WickedLaharl
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are you serious lmao.
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Final Fantasy XV Switch hinted
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are you serious lmao.
Skittzo0413
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The combat in the pocket version looked really bad, if this is based on that version I hope it's more just using the visuals from it and the gameplay from the console version.
Yeah? It's not like I carry it around all day in my pocket, but it fits fine for when I need to like go upstairs with it or something.
Yeah? It's not like I carry it around all day in my pocket, but it fits fine for when I need to like go upstairs with it or something.
WickedLaharl
Member
Well at least you admit it's not a feasible option for going out and about.
I... guess I can see the similarities? But these characters look like chibi people, they're kinda cute. The stuff for FFXV Pocket just looks so bad.
To get the PS4/XBO version to even fit on the biggest switch cart they'd have to cut the filesize in half. That means cutting the texture budget way back. That's probably why it'd be easier to start with the pocket edition as base.
I... guess I can see the similarities? But these characters look like chibi people, they're kinda cute. The stuff for FFXV Pocket just looks so bad.
Yeah, the only thing they have in common is the chibi look. The artstyle used for the DS games is a million times better.
MAtgS
Member
The textures would probably need to be cut in half just to run on Switch at all, so it sorta all works out in an odd way.
LordKasual
Banned
FUCK me this chibi style is ugly
the game actually looks pretty cool tho
They need to never again try to emulate that World of Final Fantasy look. It's the Square Enix equivalent of shovelface
the game actually looks pretty cool tho
They need to never again try to emulate that World of Final Fantasy look. It's the Square Enix equivalent of shovelface
I always feel like PS4/XBO/PC games are bloated as hell and maybe this will get them to compress things and get the file size down. Either way, the game can fit on the cart, but it would be bigger because there WOULD be patches and DLC, so that game will balloon anyway for that simple reason. They can get the initial game to fit on at 32GB cart, I think.
When did he say this and how would he know that?
EmCeeGramr
Member
It's going to kick ass when it's the Pocket Edition with minor graphical tweaks, amiibo support to get Mario caps and the Master Sword, and a co-op mode where the left joycon is Noctis and the right joycon is Noctis with a hat
I'll let you find the quote, and its because he has heard things from the inside. Relatively unspecific things, but specific enough to say for sure that they're currently thinking about basing it on the pocket edition.
Conjecture on my part: and the reason is clearly because SE live in the real world where FFXV, FFVII, KH3 etc are too demanding games for the Switch.
I said it months ago and I was right. The only way that game was coming to Switch was to compromise to the point it was essentially a different game. Woo, go me.
Jampsuliini
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Jaded Alyx
Member
You also continue to say the Switch is barely more powerful than the PS3, so...
I bet the Switch can run a heavily downgraded version of FFXV but would it be worth it? Who would be satisfied with that version of the game?
At minimum I imagine textures would take a huge hit, poly count on character models would be scaled back, visual effects in combat removed, enemy counts reduced, among other compromises. And performance issues could still be present. Who would want to buy that game?
At minimum I imagine textures would take a huge hit, poly count on character models would be scaled back, visual effects in combat removed, enemy counts reduced, among other compromises. And performance issues could still be present. Who would want to buy that game?
No I don't, I say it's PS3.33, as in its more powerful than the PS3 but it's not in the same league as ps4 and xbox one. Which is 100% true.
I'm not dissing the Switch, I have one, love it. Its incredible.
I'm just not delusional.
No, the platform that's both appreciably faster than the PS3 with 8x the memory isn't a PS3 1.33, that's just idiotic. It's no PS4, but it's far and away outside the realm of last gen too.
It'll be the pocket edition and it'll look like ass just as it does now. People are better off confronting this now.
It'll be the pocket edition and it'll look like ass just as it does now. People are better off confronting this now.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
This would be amazing and I'd double dip. Would take it over pocket edition in a heartbeat.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Thank you.
PS3.33 as in slightly closer to ps360 gen than ps4one gen. Yeah that's on the ball.
You can cherry pick stats to make you feel better all you like...
But show me all the current gen ports.
Edit: unless you think I meant 33% faster than a PS3?
Eh, that's generally wrong too. Between having much more memory, a modern maxwell GPU, and nvidia developed APIs, it would be closer to modern platforms than last gen ones, not that it matters given the gap anyway.
Ah, yes, the dastardly stats and information.
They're probably not happening since the handheld is slower than the PS4/Xbox One which I've always said is true.
NoKisum
Member
My biggest worry about a potential Switch version has nothing to do with the graphical styling (I have no problem with its look getting downgraded), and everything to do with the gameplay. Odd magic system aside, I highly enjoyed the battle system. And if the gameplay gets a downgrade, then I want no part of it.
I don't think the game has to be changed into a damn chibi game to actually run on the NS. It's not that weak. Who knows what kind of overhead they have as far as the engine they are using currently. Maybe they've figured something out, or they're using a different engine entirely. Either way, I think the NS can run FFXV without being a chibi game. If they go that route, then I feel the game is doomed. Just like Wii ports of old. I think they can get all of those games running on the NS and the games would still look fairly good. So I hold firm that they're giving us a graphically toned down PS4/XBO game instead of this mobile game. If it would have been that game, what would have been the point of not announcing it right then. Do people honestly believe that folks want a stripped down (feature wise) version of the game on the NS? I can't believe that Square Enix thinks that or believe that would sell.
I could be wrong about what version they're going with, but the NS is powerful enough to get have those games running it without a HUGE amount of compromise. Still, if the graphics get downgraded, I think people would be fine with that, but they would want all of the features included. It's the exact same game as the PS4 version, with graphics toned down a bit would be the best case scenario, I think.
SS
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Unconfirmed Member
PS4/XB1 version or I'm out
AlexFlame116
Member
This is probably the thing I want most besides the full game on Switch with no downgrades. But that one ain't happening haha.
Spieler Eins
Member
Thor 2: The Dark World.
We don't know anything about this version yet. Not need in jumping to conclusions until we know for sure. I'm with you, though. If it's the chibi version, then I'm out. My wife is, too. I hope they don't go down that path, but I'm willing to hold my judgement until we know for sure. I'm cautiously excited at the moment. I just think that if it was the chibi version, they would have said it right then.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Yup. I'm out if its anything like the pocket versikn
I'd be extremely surprised. FFXV pushes pretty high production values and is pushing the PS4/XBO envelope as is, is my understanding. This is exactly the kind of game I see as least likely to hit Switch.
But...I also do think Final Fantasy would have something to find on Switch, especially in Japan, going forward, if it would pull back production ambitions. I think a PS4(/XBO/PC)/Switch FFXVI could be a good idea, but I'd never guess that they'd go that route.
IDK. We'll see if this even happens and what shape it takes. It'll be strange if it does, but a good sign for Switch support from SE.
But...I also do think Final Fantasy would have something to find on Switch, especially in Japan, going forward, if it would pull back production ambitions. I think a PS4(/XBO/PC)/Switch FFXVI could be a good idea, but I'd never guess that they'd go that route.
IDK. We'll see if this even happens and what shape it takes. It'll be strange if it does, but a good sign for Switch support from SE.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I can't see Square passing off Pocket edition for Switch as an actual version of FFXV meant to be sold alongside the PS4/Xbone/PC versions without it backfiring in a major way. Who would that version be for?
It'll be a new version with new assets and still somehow come out as worse than just porting Pocket Edition!
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Yea probably not, but we're getting DQXI in at least two forms sooo....
AlexFlame116
Member
Final Fantasy XV: The King and The Omen by Telltale Games exclusive for Nintendo Switch coming this July 2018.
I would buy it. :|
While not confirmed I'm not sure if it makes sense to expect anything but the bare minimum from square.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Honestly that last sentence seemed extremely out of place at the time but I guess it makes sense now. Sigh...
Hey random stats to support my story
PS3 Gigaflops 200
Switch Gigaflops Docked 400
PS4 Gigaflops 1800
But of course these numbers don't tell anywhere near the whole story. The proof is in the games. And now more specifically the fact that we know at least one game that SE would like to port to Switch but can't, so are building it off a mobile game instead.
- Well, not can't- won't.
- What you're illustrating with those numbers is that the Switch is a closer relative to modern platforms than older ones when mixing in the newer architecture, APIs, and greater memory.
Hero of Legend
Member
Honestly I think FF15 should be do-able enough to not require using that awful looking Pocket Edition. I mean we have games like Xenoblade 2 showing a pretty open-world game is do-able on Switch. And really the Switch should do a good job emulating the visuals to a point with its modern hardware. This isn't the Wii U or something.
Hey if they have to break-up the world maybe with loading screens so be it, big whoop. As long as it looks great and is a real effort, I'm there day 1.
Hey if they have to break-up the world maybe with loading screens so be it, big whoop. As long as it looks great and is a real effort, I'm there day 1.
The pretty graphics are one of the game's biggest draws, beside that the game is actually very flawed...
@ Everyone who would be alright playing the Pocket Edition on Switch. Do we even know if this version is still open world? From the trailer the world looked much smaller and more enclosed. The open world is another part that made the original game great...imo.
Well I hated the original FFXV but I'd be interested in a cuter, simpler version. Depends on how it plays though. I generally prefer abstract cartoony Final Fantasy.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Is it feasible to compress the game down to 32 GB without removing stuff or making the voices sound like Resident Evil 2 on N64? Game is way over 50 GB after patches.
JordanN
Banned
If you look at the history of Nintendo consoles, it might as well be.
Even the Wii was technically more powerful than the original Xbox, yet it made very little difference when ports would come from the PS2 instead of the PS3.
Switch is the same issue. If there isn't a PS3/360 or any weaker platform version planned aside, asking for anything else is just a disappointment in the making.
No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you are using numbers you don't understand to support a position that you have taken for...some reason. Brand loyalty?
Amazingly when I pointed that out,you proceeded to try to further analyse the numbers you dont understand. You sir are a martyr to your cause. I salute you.
Being even half way to this generation would be enough. But it's not. And it's crazy to think SE are not porting XV as is just because they "won't". SE may not always make decisions that make sense to us, but they're still a business. If they had the option of porting FFXV as is they would. But they don't because Switch isn't powerful enough.