my girlfriend to do this with me now. It's a daunting task for anyone who hasn't got into it at this point, but I'm sure I can convince her to start over with me and then join me for Season 7...
Skellig Gra
Member
Season 2 Overall Thoughts
I think with the expanded scope of Season 2, binge watching like this makes things a lot easier to follow. That being said I still feel like a lot of stuff just flew by me. I think I enjoyed Season 1 a little better than 2 although the battle of Blackwater Bay was probably the high point of the series thus far.
Other than Daenerys I feel like after a whole season of war and political maneuvering, it seems like the status quo is not much different than the beginning of the Season.
I'm wondering if the White Walkers are the ultimate baddies for the final season. I'm having a hard time seeing where the whole series is going to end up. I guess that's a good thing though.
Still can't figure out if Dornish wine is supposed to be good or bad.
Other than Daenerys I feel like after a whole season of war and political maneuvering, it seems like the status quo is not much different than the beginning of the Season.
I'm wondering if the White Walkers are the ultimate baddies for the final season. I'm having a hard time seeing where the whole series is going to end up. I guess that's a good thing though.
Still can't figure out if Dornish wine is supposed to be good or bad.
Herr Schwarz
Banned
Season 1 - 2 is peak thrones.
I'm not, tired!
Whoopsie daisey was the best character in the show and he is missed.
I'm not, tired!
Ok fucking spoilers. How am I not surprised this happens on GAF.
I believe the actor wanted more money than they were willing to pay
Junior Asparagus
Member
I never really understood why they chose a replacement that looks nothing like the original one. You'd think they'd at least try for some physical similarity.
This isn't really a spoiler, so I'll answer. It's supposed to be good.
As for the status quo:
the Lannisters just reinforced their power over the Throne. Stannis took out his own brother and then got beaten by the Lannister-Tyrell forces, which left him severely weakened. The fact that the Tyrells decided to back Joffrey after Renly gets killed changes the balance masively: the Lannisters finally have the support of one of the (if not THE) richest Houses in Westeros.
Plus, the Starks just lost Winterfell (and, as far as Catelyn and Robb are concerned, Bran and Rickon are dead, Arya is still missing, Sansa is still a hostage and Theon -though not a Stark, but their ward and Robb's best friend- betrayed them) so it's a huge setback they didn't anticipate.
And Jon has to go beyond the Wall as a spy. Considering a lot of his "brothers" have never really liked him, you can imagine how well they're gonna take this development.
Plus, the Starks just lost Winterfell (and, as far as Catelyn and Robb are concerned, Bran and Rickon are dead, Arya is still missing, Sansa is still a hostage and Theon -though not a Stark, but their ward and Robb's best friend- betrayed them) so it's a huge setback they didn't anticipate.
And Jon has to go beyond the Wall as a spy. Considering a lot of his "brothers" have never really liked him, you can imagine how well they're gonna take this development.
About the wine: Dornishmen love Dornish wine, and people from the Reach (Tyrells) hate it. Same thing happens with the wine from the Reach - loved by the locals, hated by the Dornishmen. It's a regional pride thing, and also because the Tyrells (Reach) and the Martells (Dorne) are ancient rivals.
Skellig Gra
Member
Easy on the spoiler material, not crazy but still
Take that spoiler out man, not considerate at all.
Duane Cunningham
Member
I think generally speaking, Dornish is shorthand for strong red wine, and Arbor (which is part of The Reach) is good, white wine. Arbor Gold is for refined people who have their shit together, Dornish Red is for dangerous people and/or proper alcoholics.
[EDIT: after looking it up, there seems to be plenty of reference to Arbor Red, too... like the Arbor Gold, it's considered really really good wine. For show purposes, Cercei and Tyrion are probably prime examples of people who prefer Dornish Red.]
And practical people, like those in the north, drink beer instead. As do the smallfolk. In fact, Commander Mormont at one point has beer with his breakfast (both in the book and in the show).
And in Essos, they have their own wines and stuff. I think the Dothraki drink fermented horse milk or some such. I think Qarth also drinks some crazy shit. There is occasionally mention of imported Westerosi wines, though.
Dude, what the hell?
S4:
I'm happy I finished the episode last night before reading that spoiler. That said,
going into watching this I assumed Joffrey had a much bigger role than he ultimately did. I'm not sure why, maybe it's because I had always seen disdain for him on social media, or meme images. I thought he'd be the primary antagonist throughout the series, growing more mad as it progressed. Needless to say I was pretty shocked when dropped dead.
going into watching this I assumed Joffrey had a much bigger role than he ultimately did. I'm not sure why, maybe it's because I had always seen disdain for him on social media, or meme images. I thought he'd be the primary antagonist throughout the series, growing more mad as it progressed. Needless to say I was pretty shocked when dropped dead.
Shin K Dash
Member
you may want to ask a mod to put "no spoilers" in the thread title or something
Herr Schwarz
Banned
Whoopsie daisey guys!
But relish that sweet ambience. The atmosphere north of the wall is like some Lost level hatch intrigue.
But relish that sweet ambience. The atmosphere north of the wall is like some Lost level hatch intrigue.
yup. Twice, in fact.
*laughs*
I won't say why, though. But those who are up-to-date with the series will probably know why
Atomic Playboy
Member
Yes, he's been played by three different actors at this point. Conan Stevens played him in Season 1, Ian Whyte played him in Season 2, and Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson played him after that. Conan was a big, burly, mean looking dude. Ian Whyte was tall but super-lean. Hapthor is built like a brick shithouse. So there's a definite shift to the character based on the actor portraying him.
Honestly, I think
the ideal Mountain would be a mixture of the three actors: Stevens' mean face (literally, the man looked scary as fuck when scowling) and demeanor, Whyte's dark voice and height, and Björnsson's overall build.
Atomic Playboy
Member
I would've just stuck with Stevens, personally. Dude had the intimidation factor down. Bjornsson is giant, but he also looks like an overgrown kid. Whyte was basically non-existent. When Conan beheads a horse, you think "that probably wasn't even in the script, this dude is just fucking nuts." That's a Mountain I can get behind.
Yea, and plus dude looks younger than his younger brother. They look nothing alike actually, unlike him and the first dude.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Actually, I'm willing to bet a huge portion of the audience didn't realize it was meant to be him in S2.
Pretty sure they wanted to, but Stevens left the show due to a filming conflict. One of the Hobbit movies, I think.
and in the end, he didn't even appear there. Replaced by a CGI goblin portrayed by a different actor.
Duane Cunningham
Member
That sucks. He was clearly the best. The S2 actor was especially bad as a recast. From this guy:
To this guy:
... I mean, that's just a botched recast.
LOL yeah. This show (or should I say, the books) has a tendency to mess with you. I remember the
THEY KILLED MY NIGGA NED, MAN!
higgsboson1997
Member
It's by far my favourite show ever.
Hope you enjoy it!
Hope you enjoy it!
higgsboson1997
Member
3,4,6 is peak Thrones to me. The first two they were just finding their stride and I think it's clunky sometimes. 7 is great so far too.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
I'm sorry I haven't really been following this thread but I just jumped to the last page and read that you watched Blackwater on your phone. And I must voice my disapproval.
Hope you are enjoying your first watch overall though.
Hope you are enjoying your first watch overall though.
I'm caught up on the show but I'm doing a rewatch while doing chores. Fun stuff. I'm up to s1e4 I think.
First Mountain best Mountain.
edit: I don't really like season 2 that much. My least favorite actually. General s2 spoilers
First Mountain best Mountain.
edit: I don't really like season 2 that much. My least favorite actually. General s2 spoilers
Dany's story is the most boring in this season for me. I hated Qarth. And Battle of Blackwater is probably my least favorite big battle that they do, aside from "fuck the king." Based Hound.
Skellig Gra
Member
Haha, I'm not on a cable subscription and I don't have Apple TV so it's either my phone, the MacBook, or the iPad. Not ideal I know.
I'm finishing up S4 right now and I think 3 has been the weakest,
I think it was the low point with Dany's story, the stuff with the Wall was disappointing and everything going on at King's Landing wasn't that interesting, it ended strong however. I liked watching Tyrion in S2 trying to outwit his sister and keep Joffrey in-check. The war front stuff wasn't bad either, and Arya Stark was great. She's still my favorite character.
S4-8:
I wasn't ready for the end of that fight, poor guy.
I'll see how I feel about it when I get through my rewatch.
And I just remembered season 5. General s5 spoilers
I don't hate it as much as most, but there are some infuriating decisions they made in the season for sure.
oh god
*having war flashbacks*
yeah it's... not so good, actually.
A couple of character assassinations, a subplot that ends up being useless, some very bad lines and baffling moments... definitely not one of the show's better seasons. At least it gave us one hell of an episode, though (Ep. 9) - that one was heads and shoulders above the rest.
I'm about to start S02E07 and hnng at all the things that's happening. It's fast paced, and damn there's a lot of nudity/sex on this show lol. I really like Talisa, she's so pretty.
Also, fuck Theon.
I'm really enjoying Season 2 so far. So many things are in play, and stuff is happening, and I don't think I have any trouble following any of the plots. I freaking love that Daenerys
, that entitled girl. She haven't even been to Westeros fuck me man. I lost it when she said she haven't been there since she was a baby. Well, how the hell would you expect a man to give up his ships for your dreams.
I can actually follow the map on the HBO Viewer's Guide without any VPN so that's nice at least. I go to check which location I've been at after an episode.
Also, fuck Theon.
I'm really enjoying Season 2 so far. So many things are in play, and stuff is happening, and I don't think I have any trouble following any of the plots. I freaking love that Daenerys
lost her fucking dragons hahaha
I can actually follow the map on the HBO Viewer's Guide without any VPN so that's nice at least. I go to check which location I've been at after an episode.
King Tubby
Member
Just started rewatching the show myself. It's definitely a show that lends itself to that, given how dense and hard to follow it can be if you're not familiar with the source material. I feel like it's really declined in the aspects that made me enjoy the earlier seasons, so it's good to get back to the classic King's Landing intrigue that made the show so compelling.
Also, glad to see OP has the correct opinion on Danaerys.
Also, glad to see OP has the correct opinion on Danaerys.
He knows and
he's betting on the rest of Winterfell believing the lie and, thus, break their resistance.
Fancyarcher
Member
Finished the first season several days ago. Gonna miss it when Bean bites the bullet, I'll admit.
Whoaaa at S02E09!
Tyrion Lannister
How the hell did he do that!?
I wonder what Cersei wanted to do with that
?
Tyrion Lannister
getting cut in his face, I was almost afraid to see him go there! And whoa at that ending, that it turned out that Tywin Lannister had overthrown Stannis' invasion.
I wonder what Cersei wanted to do with that
liquid she was prepared to feed her son. Like, was it a poison to kill him so he didn't have to live through the horrible nightmare playing out in front of them? I can't remember what 1 drop, 3 drops or even what 10 drops does