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Did you go to a rally protesting Trump in the last few days or weeks? If not, why?

Nepenthe

Member
As far as I've knew, there was nothing going on around me within the time frame. However, I'm planning on going down to Atlanta Saturday in the wake of those 11 or so planned Nazi protests. I know they were supposedly cancelled, but you can't trust a fucking Nazi as far as you can throw 'em.
 
Nope. I work full-time, have a wife and other responsibilities to handle in my off-time.

I vote and donate to causes I care about, which is more than many of the "protesters" can probably say.
Way to knock OP off the high horse just to climb up on it. LOL.
It's called the nazi protests of 1933 and knowing they don't amount to much. You want to make a difference play the game with better tactics. I also am basically not helping dems in anyway until they get serious about blm or lgbtq residence rights which amazingly pakistan is leading better than our political leaders in this country do.
What? Well okay but (certain) Dems have been advancing such agendas. And how is Pakistan ahead of the US on BLM and LGBTQ rights?
 
Same here, first one for me

I'm not going to lie, I'm nervous. With arpio likely to get pardoned I can see things escalating quickly

I don't intend to be at the front lines. I'm mostly going to lend my presence to the crowd. I'm not sticking around if people start shit.

If he pardons Arpaio it's going to be a clusterfuck.

Nope. I work full-time, have a wife and other responsibilities to handle in my off-time.

I vote and donate to causes I care about, which is more than many of the "protesters" can probably say.

Yeah man, you should only be allowed to protest if you pay for it.
 
Because its 100 degrees outside and since I live in the suburbs of houston I'd probably have to drive 20 minutes and pay for parking somewhere downtown
 
Follow your local Indivisible group on Facebook and you'll know about these events.

I'm not sure what it's called but search Tidewater/Hampton Roads Indivisible and if that doesn't come back with anything start looking up Norfolk, VAB, Chesapeake, Portsmouth, etc. Indivisible.

Just found out who organized it, gonna keep an eye on their page. Looks like they are going to be doing one at the Olde Town Portsmouth monument. I just wish I knew about the one Downtown, I live not far at all from the area.

Those sorts of protests are ineffective and cringe-worthy. I would like to protest with my taxes though, holding onto your money should be protected as free speech

This is the most idiotic use of the overused term cringy-worthy that I have ever seen and that's a feat.
 
As far as I've knew, there was nothing going on around me within the time frame. However, I'm planning on going down to Atlanta Saturday in the wake of those 11 or so planned Nazi protests. I know they were supposedly cancelled, but you can't trust a fucking Nazi as far as you can throw 'em.
Yo Nepenthe didn't know you lived in GA, woah. A small world after after all... Good on you! Now I feel like I have to do my part.
 
There haven’t been any near me. Supposedly there’s an anti-Muslim rally coming next month under the guise of “free speech” and I will probably go and counter-protest that.
 

cr0w

Old Member
I don't intend to be at the front lines. I'm mostly going to lend my presence to the crowd. I'm not sticking around if people start shit.

If he pardons Arpaio it's going to be a clusterfuck.



Yeah man, you should only be allowed to protest if you pay for it.

It's a lot easier to be reactive than proactive. I realize getting up from Witcher 3 to cast your vote is inconvenient, but it does a little bit more good than waiting until shit goes bad to worry about it.
 
Also, to those saying "they don't do anything/aren't worth my time", it's not entirely about forcing an agenda or an outcome. Forming bonds with like-minded people and being part of a community is the best way to combat the shit going on right now.

Donate of course, support causes of course, vote for and promote elected officials who you agree with of course; but physically sharing a space (if you're able to) with people who think like and believe in the same things you do is both comforting and empowering.

It's a lot easier to be reactive than proactive. I realize getting up from Witcher 3 to cast your vote is inconvenient, but it does a little bit more good than waiting until shit goes bad to worry about it.

Seriously what are you even talking about here. Protesters don't vote?
 

rudger

Member
Cause life. And protesting in a city predominantly anti-Trump only annoys the citizenry and makes the protestors feel good. It accomplishes nothing and the inconvenience it can create can actually hurt your cause. Depends on the city though.
 

Ottaro

Member
Dallas is a two hour drive.

Now that fundraiser thing sounds cool. If I can get my lazy ass out of bed I'll do it.

Ahh, sorry mate. I hope you can make it though. I will probably post details about the fundraiser protest in the Dallas community OT when they become available.

Is facebook the best place for locating events local to north texas?

Genuine question, I'm not on facebook but may need to rejoin if it's the primary way organizers are using to plan collective actions.

Honestly, yes. Its the only thing I use my old fb account for anymore. It makes it really easy to invite people you know too, which is probably why organizers use it so heavily. In the description section of the event (https://www.facebook.com/events/306127879798238??ti=ia)they have a list of supporting organizations worth looking into, and check out the In Solidarity organization as well.
 
The Hatch Act has gray areas and I would prefer to avoid any surprise disciplinary action that could include not having a career.

I'm not really active on social media anyway but I avoid joining anti-government/partisan groups to steer clear of violating the aforementioned law, so chances are low that I will be aware of grassroots protests/rallies before they happen.

Do I pass OPs purity test? Probably not.
 

Horns

Member
I live in the DC area and protested on inauguration day inside the security zone. I gave that racist fuck the finger when he went by. Did the women's day March the following day. Have another local one tomorrow.
 
It's a lot easier to be reactive than proactive. I realize getting up from Witcher 3 to cast your vote is inconvenient, but it does a little bit more good than waiting until shit goes bad to worry about it.
Seriously, what are you on about? The local Dem/BLM activists here were doing carpool for those who had to work and signing people up to vote. Are you just projecting?
 

Euron

Member
I've been to 2 of them (Women's March and We are All Muslim) in Midtown Manhattan this year but haven't been able to attend any this summer because of work. Plus classes for my major are generally at night so unless something is on a weekend it's difficult for me.

Cause life. And protesting in a city predominantly anti-Trump only annoys the citizenry and makes the protestors feel good. It accomplishes nothing and the inconvenience it can create can actually hurt your cause. Depends on the city though.
There's a tremendous value to protesting in NYC though. It tells Trump that his home hates him and given his severely thin skin, you know he hears it and it gets to him.
 

Tizocc

Neo Member
No because I dont think protests do anything. I feel the only way to make a change in this world is with money.
 

LaMagenta

Member
So this forum is pretty much 100% Anti-Trump, with hundreds, maybe thousands of posts displaying disgust, rage and utter disbelief being posted every day.

This thread is aimed at Americans, because this is the one thing that strikes me not only as odd, but leaves me pretty distraught and led me to being incredibly cynical about not only the concept of America as a country, but the American populace specifically: Why are there so few protests? With which I mean:

Why aren't there country-wide protests of thousands of people in every large city every single week? A few months ago the Women's March gave me the impression this would be the start of a resistant movement, showing where the will of the american people truly lies. Turns out: It wasn't the beginning, it was the end. The Women's March didn't start a wildfire that spread across the country and only got bigger with every single terrible thing Trump has said and done, but...didn't do anything, really.

Obviously, there are protests and rallys, as the tragedy in CHarlottesville has shown us. But they don't seem nearly as prevalent and big as I would assume.

Now your president didn't only pull you out of the biggest and most important climate deal in history, but also threatened nuclear war with another Country and showed his support for Neo-Nazis against the "Alt-Left".

If all of this was't enough to mobilize people, I don't see what could ever be. So I wanted to get more specific and I'm honestly interested in real answers, not only in blaming others: If you didn't go to a rally and showed your support against Trump, protesting his borderline insane regime - why not? What would have to happen for you to consider it?
Because that's only happening in the southern states.
 

Ottaro

Member
I'm sorry I think Twitter protests, online "activism" and periodic street blocking are less effective than actual voting.
The only reason politicians address half of our country's social issues is because we make a fuss in the streets about them and get the media's attention which in turn gets broader groups of people's attentions which in turn gets politicians attention. The protests are the start of conversations that we would not otherwise be having.

We would not even be having this confederate statue conversation without the protests, and look at how many cities are now suddenly moving forward with removals.
 

Ferrio

Banned
I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere, and the next city is a 6 hour drive and even there it'd be kinda stupid. Realistically I'd have to fly and spend $500 to go to an organized one and that's be like in Washington. Even with advanced notice I'd be spending $800 on a plane trip if I wanted to go to the east coast. Best I can do is throw money behind groups supporting the protesting.
 
If I miss even half a day of work I literally may not be able to make rent. I'm also a contractor and they could just can me if I take off for reasons they don't approve of, or just for missing too many hours.
 
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to due to really bad things happening in my family right now, but I help by donating to gofund me for ppl out there on the streets and whatever charity I can while I'm facing this challenge in my life as well. I also make phone calls to whoever I have to to do my part. If I could be on the streets right now, I would be
 

Switch Back 9

a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
I live in Canada, and can't be bothered. However, I will 100% be attending the counter-protest if those White Nationalist events end up taking place in Toronto.

Pretty unlikely but I'm always down to throw rocks at Nazis.
 
OP are you living in America? If not, would you mind sparing everyone the lecture about how they're not giving up enough of their daily quality of life to protest for your taste? The entire tone of the thread is ugly, no one needs to justify their daily choices to you and people can choose to show their opposition in the way they wish to. Everyone has a different strategic calculus about the utility of protest in their area, the danger they are likely to face if any, the message they want to send, and who they want to target with the message. Get off your high horse.

It's also pretty flippant to talk shit about how the Women's March was an end to protest when actually the current level of protest in the US is easily the largest in 15 years, probably more like in 40, with major protests and marches in most cities several times a month.
Thank you.

This thread seems made in bad faith, and if it wasn't, then that's even worse. Someone isn't paying attention if they think there aren't a lot of protests going on.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
What? Well okay but (certain) Dems have been advancing such agendas. And how is Pakistan ahead of the US on BLM and LGBTQ rights?

Certain people aren't the establishment or party in general.

Here's also what I mean.

The dems really went in to the hole post ERA on the subject and it's pathetic considering my group shouldn't have to argue why we need rights when it comes to places we own or rent.
 

SilentRob

Member
OP are you living in America? If not, would you mind sparing everyone the lecture about how they're not giving up enough of their daily quality of life to protest for your taste? The entire tone of the thread is ugly, no one needs to justify their daily choices to you and people can choose to show their opposition in the way they wish to. Everyone has a different strategic calculus about the utility of protest in their area, the danger they are likely to face if any, the message they want to send, and who they want to target with the message. Get off your high horse.

It's also pretty flippant to talk shit about how the Women's March was an end to protest when actually the current level of protest in the US is easily the largest in 15 years, probably more like in 40, with major protests and marches in most cities several times a month.

No, I am not living in America and still I already went to protests against Trump twice. Two reasons:

Your president's decisions have consequences for my country. America quitting the climate deal could have disastrous consequences and it is on me and other citizens to show our leaders that we will not accept "making a deal" with him.

Second reason: I come from a country that was utterly destroyed first because of explicit support of a dictatorial, power grabbing, extremist maniac and then because of silent compliance with his policies. I heard from grandmothers and great-grandfathers how they didn't protest Hitler because he promised great things economically (and seemed to deliver), presented a common enemy and then slowly eroded every single piece of government keeping him from gaining absolute control until it was too late and protesting would immediately get you killed.

I also come from a country that exists in the first place because common citizens protested and organized , playing a large part in reuniting not only two countries but countless families, too.

When the government threatened to weaken privacy laws for the sake of criminal investigations I protested among thousands in Berlin, bringing parts of the city to a halt, making the political leaders listen.

So yes. Given my history, the stories I have been told and the experiences I made - I don't feel like "coming off my high horse" while reading about people not really feeling like actually going out there because they'd have to drive for 20 minutes, because they have games to play, because they voted, because they dont think protests have any worth or because they haven't felt any negative consequences themselves. It makes me angry and frankly it should make you angry, too. The US right now is fucked in ways no western country has been for decades. And it has already started to fuck up the world at large. This is the fault of US citizens voting for an obvious maniac and supporting a racist, nationalist, dangerous party like the GOP for decades. It should be every sane's US citizens duty to do everything he can to remedy this situation.

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."

This is what MLK was talking about. This is that time.
 
OP are you living in America? If not, would you mind sparing everyone the lecture about how they're not giving up enough of their daily quality of life to protest for your taste? The entire tone of the thread is ugly, no one needs to justify their daily choices to you and people can choose to show their opposition in the way they wish to. Everyone has a different strategic calculus about the utility of protest in their area, the danger they are likely to face if any, the message they want to send, and who they want to target with the message. Get off your high horse.

It's also pretty flippant to talk shit about how the Women's March was an end to protest when actually the current level of protest in the US is easily the largest in 15 years, probably more like in 40, with major protests and marches in most cities several times a month.

Well said.
 

Gutek

Member
OP are you living in America? If not, would you mind sparing everyone the lecture about how they're not giving up enough of their daily quality of life to protest for your taste? The entire tone of the thread is ugly, no one needs to justify their daily choices to you and people can choose to show their opposition in the way they wish to. Everyone has a different strategic calculus about the utility of protest in their area, the danger they are likely to face if any, the message they want to send, and who they want to target with the message. Get off your high horse.

It's also pretty flippant to talk shit about how the Women's March was an end to protest when actually the current level of protest in the US is easily the largest in 15 years, probably more like in 40, with major protests and marches in most cities several times a month.


Disagree. Nazis are killing people in the streets with ISIS tactics. This is no time for deliberation. It’s time to stand up.
 
I'm about 2 and a half hours out of D.C, and with the amount of work I do, it has been hard to find the time to get down there. I know it's not an excuse, but it is what it is. I am exhausted and busy. I need to do better. I need to help more.

I did go to the women's march, and I plan to go to D.C. this weekend since there could be an Alt-Right protest. I also do call my representatives in congress every week or so. But I could do more.
 

Cyanity

Banned
I live in Massachusetts and have been to multiple anti-Trump protests. Wish I could go to the counter protest this weekend, but I'll be working :c
 
Dude there are protests everywhere. Just because the media doesn't highlight them for you does not mean they don't happen. Let's be honest here, unless the protest is happening in a big city, most people around the world will not hear of it, yet alone those living in the States.
 

Garlador

Member
You all should make some time to protest Trump. It's a great place to make some friends, and if nothing else affirm that as nutty and bad as things have been, there are great people taking a stand against intolerance and that you aren't alone.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Dude there are protests everywhere. Just because the media doesn't highlight them for you does not mean they don't happen. Let's be honest here, unless the protest is happening in a big city, most people around the world will not hear of it, yet alone those living in the States.


Why should OP consider that instead of calling Americans lazy? Calling people lazy is much more productive. /S
 
3 protests within the past week. Am working full-time and had class part-time this semester.

Give Wedge the "better than me" award.
miss ya buddy

I work all day outside in 110° weather and just have no energy to do a damn thing when I'm done with work.
 
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