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Hearthstone |OT10| Ultimate Infuriation
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Karsticles
Member
He shouldn't cause overload.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Overload is a part of the spell, it should have always caused overload, the same way it always causes discards from discard spells.
Nah
Yogg's spells don't cost you mana when they are cast, because Yogg is casting them, not you. It doesn't make sense that Yogg is casting spells and overloading your mana because of it.
It's the same reason that Yogg casting Bloodbloom shouldn't do damage to you.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
If you counterspell an overload spell, the caster does not get overloaded because the overload is not a cost but the effect that happens from the spell text going through.
Bloodbloom doesn't deal damage because yogg is not casting spells, it's casting a string of battlecry effects. On the other hand, Bloodbloom makes your next spell cost health instead of mana, so you can cast a spell after yogg resolves that costs health instead of mana.
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woo rank 5
When I got that 3 drop I was like wut... can I lose this now? Cause before that I thought i had 100% lock, and then my mind went, wow. In hindsight I was probably 99% lock to win that lol
You're 1/3rd of the way to a decent priest deck!
TheChewyWaffles
Member
OK now that innervate sucks, what do I put in place of it in Jade Druid?
A Priest Deck.
Karsticles
Member
Blizzard has been very clear since the card was released that Yogg is casting the spells, not the player. Otherwise Shadowstepping a Yogg should result in the next play doing double spells. It's an illogical inconsistency.
Goddamn, nice.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
And overload is part of the spell just the same as any other text is part of the spell. Whether you cast arcane missiles or yogg casts arcane missles you get the 3 random damage to enemy targets. Whether you cast lightning storm or yogg casts lightning storm, you get the full text of the card which includes overload.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
But I thought the patch notes said they were deleting priest.
Cut the Innervates and run 2x Feral Rage if you weren't already. If you were, you can run some other anti-aggro tools like Tar Creeper or Primordial Drake. Drake is probably better since the AoE is helpful in other situations too (murlocs).
Karsticles
Member
Right, but Yogg should be the one suffering overload, which is meaningless. Not the player. The player isn't casting anything.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Innervate, since when does Counterfeit Coin suck? Especially with how you're looking to empty your hand to not overdraw with UI.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Those were only the patch notes in my dreams.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
It's consistent with minions with overload text. You play FWF and you get 2 overload. You play yogg that battlecries an overload card, you get overload. Consistent. Remember, overload is not specific to spells, it can be on minions. If your minion plays an overload spell, it's like the battlecry said overload on it.
SonicXtreme
Member
i think it's time for some sideshow spelleater to bring anduin DK over to some suprise classes
BananasWithGuns
Member
Not particularly surprising, that card is busted.
This expansion is full of bonemare and spellbreaker to counter the card. The only thing we need now is taunt on bonemare to have it as an option for stonehill defender.
SonicXtreme
Member
recruit pally still playing v nice even though only expansion card added is bonemare. hex, win axe, warleader plague and innervate nerfs are all huge boosts for it making for a pretty tasty deck atm
well damn... and I'm here happy with my measly 2000 lol
Karsticles
Member
"You" being the key word. You play Yogg, and Yogg doesn't have Overload text. YOGG casts spells, and anything he casts has him as the caster. It doesn't make sense that YOU are getting Overload when Yogg is the caster. If I am not casting these spells, I should not be taking Overload for them.
The Wild Discord jokes that a common card is a better 7-drop than Dr. Boom.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Thank you Thrall, you beautiful bastard.
I dropped the game for 2 weeks, and today, while navegating steam I saw in the storefront that smite tactics was avaliable for beta. I tried the game, and I realized that it has that "hi rez aura" that makes the game feel super cheap and dull, so I uninstalled it after the tutorial (which didn't know how to sell very well the game)
So after reminding myself that CCG are a thing I reinstalled Hearthstone just in time for the nerfs, and I even crafted the savjz discard deck that was published today, is very hard to pull the combo when you manage to drop more tan 3-4 cards, but overall, is cool when it happens.
So, since I kinda returned to the game, how are things shaping out after the patches? will be like most of us here predicted tan priest will get even more op and that druid will not suffer that much?
So after reminding myself that CCG are a thing I reinstalled Hearthstone just in time for the nerfs, and I even crafted the savjz discard deck that was published today, is very hard to pull the combo when you manage to drop more tan 3-4 cards, but overall, is cool when it happens.
So, since I kinda returned to the game, how are things shaping out after the patches? will be like most of us here predicted tan priest will get even more op and that druid will not suffer that much?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Priest's Ungoro pack had a second Lyra. What are the odds.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Lol, you can definitely see the Innvervate impact. Multiple times I've seen a Druid set up plays with the assumption that Innervate gives 2 mana. I guess it's just so ingrained in the brain at this point.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Yeah really wish they would've nerfed it differently. Refresh 2 crystals would've been a much better choice in my opinion. What they did was just lame shit.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Man, Warrior is so bad now lol. I still don't know what Blizzard was thinking with that War Axe change. There were so many other avenues they could have taken if they wanted to his Pirate Warrior.
Hope they have some good stuff planned for Warrior or else this class is going straight to the basement. Of course I have no faith in Blizzard to do that as I'm sure we'll just get a bunch of garbage enrage cards.
Hope they have some good stuff planned for Warrior or else this class is going straight to the basement. Of course I have no faith in Blizzard to do that as I'm sure we'll just get a bunch of garbage enrage cards.
I don't think you can really nerf Frost Bolt, as good as it is. Something like Fireball has a little more wiggle room.
That's what people said about War Axe.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
To be fair FWA is a 2 use weapon and frostbolt isn't
but I would nerf it anyways
but I would nerf it anyways
BigJonsson
Member
Free 100 gold for talk like a pirate day!
What girl are you talking about? Pirate warrior cards?
BigJonsson
Member
Pulled Sindragosa
Keep or dust?
Keep or dust?
Keep unless you like opening another one and getting ripped off for dust.
BananasWithGuns
Member
So I guess now face Hunter is just replacing Pirate Warrior.
It never ends...
It never ends...
Well, at least hunter are back.
I mean, unless you want neverending 25-minute priest games without the possibility of ranking up before the next season starts, the existence of some sort of aggro class is a balancing force in the universe.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Funnily enough, I've played probably about 25 games today and haven't seen a single Priest. I guess Priest meta is MIA for me. Majority of my matchups are aggro/Jade Druid, face Hunter and secret Mage.
Anyway, I think my favorite deck right now is probably Keleseth Rogue. It might just be the best thing to come out of this expansion.
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