seattle got very expensive.
Anyone remember when rent was $900 a month?
seattle got very expensive.
Anyone remember when rent was $900 a month?
Should do Columbus, Ohio, affordable and up and coming, pretty much one of the only growing cities in the Midwest. Also has a huge number of Universities in the state and of course OSU. Its also a pretty central regional hub 3 hours from Indianapolis, 3 hours from Pittsburgh, 2 hours from Cleveland, 1 1/2 hours from Cincinnati, 3 hours from Detroit/Toledo. Over 2 million population in the metro area now.
Spoken like someone that drinks the Dan Gilbert coolaid.
Detroit has one tiny strip in the middle. The rest of the city remains largely burned out, zombie land. Google is in the suburbs (Novi and Ann Arbor, 30min+ freeway drive away). Microsoft just moved from Southfield to Detroit. There's no public transportation. The Qline is another people mover joke. Car insurance is insane.
Royal Oak/Novi/Ann Arbor/Ferndale/Birmingham/etc are fine cities, but for a company that specifically wants a vibrant urban campus, Amazon would be better off moving to Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids.
When was that?
- Toronto
- Ottawa
My brother paid $600 a month on Capitol Hill for about six years around the early aughtsAnyone remember when rent was $900 a month?
My brother paid $600 a month on Capitol Hill for about six years around the early aughts
Nope, it was a pretty huge 1br near SU.Studio, I'm guessing? Because even back then, a one bedroom at that price in that area would be a steal.
I don't think 94/35 could sustain the increase in traffic without serious work (they already can't sustain it). Sure there's a light rail, but realistically it couldn't serve 50,000 more employees. I don't live in the cities, but I don't live that far out and travel through frequently.As I stand in downtown Minneapolis as light rail train bells echo a block away, in the shadow of my Fortune 500 employer's HQ and across the street from another, and within eyesight of 3 others - not to mention the dozen Fortune 500 HQ in a 10 mile radius I can't see, I know you clearly don't know the area.
I mean shit, three of them are retail (Target, Best Buy, Super Value).
Plus a ton of large corporate offices that aren't head quartered here like Amazon would be.
Edmonton lol, just joking, but there are some nice towers going up in down town. If they can find talents it can be a attractive option here since things are still very cheap and housing price is at it lowest point atm compare to all major cities in the US. Had an job interview with a real estate company recently and they have been putting up warehouses at an insane rate because many international companies decided to store their stuffs here since B.C has gotten way too expensive. Time for our premier, Rachel to do some work if they really mean to diversify AB economy.
Why do they say North America?
Is Canada and Mexico a serious consideration?
I reiterate, Canada has some of the best software devs/schools in the world, world leader in AI research, has good costs and a city like Toronto already has a huuuuuge base of talent to pick from. Amazon regularly tries to hire from the city (I just double checked my linkedIn and I've had recruiters repping amazon at me twice in the last year), and quite a few large tech companies are opening or investing in large (usually AI oriented) software bases in the city.
Canada, and I'd say more specifically Toronto, is a serious, serious contender.
And I don't want to keep repeating this point, but surely in the current political climate, having your second HQ outside of America and not subject to Trump's whims isn't a bad thing at all.
Why do they say North America?
Is Canada and Mexico a serious consideration?
With the current facility in the NW, I think they'll go SE, S or E...you know where the people are. The Midwest, while viable isn't where the people and thus business is on the whole. The corn isn't buying Amazon products.
That's fair.
I will eat my hat if Amazon picks Ottawa over Toronto lol. Ain't nobody going to do that
Hmm, I'm very skeptical of a place like Amazon going to where there is snow sometimes for 4 months or more out of the year.
And I don't want to keep repeating this point, but surely in the current political climate, having your second HQ outside of America and not subject to Trump's whims isn't a bad thing at all.
This headquarters won't be finished until after 2020. Only reason they'd pick Canada is if h1b cut backs make it so Canada is easier to get immigrant labor.
This headquarters won't be finished until after 2020. Only reason they'd pick Canada is if h1b cut backs make it so Canada is easier to get immigrant labor.
Is this related? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-amazon-plans-mega-warehouse-140306934.html (Mexico)
Is this related? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-amazon-plans-mega-warehouse-140306934.html (Mexico)
Not the only reason, but a big one. Canada's federal government just pushed through a fast track program for tech industry temporary foreign workers, so that they can be in the job in two weeks. This was after pressure from Microsoft in Vancouver. Now roughly 80% of the workers in that office are not Canadian. Amazon may well do the same. Canada's laws are set up in such a way that it is often cheaper to hire foreign workers than domestic ones, and now much easier as well.
Canada does offer public healthcare, lower corporate taxes, a cheaper dollar, and a large urban base and Toronto is on Eastern time, likely a major consideration. Canada is also pretty good at training high quality labour r but pressured by brain drain by its larger southern neighbor to try and find ways to keep that talent in the country.
Toronto does have issues around poor urban planning that make it a less than ideal city for a lot of workers, however - long commutes, expensive housing and a worthless and small minded NIMBY attitude among owners and councillors make it hard to see that changing. Workers moving to Toronto may find better opportunities elsewhere, much like has already happened to a limited degree in finance.
50,000 people at one site? Really? Thing is going to be massive.
Yeah they definitely looking at white upper middle class and everyone know it.
100K average for real though? Or is that in West Coast money? Seems pretty high for some random low tier office job on that end of the spectrum. I bet the bigs get paid a super amount to get that average higher.
I think the Research Triangle (Raleigh-Durham) would be a perfect fit for them actually.
I will eat my hat if Amazon picks Ottawa over Toronto lol. Ain't nobody going to do that
Why do they say North America?
Is Canada and Mexico a serious consideration?
Why do they say North America?
Is Canada and Mexico a serious consideration?
I will eat a big ass plate of crow if they choose somewhere in Mexico. Canada I can see happening since they speak English. Foreign engineers are plentiful in the [current US] tech industry and while many Indians speak English, most do not speak Spanish.
From what I've read, Canada has more lax laws on visas, so if anything, it would make most sense to move to Canada
It would cripple the federal government with the mass exodus of employees lolI will eat my hat if Amazon picks Ottawa over Toronto lol. Ain't nobody going to do that