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[OmnipotentO]

I used to subscribe to a comics YouTube channel and the guy put classic Strange right under the one above all in terms of power. Number 3 is the living tribunal. After that is the rest of the cosmic entities. Phoenix force, Franklin Richards, mad Jim jaspers after that. The rest.

At one point Strange got hit with the nerf stick. Current Strange still OP but not as crazy as he used to be according to the guy. So I definitely vote Strange as the strongest magic user in fiction if this YouTube guy is correct.

 

[Fou-Lu]

It's fun to see the different scales of magic people have experience with in this thread.

 

[Slayven]

Alan Scott is the OG green lantern. He is not powered by will powers he has the Starheart, the starheart is the sum total of all wild magic that appeared in the early days of the universe

It's powerful enough to control Dr.Fater

 

[JasonUresti]

I used to subscribe to a comics YouTube channel and the guy put classic Strange right under the one above all in terms of power. Number 3 is the living tribunal. After that is the rest of the cosmic entities. Phoenix force, Franklin Richards, mad Jim jaspers after that. The rest.

At one point Strange got hit with the nerf stick. Current Strange still OP but not as crazy as he used to be according to the guy. So I definitely vote Strange as the strongest magic user in fiction if this YouTube guy is correct.

Dormammu could pretty easily toast Classic Strange when bringing his full power to the table. Dormammu tried to fight Eternity (the personification of the universe) and lost.

Classic Strange is ridiculous, but there are still some levels above him, both from magic users and the hyper advanced cosmic entities and the abstract beings.

 

[Conkersbadfurday]

Given the few miserable issues I've read of The Flash, I'd say that fuckface. The Speed Force is basically just plot armor but with a shittier name.

 

[caliph95]

I used to subscribe to a comics YouTube channel and the guy put classic Strange right under the one above all in terms of power. Number 3 is the living tribunal. After that is the rest of the cosmic entities. Phoenix force, Franklin Richards, mad Jim jaspers after that. The rest.

At one point Strange got hit with the nerf stick. Current Strange still OP but not as crazy as he used to be according to the guy. So I definitely vote Strange as the strongest magic user in fiction if this YouTube guy is correct.

Current earth due to a storyline in Doctor Strange had magic almost killed so he's been heavily nerfed

 

[Slayven]

Given the few miserable issues I've read of The Flash, I'd say that fuckface. The Speed Force is basically just plot armor but with a shittier name.

SPeed force ain't nothing to Wally's love for Linda

And it burned the devil

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Merlin

 

[Busaiku]

Dark Schneider seems to be pretty stupid.
Never actually read Bastard!! though, just going off the memes and hearsay.

 

[Finaika]

Zatanna - She can do anything with magic as long as she can say it backwards.

Can she turn Superman into a rabbit forever?

 

[iALX]

Excerpt from one Imgur gallery:

The Presence, otherwise known as the God of the Covenant is the creator of the DC universe in the comic book world, though he's more often spoken of than actually seen.

Powers:

He is Omnipotent, Omniarch, Omnicompetence, Omifarious, Omnificent, Omnilock, Omnipresent, Omniscience, Omniverse Manipulation.

Being the creator of DC Multiverse, there is no limit to The Presence's powers and abilities thus proving him to have no weaknesses.

 

[rackham]

Femto and the God Hand from Berserk. Causality's a bitch.

The Outsider from Dishonored. Haven't played the new one but he's pretty stronk

 

[A-V-B]

SPeed force ain't nothing to Wally's love for Linda

And it burned the devil

Just one of these times when someone uses the Power of Love, I want the antagonist to pretend to scream in agony...

then completely laugh it off.

"Do you think I'm biologically incapable? That love is some kind of bane? I have love. Just not yours."

And then the hero gets wrecked.

 

[mattwhite924]

Since the Genie from Aladdin has already been mentioned, I'll go with this guy.

Discord from MLP is pretty similar to the genie in powers, only with a more chaotic bent. Of course it kind of boils down to whatever happens to be funny at the time.

Actually, now that I think about it, Q deserves a mention too.

 

[creatchee]

Vincianus Polymage, given the world he inhabited.

 

[omnislayer]

Jesus Christ is pretty powerful right? Especially if you count the big time skip at the end when all hell breaks loose.

 

[Lightning_Roller]

Since the Genie from Aladdin has already been mentioned, I'll go with this guy.

Discord from MLP is pretty similar to the genie in powers, only with a more chaotic bent. Of course it kind of boils down to whatever happens to be funny at the time.

Actually, now that I think about it, Q deserves a mention too.

Q and Discord are basically the same being. And I'm not saying that because they are both played by the same actor, John De Lancie.

 

[Imperfected]

In D&D terms, the Sorcerer-Kings from Dark Sun are pretty absurd. They're (up to) Lv30 Wizard/Psionicists that, at the upper end of the scale, have transformed into friggin' dragons. That's just excessive.

In general RPG terms, Exalted sorcerers basically just operate on a completely different scale, where if they aren't completely rewriting reality, they aren't trying.

As for popular fantasy (LotR, ASoIaF, Harry Potter, etc.)... honestly that's a hard call. Authors tend to use powerful wizard characters very sparingly since they're up there with time travel in terms of "deus ex machina that completely destroys the drama". They basically have to be written as virtual non-entities in the stories they appear in.

 

[Valkerionseven]

I mean are some of the ones being mentioned even magic. Reality warping and god level powers sure, but I never thought Phoenix was magic.

 

[QuantumZebra]

I'll be the first to say Raistlin.
Elron is up there too

I was gonna be annoyed if Raistlin wasn't in the first few responses.

Dude went from cowardly and feeble to riding a dragon, killing all 3 gods (good, evil, neutral), and becoming the god of time itself - and it was believable

--

Shout-Out to Dark Phoenix / Jean Grey too

 

[Maledict]

Excerpt from one Imgur gallery:

Up until the new series of Lucifer, where he's killed by one of his own angels with a magic sword.

It has great artwork but is truly, appallingly bad story wise and makes no sense on any level.

 

[KonradLaw]

Timothy Hunter, he's canon-wise the most powerful magical being of DC universe by the time he reaches his full potential, being able to unconsciously create thousands of alternate worlds with thousands of alternate versions of himself.

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Essun, Nessun, and Alabaster from the Broken Earth trilogy by NK Jemisin. The first book starts with Alabaster removing the largest city on the planet by cracking the plate below and creating a new volcanic rift that runs the width of a continent. And he's the weakest of the three mentioned.

I just finished the first book and came in to say Alabaster. The entire concept of Orogenes is really interesting and well thought out.

 

[Maledict]

Aww. I read the whole Belgariad/Mallorean cycle every few years or so.

Still love 'em. <3 I can't help it, Silk is my jam.

To be fair, the Belgariad is *easily* the best series of books he wrote. It avoids a lot of the cliches and tropes he descended into in later books (even the Mallorean), and has a lot more unique and distinct characters than all his other work (where everyone basically morphs into Silk).

 

[Dali]

Rand al'Thor from the Wheel of Time, and I don't think it's particularly close. They obviously operate on totally different rulesets but the people mentioned from the Harry Potter universe just aren't on the same level. Rand is essentially a god, or at least has god-like powers, by the end of the series. Shit, by like halfway through he essentially has the power to destroy the world if he wished. His supporting cast is also incredibly powerful although not all of them are channelers (magic users). The three male leads all have intense reality-warping effects although they cannot directly control them.

Probably some Marvel comics bullshit too but that stuff tends to barely make sense so it's not worth getting into.

Came to say rand and I'm not quite finished yet and barely recall the full details of his powers because it was such a long time ago I read the books. That's just how powerful he is. I vaguely remember the specifics and I'm still like "yeah that guy is strong."

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Would an Avatar like Aang or Korra count?

Get them on a bloodbending training regime and they could probably take anything out besides actual Gods. Outside of psychic powers, most incantations would be shut down easily. Well maybe not Korra because she's only good at jobbing but adult Aang was legit.

 

[FelixTheSexranger]

Most powerful magic user?

Some call him... Tim.

 

[besada]

I just finished the first book and came in to say Alabaster. The entire concept of Orogenes is really interesting and well thought out.

Lucky you. I finished the third about a week ago and I'm still jonesing for it. Such a good series. As good as the first was, it just gets better and crazier. And yeah, the orogenes with their sessipinae that help them sense and manipulate the earth is both interesting and original. And the implications of stuff briefly mentioned in the first book turn out to be huge. It's a really well thought out and executed series, full of interesting characters and mindfuck ideas.

 

[orava]

The Flash.

 

[Screaming Meat]

Excerpt from one Imgur gallery:

Didn't Constantine get one over him?

Timothy Hunter, he's canon-wise the most powerful magical being of DC universe by the time he reaches his full potential, being able to unconsciously create thousands of alternate worlds with thousands of alternate versions of himself.

He gets jobbed by The Beast in Hellblazer. This guy:

Just sayin'.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Magnus the Red from Warhammer 40k.

Magnus ain't even as powerful as the Emperor of Mankind. He's probably the strongest in the 40k fiction... well... him and the god's of chaos (but they'll gods so that's kinda cheating)

 

[V_Arnold]

I am glad Rand Al Thor was mentioned. Honorable mentions to Egwene, Nynaeve and

Spoiler

Alivia

, and half of the forsakens at that point.

They really earned this shit, they worked hard for it, and the only players beyond their level are those that just "got" stuff, like "Oh, I am franklin now, and I can wish universes into existence with no cost whatsoever". Bullshit.

So Wheel of Time. GGWP, end of the story.

 

[erragal]

Beak. (From Malazan)

It's actually almost impossible to compare between different world setup a because the rules in those universes have different constraints and power is a contrast thing. Also ' magic user' implies ' not a god like creature' as in a mortal that is a magic practitioner.

You need to have some more detailed guidelines for things like this. One thing is for sure: It's not a fucking Marvel character. There's a million fantasy stories about magic and some people think a superhero is the most powerful magic practitioner ever penned? Need to read more.

I'm a mark for Beak and other ' wild talents ' myself

 

[PayOffWizard]

Magic man seems pretty OP, not sure if there is anything he cant do.

 

[Stallion Dan]

Grotbags

 

[Heartfyre]

Crowley and Mazus from the Suikoden series are worth noting. A magic battle between the two of them turned a massive chunk of the Northern Continent into a near-impassable desert known as The Badlands.

 

[Temp_User]

Xellos from Slayers.

 

[Maddness]

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Yes! This was one of my favorite parts of the WWH spin offs. I love the panel after this when it cuts back to the fight. Pure awesome. Ghost Rider is my OG favorite comic hero.

 

[caliph95]

Up until the new series of Lucifer, where he's killed by one of his own angels with a magic sword.

It has great artwork but is truly, appallingly bad story wise and makes no sense on any level.

Yeah didn't care for the new series

 

[Serrato]

Not sure it counts but...

Dr Fate + Prof X + Dr Strange.

It's as broken as it sounds.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

Consodering im not done with the series yet - i'll say someone in The Wheel of Time series

 

[DrSlek]

Up until the new series of Lucifer, where he's killed by one of his own angels with a magic sword.

It has great artwork but is truly, appallingly bad story wise and makes no sense on any level.

What the honest fuck??

 

[Tekomandor]

This forum's vs skills are weak. Avatar or the Wheel of Time? Who let them into a most powerful of all fiction match.

Anyway, I'm gonna suggest Punpun, what with his infinite stats, ability to do anything via snake bulshit, and every broken theoretical trick from the craziest edition of D&D.

 

[FlyingTeacup]

Does this guy count? He could erase universe.

Zen-oh

 

[SliceSabre]

Xellos from Slayers.

Its funny you mention him when Lord of Nightmares laughs at his powers and they're in the same show. Course this is probably cheating since Lord of Nightmares is effectively the god of their universe.

 

[Elwainen]

Jonathan strange from Jonathan strange and Mr Norrel. he moved an entire city half way across the world. and with no detrimental effect on himself either

Btw very good book, i highly reccomend

 

[Aaronrules380]

Does this guy count? He could erase universe.

Zen-oh

god, not a magic user

 

[Sephzilla]

How about Sauron?

 

[Meliora]

Pug/Milamber gets my vote. Poor guy.

 

[KernelPanic]

Pug Con'doin from the Krondor series.

Why not just say Macros the Black?