I think the problem I've had with this season is that every episode revolves around Rick begrudgingly doing things he doesn't want to do, causing him to come across as cranky hipster that's too cool for anything opposed to a man of ultra science that does things because he wants to. Watching Rick complain about things for 22 minutes isn't engaging, it's annoying and it makes you hate him. We're not being taken along for the ride anymore, we're being dragged behind him as he condescendingly dumbs it down for us for no real reason.
I think criticism is being unfair, but not totally unwarranted.
Particularly because not every episode in season 1 and 2 were gold. They just became part of what people love because of the Rick and morty high.
Episode 1 is great, episode 2 is admittedly weak, episode 3 was completely fine just with a lot of drama on the side, and episode 4 was a throwaway adventure.
I think eps 5 and 6 will be solid, but yes it's clear that as they move away from setting up the universe they'll focus more on the characters with the occasional throwaway gag episode.
They took as long as they did partially because they wanted to go this direction and didn't feel inspired to do more aching to season 1 and 2.
Someone of you need to stop putting so much fucking stock in this show. It's just a show with a bunch of fuckery. Shut off your brain and enjoy.
"I am back up to.... ONE MILLION ANTS"
Best character of the season so far.
Yes, and the fact that they treat them as if we've seen them before is part of the joke. It's supposed to be a joke about the crazy amount of superhero movie sequels. The Vindicators' first appearance is a "sequel" to an adventure that the audience never saw.
2 and 4All four episodes have been pretty great so far.
I don't understand the hate on episodes 2 or 3.
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All four episodes have been pretty great so far.
I don't understand the hate on episodes 2 or 3.
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The Star Lord type Vindicator. I can't remember his name. Uh social drinking dude.Wow, Christine Slater was in this? What role does he play?
I would argue that they're far from "back to form"Finally back to form.
This was a good episode after two dreadful ones.
My ratings on a R&M scale
Ep 1: 9/10
Ep 2: 1/10
Ep 3: 2/10
Ep 4: 7.5/10
The Star Lord type Vindicator. I can't remember his name. Uh social drinking dude.
I'm thinking it's done. Follows the classic Cartoon Network formula too: Got too popular way too fast, was too dark for the executives to handle, it was pacified with new writers who don't understand the show.
Do you feel that the show has grown or evolved at all?
Here's a good comparison to make: Community. By season 3 it was getting really hit or miss. Some great highs but the lowest lows (up to that point).
Consider the differences between Simpsons and South Park Season 1 and Season 3. Season 4 of both shows is where the strongest run of seasons begins. When I compare seasons 1 and what we have so far of season 3 of R&M I really don't chart that growth.
Going back to Community and the parallels to R&M, I see it as a Dan Harmon thing where he is trying to distill the show to what he thinks it is supposed to be rather than letting it continue to discover what it can be.
I make that assumption based on what I know of his obsession with learning the perfect storytelling structure/writing formula. I mean, shit, he makes a Joeseph Campbell joke in like every fucking episode of R&M. They opened this episode with one.
The Mad Max parody was really weak for me. The entire episode just fell flat IMO.
Go watch Season 1 again.I think these episodes have been pretty good. I'm not sure what people really want, and judging by the negative posts, neither do they.
So he's destroying this show like he did his previous show? Why on earth would he do this?It's really not that simple.
I'm gonna repost what I theorized a few pages back.
Go watch Season 1 again.
That's the show we want.
You can't watch Season 1 and honestly say it's at the same level or quality as Season 3. They were more loose with everything during S1. Now it's all calculated to the most boring level possible.I don't quite follow. How has the internal logic of the show changed from season 1 to season 3? It's still Rick and Morty et all going on adventures based on a variety of absurd premises, that get resolved in unusual ways that tend to turn TV tropes on their heads.
You can't watch Season 1 and honestly say it's at the same level or quality as Season 3.
They were more loose with everything during S1.
Now it's all calculated to the most boring level possible.
You can't watch Season 1 and honestly say it's at the same level or quality as Season 3.
Speak for yourself. The Rick and Morty Pilot is legitimately bad and they improved tremendously after it.Go watch Season 1 again.
That's the show we want.
So he's destroying this show like he did his previous show? Why on earth would he do this?
I'm liking the show but that is such annoying argumentThere needs to be a universal rule for every thread where you get a temp ban for the "Don't think about it just shut your brain off" argument.
There needs to be a universal rule for every thread where you get a temp ban for the "Don't think about it just shut your brain off" argument.
And I can't believe some people are rating Pickle Rick a 2/10 - it's one of the best episodes of the series so far, full stop.
yupS3: Ep.1>4>3>2
I would argue that they're far from "back to form"
S1: 10/10
S2: 7/10
S3-
E1: 7/10
E2: 2/10
E3: 2/10
E4: 5/10
I'm thinking it's done. Follows the classic Cartoon Network formula too: Got too popular way too fast, was too dark for the executives to handle, it was pacified with new writers who don't understand the show.
Hype + Message Boards ruin shows.
Hype + Message Boards ruin shows.
That's how I rate it.S3: Ep.1>4>3>2
So he's destroying this show like he did his previous show? Why on earth would he do this?
There was a chance R&M could have been #1 best show on AS after that perfect Season 1, but I guess Venture will remain the king.
I would argue that they're far from "back to form"
S1: 10/10
S2: 7/10
S3-
E1: 7/10
E2: 2/10
E3: 2/10
E4: 5/10
I'm thinking it's done. Follows the classic Cartoon Network formula too: Got too popular way too fast, was too dark for the executives to handle, it was pacified with new writers who don't understand the show.
Pilot / Anatomy Park / Raising Gazorpazorp / Something Ricked (on average, devil plot rules) / Finale are all worse episodes than any S3 ones so far imo, and the "wubba-lubba-dub-dub" reveal was a fun payoff, but had absolutely zero emotional impact for me as the 'season closer'. (don't really get how they're loose with everything in S1 when they probably planned the 'come watch TV' and catchphrase gags from moment zero).
Even with bigger duds I feel S2 is better than S1 so I can't disagree more with 'perfect S1, S3 is destroying the show'.
Real talk: season 3 already shits all over season 1. It's true.
And I can't believe some people are rating Pickle Rick a 2/10 - it's one of the best episodes of the series so far, full stop.
Only because of Pirate of the PancreasAnatomy park is one of the best episodes in the entire show