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Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor fight finalized for Aug. 26 - It's on!
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Ninja Scooter
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can't you order a stream direct from Shotime?
Cap'n Cook
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lightskintwin
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Hopkins was an alien hence the reason he changed his moniker. LOL
Welterweight is a much deeper division that get's replenished with talent from the lightweight and junior welterweight division than the light heavyweight division Hopkins was fighting in. Sooner or later, a younger guy like Terrance Crawford or somebody would've defeated an aging Mayweather.
Polygonal_Sprite
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I will say... the people who picked Floyd were right and I along with everyone who picked Conor were wrong? It's a 50/50 shot lol.
Something tells me you're way more invested in this than I am.
lightskintwin
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Why would I be invested in this? We're on a forum with a thread specifically about this event. I've watched boxing for over 30 years and sporadically have watched MMA matches since they first started. I have an informed opinion I'm sharing, nothing more.
BadAss2961
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Age, height, reach, and raw power he has. Not so much the rest.
The difference in handspeed is ridiculous in this matchup and will probably show up right out the gate. Same with counters and ability to slip punches.
Unorthodox style in this case is more likely to turn out bad than good. There's reasons why boxers don't do certain things, not unless they're a rare talent that can get away with them. Whatever weird shit Conor might try will probably open up holes in his defense that he won't be quick enough to close before being punished for it. Regardless, Floyd's talents are more foreign to Conor than anything Floyd hasn't seen in the ring before.
Chin doesn't mean much in this fight. That matters more in brawls where both sides will be getting hit a lot. A good chin only means more punishment when you're getting boxed up. Body shots could do him in as well.
I'd say Conor just has a punchers chance and a 2-3 round window to get it, and Floyd losing that way is almost unfathomable with how good his defense is. After 3 rounds, it becomes a Mayweather clinic if it hasn't started already.
Polygonal_Sprite
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So you have an informed opinion on boxing then.
I was just answering your question about "what would I say" if I turned out to pick the wrong winner out of two possible winners.
lightskintwin
Banned
Sure which I appreciated, but then you added some weird speculation about me being more invested in this for some reason. LOL
pixelation
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It's an unorthodox way of training and it may look silly to a person who does not box (hell even to some boxers and trainers)... but i can definitely see how he can apply those silly looking movements when actually throwing punches.
Two weeks ago I would have called you paranoid.
Alpha Centauri
Member
too true.
What do you think is going to happen?
Racists will get super mad when Floyd clowns Conor?
CebollaDeAbbott
Banned
That's not how this works. Floyd is the best boxer in the world, Conor has absolutely no credentials in the sport.
This fight will serve as a final showcase of the incredible athlete Floyd is. The first round will be fascinating to watch, however.
There are two options . Either Conor loses or he doesn't. That's 50/50.
CebollaDeAbbott
Banned
Yes of course, I'm talking in a gambling sense. The odds that Conor does not lose are certainly not 50/50.
CebollaDeAbbott
Banned
We haven't seen Floyd in years and now he's past his prime going against a fresh Conor. If this goes to a decision Floyd more than likely loses due to the fact that Conor went 12 rounds with the self-titled greatest boxer of his generation.
Conor is sparring with MMA guys and amateur boxers whereas Floyd brought in Zab Judah and Errol Spence Jr. These are experienced boxers we're talking about here versus amateurs. Conor needs to bring in an experienced boxer that can give him the tools to succeed.
My main gripe for Conor's side is a seeming lack of preparation. He should've started preparing for Floyd in January. If he started back then the odds would be higher. Start getting yourself ready and prepare for this like you should.
I want a good clean sportsmanlike bout between champions.
Conor is sparring with MMA guys and amateur boxers whereas Floyd brought in Zab Judah and Errol Spence Jr. These are experienced boxers we're talking about here versus amateurs. Conor needs to bring in an experienced boxer that can give him the tools to succeed.
My main gripe for Conor's side is a seeming lack of preparation. He should've started preparing for Floyd in January. If he started back then the odds would be higher. Start getting yourself ready and prepare for this like you should.
I want a good clean sportsmanlike bout between champions.
Jesus Carbomb
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Erm ... who wants to let Furyous know.
2blackcats
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"Nothing fucks you harder than time"
That's not how scoring in boxing works.
Cap'n Cook
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I think McGregor started preparing since Dec of last year, Conor's dad was on The MMA Hour not too long after the fight was officially announced and he said that they knew that the fight was really going to happen since Dec and that it was hard for him to keep it a secret. Mayweather probably knew before that, he sparred Juan Funez a southpaw back in Oct. Juan Funez describes Mayweather's power and says he almost shit his pants with a body shot from Mayweather.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzy7LMuNkRc
Mayweather also sparred and stopped a MMA fighter in May, so I think both were preparing for this fight well before the fight was made official.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky_-w6VbK5U&t
Haunted
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If this goes to a decision, Floyd Mayweather has already lost.
This isn't moving the goalpost or setting unreasonable expectations for Floyd, that's just a fact. Other boxers have said so, Floyd himself has said so and I don't think that's just idle talk to hype up the fight on their part (by promising an earlier finish). Expectations are higher for Floyd than just defending well and getting a solid UD, these two are the representatives of their respective disciplines, which they both love deeply and have an intense pride about (maybe Floyd even moreso than Conor) and Floyd will have to deal with the perception that Conor is moving over to boxing as a "conqueror". With two specialists, there's an immediate psychological advantage for the one willing to move over to the arena of the other guy, even if it doesn't square up with the physical advantage of the specialist allowed to be in his element.
tl;dr - it's on Floyd to do much more here than just coast to a decision win.
This isn't moving the goalpost or setting unreasonable expectations for Floyd, that's just a fact. Other boxers have said so, Floyd himself has said so and I don't think that's just idle talk to hype up the fight on their part (by promising an earlier finish). Expectations are higher for Floyd than just defending well and getting a solid UD, these two are the representatives of their respective disciplines, which they both love deeply and have an intense pride about (maybe Floyd even moreso than Conor) and Floyd will have to deal with the perception that Conor is moving over to boxing as a "conqueror". With two specialists, there's an immediate psychological advantage for the one willing to move over to the arena of the other guy, even if it doesn't square up with the physical advantage of the specialist allowed to be in his element.
tl;dr - it's on Floyd to do much more here than just coast to a decision win.
Well yeah, but ending the analysis there is just boring.
MajinSweet4
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Your mistake is thinking Conor really cares about winning this fight. Him losing does nothing to his legacy because no one seriously expects him to win. But on the flip side, regardless of the outcome he's going to make a stupid amount of money.
Expected to make $100 mill if the fight breaks the previous PPV record, which I have my doubts it would
Awesome! Enjoy.
Why do you have your doubts. This is all people are talking about. Now imagine in some weird fucked up timeline Connor actually wins. Ho boy.
Man back in calmer times, Floyd had a fight with Ricky Hatton and I went to a bar with a few of my boys to watch it. If we didnt roll as deep as we were that night (around 7-8 of us), things would have went left quickly. The stares and all throughout the fight were crazy. The bouncers who happened to be black, kept checking in with us throughout the night because they felt it.
Nowadays I am just saying to choose your spot wisely. There will be alcohol and there will be real life rage quitting.... I'll be watching this at home with close friends.
TrumanBurbank
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They will pay him 15-20 million at least per fight from now on. If he fights 2-3 times a yr, and it's something he loves to do. I think it's good money still for him. Plus the guy loves to buy super expensive stuff. He can negotiate less interviews and media too now.
Guy has to fight, it's his gift.
May vs Pac, you actually had two of the most elite talents in the sport and there were a lot of people thinking Manny could pull off the upset.
Here, people know Mcgregor has a snow ball's chance and are gonna be more hard pressed to give Floyd another $100
I think casuals will probably balloon it up to 3 million buys. but the hardcore presseence that would get it over 4 million won't be there.
Zok310
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Hmmm..... was not aware, I'll look into it. Thanks
If this goes to a decision, Floyd Mayweather has already lost.
This isn't moving the goalpost or setting unreasonable expectations for Floyd, that's just a fact. Other boxers have said so, Floyd himself has said so and I don't think that's just idle talk to hype up the fight on their part (by promising an earlier finish). Expectations are higher for Floyd than just defending well and getting a solid UD, these two are the representatives of their respective disciplines, which they both love deeply and have an intense pride about (maybe Floyd even moreso than Conor) and Floyd will have to deal with the perception that Conor is moving over to boxing as a "conqueror". With two specialists, there's an immediate psychological advantage for the one willing to move over to the arena of the other guy, even if it doesn't square up with the physical advantage of the specialist allowed to be in his element.
tl;dr - it's on Floyd to do much more here than just coast to a decision win.
Well yeah, but ending the analysis there is just boring.
Definitely a huge accomplishment for McGregor to last 12 rounds with Floyd. Just like it would be a huge accomplishment for Floyd to go 5 round with McGregor in a UFC fight.
By all rights, Conor should get wrecked. It's a different sport.
Speed? He has faster hands other than that there is zero evidence.
Agility? With hands.
Stamina? Yes
Strength? Zero evidence.
Bobnob
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Paragraph 1, Not sure if you mean Floyd actually loses on the scorecard ? i don't see that happening, and the point of CM going 12 rounds doesn't score him bonus points lol.
Paragrath 2.He got a experienced boxer in on short notice and took the piss.Then turned down another world class opponant (who was at fighting fitness).
Paragrath 3. He started back in early December
Sportsmanship. Well, in that 20 second clip CM throws a half dozen rabbit punches.
lightskintwin
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I think Dave Chappelle said it best, In one corner you've got one of the Greats who was born with boxing gloves on merely traning for a fight in a sport he's mastered for decades, in the other corner you got a guy that's learning how to box. 'Nuff said.
Zero evidence of speed? LOL faster reflexes, faster feet, faster hands,
In boxing, the expression "speed kills" is there for a reason.
Mayweather is overall athletically superior. Like it's not even close.
Bobnob
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better foot movement, better maybe the best ring iq = Agility= its pretty evident?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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All we know for sure is that he will continue to never defend his title.
Breaking news: 8 oz gloves have been approved.
https://twitter.com/latimespugmire/status/897865182453481472
https://twitter.com/latimespugmire/status/897865182453481472
dem
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I thought for sure that was getting denied.
When I heard Leonard Ellerbe saying they wanted 8oz because it would lead to a knock out... all I could think was "what a horrible argument for the commission if you actually want it approved."
What does this mean for the fight