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[FinaruDensetsu]

I wonder if the Oscars are already working on getting Steve Bannon. Not like he'd accept, but at this point I bet Hollywood would love it.

If they could bring back Hitler from the dead, I bet Hollywood would try to make him the most lovable goof with a funny mustache.

 

[gutter_trash]

*beaten

 

[Surfinn]

Let's not even go as far as saying he should have quit. Because I guarantee the next reply that guy is going to make is "family's gotta eat!" or some bullshit.

He had a perfectly fine job within the government before this where he wouldn't have to be the guy to spew lies and propagandize to the American people. He could have simply not applied for this job in the first place.

OK

Dude stayed on the job after MONTHS, lying about everything from patently false things like crowd size and Trump tweets/conversations/interactions to

DEFENDING FUCKING HITLER

.. then left because he didn't like someone Trump hired for COMMUNICATIONS. THAT was the red line for him.

Yeah he could have fucking left whenever he wanted. He chose to stay. Until he just didn't want to anymore.

 

[MCN]

I feel a bit put out by seeing Colbert being matey with Spicer. After all he has said against that administration, to be all lol you lied a lot, is quite a slap in the face to his fans.

America can keep James Corden too, fuck that guy.

America got Piers Morgan for a while, too. Looks like American chat shows are where we send our cunts.

 

[enzo_gt]

Yeah this is a bad look. I'm not with making people complicit in all the terrible things the administration has done celebrities and painting how fun they are when they're not spreading fear, misinformation, paranoia, and oppression to the masses.

 

[MCN]

If they could bring back Hitler from the dead, I bet Hollywood would try to make him the most lovable goof with a funny mustache.

Jimmy Kimmel would stroke the fucking 'tache.

 

[shintoki]

Talk about falling upwards

 

[kiguel182]

In the end it just shows Colbert and all these dudes don't give a fuck about you. It's all in their self interest and a way to make money.

They are rich and this administration is on their side.

Like, I'm not even American and I'm fucking pissed. Spineless, all of them.

Except for Perlman.

 

[Suzzopher]

So Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway to Co-host the Oscars?

I swear if I see Meryl Streep and Spicer hugging in a picture we are done as a species.

 

[Surfinn]

So Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway to Co-host the Oscars?

Oh my god

 

[AdventureRacing]

I love that Pearlman types out muthafucka

Respect to him for actually speaking out. Fuck all the people there taking selfies and having a great time with him.

 

[Host Samurai]

You don't take the job. It's pretty simple.

If you don't want to support a white supremacist you don't work for him. It's very easy.

Fair enough.

 

[rambis]

OK

Dude stayed on the job after MONTHS, lying about everything from patently false things like crowd size and Trump tweets/conversations/interactions to

DEFENDING FUCKING HITLER

.. then left because he didn't like someone Trump hired for COMMUNICATIONS. THAT was the red line for him.

Yeah he could have fucking left whenever he wanted. He chose to stay. Until he just didn't want to anymore.

I mean are you mad just to be mad? He never defended Hitler. He made a horrible attempt of painting Assad as worse than Hitler and they failed horribly at walking it back.

He did a public service. I rather we have a 1000 lying Spicers than what Trump and co likely dream about, not having a press corp at all and issuing written unilateral statements.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

In the end it just shows Colbert and all these dudes don't give a fuck about you. It's all in their self interest and a way to make money.

They are rich and this administration is on their side.

Like, I'm not even American and I'm fucking pissed. Spineless, all of them.

Except for Perlman.

Yup. Everyone can find out online how much ratings for these shows are affected based on whether they make jokes about the Trump administration or not (basically every show vs. Jimmy Fallon).

If you want to lambast the Trump administration and actually be honest about your condemnation of it (NOT Colbert) then great, but when you make fun of the evil people within that administration only to take friendly selfies with them when you finally meet them in person, I think you're showing your true colors (i.e. telling the jokes just for the ratings jump).

No one can actually know, but I just couldn't see someone like Jon Stewart doing what Colbert did.

 

[Surfinn]

I mean are you mad just to be mad? He never defended Hitler. He made a horrible attempt of painting Assad as worse than Hitler and they failed horribly at walking it back.

He did a public service. I rather we have a 1000 lying Spicers than what Trump and co likely dream about, not having a press corp at all and issuing written unilateral statements.

I'm just passionate.

And fucking lol at the bolded. You can't possibly believe that

He unintentionally defended Hitler "even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons" by trying to make Assad look worse. Which was just another one of his lies.

 

[CloudWolf]

GAF I want to make this 100% abundantly clear, I was the first person in the world to hate James Corden. Seriously I fucking despise him and always have, check my post history. You're all a bunch of poser James Corden-haters.

The only person I hate more is Chris Martin, and he would never do this. Since I just praised that sanctimonious, pretentious twat, I now need to shower. It's a good thing I already needed a shower (seriously I stink right now).

Are you British? Because I think pretty much every Brit hating Corden caused him to move to America to start a new career. I've heard multiple British people be surprised Corden has become one of the most popular late night hosts because he was/is an absolutely terrible comedian.

 

[thepotatoman]

It was Colbert's idea.

He and his producers knew there would be blowback. And there's been a whole lot.

But Colbert thought it would be funny and surprising, and that's what mattered most.

That sums up the situation pretty well. Putting entertainment above everything else.

 

[Suzzopher]

I just don't get how you make Trump jokes then introduce Sean Spicer the former mouth piece for the man you just ripped into. Then be all matey with him. If you honestly believe what you say about Trump don't fucking buddy up to one of his former employees. Especially one who openly lied to entire world day in day out.

 

[Loudninja]

It was Colbert's idea.

This is so disappointing.

 

[Burli]

It was fucked up.

Did anyone spot a reaction from John Oliver or Donald Glover? I can expect a bunch of entitled white Holywoodians to react with delight but I'd be genuinely dismayed to see either of those twos in any state other than 'wtf?'.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/18/media/stephen-colbert-sean-spicer/index.html

I'm on mobile, but basically CNN put up an article where they basically confirm that the entire thing was Colbert's idea initially and that he doesn't think this normalizes Spicer because to paraphrase "Trump already does that"

This to me confirms that Colbert doesn't write any of his own material because he's a dumbass.

He can't see the difference between the Trump administration normalizing Spicer and one of the most visible people supposedly on the left, based on his viewership, normalizing Spicer in front of a huge audience who are supposedly fervently on the side of the people (despite them being possibly some of the people who are the most detached from the common person)?

 

[rambis]

I'm just passionate.

And fucking lol at the bolded. You can't possibly believe that

He unintentionally defended Hitler "even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons" by trying to make Assad look worse. Which was just another one of his lies.

A fallacy of moral equilivance isn't the same thing as defending something. Both things can be bad. I also think that was more of a case of ignorance than them lying. The biggest issue is that he broke the golden rule of never comparing anything to hitler/the holocaust.

Also yes, I don't think people realize how important of a job Spicer had. Having some member of the administration regularly accountable for answering for DJT's BS is a privilege that this admin has tried to take away several times already. We may hate people like spicer and the chick now but we absolutely need them if the press is to serve as any kind of check on the President's agenda/policies.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

It was Colbert's idea.

welp lol

 

[Puck Beaverton]

Stop supporting Colbert.

 

[Surfinn]

A fallacy of moral equilivance isn't the same thing as defending something. Both things can be bad. I also think that was more of a case of ignorance than them lying. The biggest issue is that he broke the golden rule of never comparing anything to hitler/the holocaust.

Also yes, I don't think people realize how important of a job Spicer had. Having some member of the administrations regularly accountable for answering for DJT's BS is a privilege that this admin has tried to take away several times already.

You think Spicer truly believed that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons when he said that? Alright.

And you think Spicer standing in front of the world, daily, and lying was his secret plan of trying to do the best he could for everyone. Even though he just randomly decided to quit once Trump did something that personally affected him. And that this was all somehow the right thing for him to do, and not only that, but considered a public service. Alright.

Instead of you know

Telling the fucking truth for once and getting people to realize how dangerous peddling Trump's blatant lies as truth really is

 

[Zaphrynn]

A fallacy of moral equilivance isn't the same thing as defending something. Both things can be bad. I also think that was more of a case of ignorance than them lying. The biggest issue is that he broke the golden rule of never comparing anything to hitler/the holocaust.

Also yes, I don't think people realize how important of a job Spicer had. Having some member of the administrations regularly accountable for answering for DJT's BS is a privilege that this admin has tried to take away several times already.

I would bet money that Spicer's "ignorance" was pure dog whistling to the white supremacists in Trump's base. They do this shit too often and in such a perfect way (so they can deny, and idiots believe them while white supremacists nod their heads knowingly) for it to be a gaff. Who the hell would ever even think to call concentration camps "Holocaust Centers". Wtf? It's not even an easy word to roll off the tongue, and it sounds completely foreign to hear.

Your second paragraph is completely dismissive of Spicer's role in all this. He is an adult. He chooses to make the actions and speak the words he does. He is accountable for the lies he spewed and the people that have been directly hurt because of those lies.

 

[Messofanego]

If they could bring back Hitler from the dead, I bet Hollywood would try to make him the most lovable goof with a funny mustache.

There's literally a movie about just that. It's called Look Who's Back (it's on Netflix).

 

[Laz-E-Boy]

Not surprised Spicer is being treated like some harmless goofball.

Someone in this thread made a remark about liberal comedians that I'm beginning to agree with. I have a lot of respect for the work Colbert and Jon Stewert do but for the last few months I feel like the importance of their "voice" is severely overestimated and at times can be a detriment.

 

[Volimar]

Well, you can't argue with Ron Perlman.

 

[DietRob]

Stop supporting Colbert.

No thanks. He's great.

 

[Rentahamster]

Not surprised Spicer is being treated like some harmless goofball.

Someone in this thread made a remark about liberal comedians that I'm beginning to agree with. I have a lot of respect for the work Colbert and Jon Stewert do but for the last few months I feel like the importance of their "voice" is severely overestimated and at times can be a detriment.

If you're looking for people who actually speak truth to power, pay attention to how consistent they are and if they still do it even when it's not in their own financial or social/career interests.

 

[Green Yoshi]

The ruling class is having a joke at our expense

Why should they show respect for a society that voted someone like Trump into the White House? If you elect a clown don't complain about the circus.

 

[Puck Beaverton]

No thanks. He's great.

He's on the same level as Fallon. Rake him.

 

[BajiBoxer]

I would bet money that Spicer's "ignorance" was pure dog whistling to the white supremacists in Trump's base. They do this shit too often and in such a perfect way (so they can deny, and idiots believe them while white supremacists nod their heads knowingly) for it to be a gaff. Who the hell would ever even think to call concentration camps "Holocaust Centers". Wtf? It's not even an easy word to roll off the tongue, and it sounds completely foreign to hear.

Your second paragraph is completely dismissive of Spicer's role in all this. He is an adult. He chooses to make the actions and speak the words he does. He is accountable for the lies he spewed and the people that have been directly hurt because of those lies.

I agree. Spicer is a well educated military man. People shouldn't be infantalizing him.

 

[Kinsei]

That sums up the situation pretty well. Putting entertainment above everything else.

Yep. Most of the upper class oppose Trump because it's good for their image. They don't really care about the people negatively affected by the administration.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Why should they show respect for a society that voted someone like Trump into the White House? If you elect a clown don't complain about the circus.

Trump lost the popular vote. Electoral College chose him for money/political power/Russian reacharounds

 

[MUnited83]

Even CNN thinks this was not cool. The Emmys couldn't even clear that low-ass bar

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/spicer-emmys-speech/index.html

eh, CNN is far worse. Constantly hiring Trump croneys to come speak their bullshit for ratings. A lot worse then a simple joke making fun of how much of a lying piece of shit Spicer is.

 

[danm999]

You see, context matters.
1) I never defended nor praised Sean Spicer for what he did
2) However, that does not mean that I do not think him showing up in an awards show like this, making a joke out of himself was a pretty good choice.
3) I am not trying to rate Sean's job as a politician. However, when it comes to what his role was in the Trump-administration, he was powerless, or am I wrong? He literally had to leave his spine at home, and just justify a senile old man's ramblings. That was his job. Spinster without a spine.

You see? Plenty of space between "lock him up" and admitting fault/guild while appreciating this comedic bit.

Talking about taste, THIS is actualy comedy which I found rather tasteless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Qq-RPYb_I
And still, even this does not "disqualify" the show's past good bits. But its bad.

Context does matter but you're not providing any.

The context is Spicer was absolutely under no duress, financial or otherwise, to take the job, and under no pressure to stay in it when it involved the horrible things he continually had to defend. Spicer is in fact a long time Republican operative who took the job as a matter of prestige and influence. He choose to do the job because he knew the sorts of things he'd be doing and who he'd be doing it for. It's not like Trump didn't make his positions and policies known well before his election.

He is not like a waitress at a casino or a driver who very likely is under financial duress and has to accept whatever they can get, and ultimately who has little or no power to change anything about her workplace, and even in quitting would not cause any sort of ripple or institutional change. Attempting to make this comparison is attempting to defend Spicer's complicity in all this.

An example of someone who is actually analogous to Spicer's position is Sally Yates, and even she inherited Trump and didn't sign on with him like Spicer. She didn't shrug and do Trump's dirty work, she refused his unconstitutional executive order and maintained her dignity.

 

[Edsmells12345]

He's on the same level as Fallon. Rake him.

Nah

 

[Monocle]

He's on the same level as Fallon. Rake him.

Eeeeeehhhhhh...

 

[MIMIC]

I initially thought it was funny, but looking back on it....yeah. It is a little gross. Not enough for me to be personally outraged, but enough for me to see why people would be upset.

 

[Lime]

Jason Isaacs is the best

 

[Messofanego]

Jason Isaacs is the best

Hello to Jason Isaacs!

 

[Brazil]

It was Colbert's idea.

Well.

Unsubscribed from his show's YouTube channel. He can grab Fallon and go get fucked.

 

[ahoyhoy]

Jason Isaacs is the best

He's the bad guy from The Patriot!

One of the most despicable anti American characters in all of cinema calling us out for letting this dude interlope our most successful industry. Bless him.

 

[Saya]

 

[Creamium]

Jason Isaacs is the best

Damn, savage. But beautiful.

 

[Brazil]

These fucking assholes, man. Filthy pieces of shit.

What an eyes-opening night.

 

[LilWayneSuckz]

Absolute trash.

 

[pestul]

Jason Isaacs straight ether.. I like it.