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Destiny 2 |OT2| Leviathan Wakes (Spoiler Tag ALL Raid Discussion)

Kaversmed

Member
yes..there is....farming tokens and whatnot..see grave robbers post..for now 350 LL is max for now....I wonder when is Bungie gonna open the cap for higher LL...hmmm

Not sure I follow? My point is, why go through the grind of getting a higher PL when the game feels the same at PL 200 as it do when you’re PL 300?

In the end, we’re just grinding this game to get a higher numbered character... makes no sense. Iron Banner may be the only thing that will benefit from having a higher PL.
 

Owensboro

Member
Anyone taking / want to take a shot at Callus today? It's the only thing in the raid I haven't completed. Tried for two hours on Wed and couldn't get him past 1/2 health (we kept having stupid deaths, and it was laaaaaaate). Assuming the little one let's me play I could try in the early afternoon or after 8pm EST. I'd offer to run the thing but my schedule is so fluid I can't do that anymore :(. I don't expect to have hours and hours to throw at him.
 

catspit

Member
Not sure I follow? My point is, why go through the grind of getting a higher PL when the game feels the same at PL 200 as it do when you’re PL 300?

In the end, we’re just grinding this game to get a higher numbered character... makes no sense. Iron Banner may be the only thing that will benefit from having a higher PL.

True.. I can agree with this
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I've been doing this too...thats how I've jumped from 288 to 295 in a day...now everyone knows
<_<
>_>

That's the GAF spirit, "Fuck You, Got mines"
Beneficial to you, keep it to yourself, ah yes!

I'm gonna help and let as many Guardians know, so they can join in on the fun
Same with the anomaly shenanigans to hit maximum time to learning the Armory Chest bug/glitch in the Underbelly and just grabbing it from the Kush Room ceiling (Thanks Jigga!)
 
Thanks for the heads up GraveRobberX, been stuck on 270 for a while now!

Supposedly they're a little buggy. You have to wait a bit or something in between opening them. But I mean what you're buying is basically just a chance at a legendary/exotic engram, not like you do much. Pay 4.5k glimmer, and the exact spot is on your map. The whole treasure map thing was kind of a letdown tbh, could've been a legit treasure hunt or something.

Interesting, next time I run them I'll do one a day and see if that helps.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Did not work on Sloane. My pl is 291

Didn't work for me either.


Yeah, every 30 minutes it will cycle.

I don't think your understanding it properly

It helps more if you reach cap, but it helps others if you have Tokens to burn and time, every 30 minutes it will cycle to a new Engram PL #

So if your PL 291, your differential will be 281 to 286
So Legendary Engrams will cycle differently for everyone

Every 30 minutes after giving 20 Tokens, that Engram will switch to a different PL
So within 2.5 hours, it should hit 286 for you.
Could be earlier or could be the full limit or more

Then you buy as many Packages in that 30 minute window.

It changes every :00 and :30.

So at least you can push guns up to 286 +5 mod or bring stuff you like up, same with exotics.

The great reason to do it at 305, is you will hit 300 Engram just like in my picture
Then I bought a fuckton of packages, roughly 15-20
Then infused 300 Weapons and Armor into things.

Sent 300 Weapon infusion material to other 2 characters and their weapons
Now all 3 Guardians have roughly 20 Legendary weapons @305. Almost every Exotic (maybe 2-3 weapons left to upgrade to 305)

Armor on the other 2 is the only problem that they can't share class armor wise like in Destiny RoI


Also Daily Reset; Shaxx still 299, Gunsmith 297.
Womp womp
 

Aegus

Member
Just so I understand this 30 minute vendor trick.

I give a vendor 20 tokens (or enough to get an engram). I wait 1hr before collecting and I'll be given the highest level engram for my current light level?

I'm currently at 282 light and the engram while I'm waiting is (I gave it at 10:05) is still 273. It hasn't changed at all and it is now 10:39
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Just so I understand this 30 minute vendor trick.

I give a vendor 20 tokens (or enough to get an engram). I weight 1hr before collecting and I'll be given the highest level engram for my current light level?

I'm currently at 282 light and the engram while I'm waiting is (I gave it at 10:05) is still 273. It hasn't changed at all and it is now 10:39

Not wait only 1 hour.
It cycles from lowest PL you can get -10 from current to the max possible -5 PL from current

So if your 282, your Engram range is 273 - 277
It will cycle every 30 minutes
Average wise 5 cycles equals 2.5 hours
Sometimes it may stay the same # (I haven't run into it problem at all, but I'm guessing it possible)

So if you see it at 273, wait till :00 and see what you get, might be 273 again (I fucking hope not!) or it can be anywhere between 274-277 for you
 

Verano

Reads Ace as Lace. May God have mercy on their soul
Not sure I follow? My point is, why go through the grind of getting a higher PL when the game feels the same at PL 200 as it do when you’re PL 300?

um what? Honestly grinding D2 from 200 to my current LL.from my personal experience...I dont die nor get get beat up as much when I was at 200 opposed 295LL. I can literally feel the progression of my character as my LL goes up. I feel a bit more powerful than before. The game never felt the same..it always fluctuates and caters to your LL.
 

Koh

Member
My luminous engrams somehow decreased 80 power level. I just hit 298 and my luminous from cayde is at 210.

Has anyone experienced this? I have 2 characters, but they are not the same class.
 
Not wait only 1 hour.
It cycles from lowest PL you can get -10 from current to the max possible -5 PL from current

So if your 282, your Engram range is 273 - 277
It will cycle every 30 minutes
Average wise 5 cycles equals 2.5 hours
Sometimes it may stay the same # (I haven't run into it problem at all, but I'm guessing it possible)

So if you see it at 273, wait till :00 and see what you get, might be 273 again (I fucking hope not!) or it can be anywhere between 274-277 for you

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.. going to try this out right now.

Again so I understand correctly.. Trade tokens in up to the point where you unlock a legendary engram, but dont claim it yet. Wait every 30 min to see when the Power Level of the Engram changes? Once the number changes to the desired power lvl, buy as many legendary engrams you can get within that 30min slot?
 
Not wait only 1 hour.
It cycles from lowest PL you can get -10 from current to the max possible -5 PL from current

So if your 282, your Engram range is 273 - 277
It will cycle every 30 minutes
Average wise 5 cycles equals 2.5 hours
Sometimes it may stay the same # (I haven't run into it problem at all, but I'm guessing it possible)

So if you see it at 273, wait till :00 and see what you get, might be 273 again (I fucking hope not!) or it can be anywhere between 274-277 for you

My shaxx is sitting at 299 atm
 
I'm trying this engram thing out.

Indeed, it's changing every half hour.

Started at 299, then it was 296, now it's 295. Just going to keep checking until it's 300.
 

TsuWave

Member
Not sure I follow? My point is, why go through the grind of getting a higher PL when the game feels the same at PL 200 as it do when you’re PL 300?

In the end, we’re just grinding this game to get a higher numbered character... makes no sense. Iron Banner may be the only thing that will benefit from having a higher PL.

agree, and this is one thing i always disliked about destiny. you never really feel powerful in relation to your supposed light/power level. i'm not saying i want to be one shotting bosses but at least let me feel some "growth" against fodder enemies.

Which is exactly how they want you to play?

I don't think Destiny was every meant or designed to be a daily grinder. It's a come on back for the DLC design. Which imo is great. I don't understand why some folks say "after 120 hours (or more, or a month worth of play) they are done but will come back for the dlc. That's exactly what they want? And I'm happy to do it. I can come on back when I want but play something else inbetween. It's perfect

not sold on this. the less time you spend playing, the less likely you are to spend money on MT/Eververse and some of the design decisions show they want you to spend money on MT/Eververse
 

GhaleonEB

Member
After I did the Titan flashpoint, the only milestones that will advance me this week (in PvE) are the Nightfall and the raid. Both of which I'm trying to advance toward, since I'm too low to run them. Chicken, meet egg. :\
 

Sky Walker

Member
After I did the Titan flashpoint, the only milestones that will advance me this week (in PvE) are the Nightfall and the raid. Both of which I'm trying to advance toward, since I'm too low to run them. Chicken, meet egg. :
If you are 250-ish in terms of power level, 2 good players can carry you for a NF run :p
 

Cob32

Member
Do you have talk to do nightfalls/raids? I'd like to do them but I've no friends online and don't know if I'd be into taking to random people all day.

Nightfall is doable. Use lfg and put no mic in the description. You should get invites.

Raid needs a mic pretty much. Especially if it's your first time.
 

Lemnisc8

Member
Three characters now at over 280 and still not seen a single uriels gift.

Been farming Nessus as well and still nothing. It's the only damn weapon I seem to get outplayed with in PVP.

RNG feels bad :(
 
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.. going to try this out right now.

Again so I understand correctly.. Trade tokens in up to the point where you unlock a legendary engram, but dont claim it yet. Wait every 30 min to see when the Power Level of the Engram changes? Once the number changes to the desired power lvl, buy as many legendary engrams you can get within that 30min slot?

Yes, i think that's what he means.
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
After I did the Titan flashpoint, the only milestones that will advance me this week (in PvE) are the Nightfall and the raid. Both of which I'm trying to advance toward, since I'm too low to run them. Chicken, meet egg. :\
It shouldn't take you a lot of time to hit 270. You can use the Gunsmith legendary engrams to get to 260 easily and from there the exotic quests which I hope you have saved. Even then 260 is enough for NF and raid.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.. going to try this out right now.

Again so I understand correctly.. Trade tokens in up to the point where you unlock a legendary engram, but dont claim it yet. Wait every 30 min to see when the Power Level of the Engram changes? Once the number changes to the desired power lvl, buy as many legendary engrams you can get within that 30min slot?

Correcto Friendo

Whatever your Max PL is, equip your best 3 Weapons and Armor slots.
Then subtract -10, that will be the lowest, -5 from your current PL will be the highest the Engram can be

So if you hit 305, 300 Engram should cycle as a vendor package for 30 minutes, I'm waiting on Nessus right now

So far it's been 296, 299, 297, 298 at the moment
So 2 hours so far, now hoping 300 is next slit up in cycle, if not, that means the PL can fluctuate back to another # already seen
(I'm hoping here, if not cycle maybe longer, than that's more iffy to fully determine)


My shaxx is sitting at 299 atm

Any Tower Vendors are capped for me, they dont shift Engram wise. Shaxx and Vuvuzala are 299, Gunsmith 297.
I edited my posts, take a look

Only Destination NPCs have this going on
 

GhaleonEB

Member
If you are 250-ish in terms of power level, 2 good players can carry you for a NF run :p
My friends have warned me against it (I'm 266-ish), and I don't like being carried. Though I might try it later this weekend anyways for something to do.

It shouldn't take you a lot of time to hit 270. You can use the Gunsmith legendary engrams to get to 260 easily and from there the exotic quests which I hope you have saved. Even then 260 is enough for NF and raid.

I've completed all the exotic quests I had. I leveled up just doing the stuff I wanted to do.

I'm getting really conflicting feedback about the raid light level. When I hit 260 I thought I was raid worthy and literally everyone I'd talked to since laughed at the notion.
 
Correcto Friendo

Whatever your Max PL is, equip your best 3 Weapons and Armor slots.
Then subtract -10, that will be the lowest, -5 from your current PL will be the highest the Engram can be

So if you hit 305, 300 Engram should cycle as a vendor package for 30 minutes, I'm waiting on Nessus right now

So far it's been 296, 299, 297, 298 at the moment
So 2 hours so far, now hoping 300 is next slit up in cycle, if not, that means the PL can fluctuate back to another # already seen
(I'm hoping here, if not cycle maybe longer, than that's more iffy to fully determine)

Ah doesn't seem to help lower level players. I'm at 270 and Sloane et al are all still at 265 light reward.
 

catspit

Member
a person could run at least 2 public events in the time it takes to get to a raid chest. why do they want to waste our time :D. First time is cool to track them down, but then maybe there should be a better way after that
 

alt27

Member
Nightfall is doable. Use lfg and put no mic in the description. You should get invites.

Raid needs a mic pretty much. Especially if it's your first time.

Raids need a mic , full stop .

But yeah , nightfalls are easy without a mic . Reddit fireteams is good for no mic nightfalls
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
I'm getting really conflicting feedback about the raid light level. When I hit 260 I thought I was raid worthy and literally everyone I'd talked to since laughed at the notion.
It shouldn't be a big problem with one or two people below 270. You will also get the opportunity to level up to 275ish or 10 light levels thanks to the drops before you get to the final section.
 

alt27

Member
It shouldn't be a big problem with one or two people below 270. You will also get the opportunity to level up to 275ish or 10 light levels thanks to the drops before you get to the final section.

The drops are terrible. You may have levelled up 10 ( I find that hard to believe honestly ) but for the average drops , no way your levelling that fast
 
The engrams from the vendor changed to 300 for me and I bought em all up. This is pretty whack but hey, I'll exploit the hell out of it while I can.

Noticing some people saying it isn't working on places other than EDZ, I haven't tried myself yet. I did this test on the EDZ.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Well Failsafe gave me 299 again!

Hmmm... So I've seen those 4, 296, 297, 298, 299 but no 300 yet...
Wearing PL 305, interesting.
 

Onlythisfar41

Neo Member
My friends have warned me against it (I'm 266-ish), and I don't like being carried. Though I might try it later this weekend anyways for something to do.



I've completed all the exotic quests I had. I leveled up just doing the stuff I wanted to do.

I'm getting really conflicting feedback about the raid light level. When I hit 260 I thought I was raid worthy and literally everyone I'd talked to since laughed at the notion.

So this is coming from a day one Destiny 1 player a a Destiny 2 player with all three classes over 300 currently. While your power level is technically high enough to enter the raid, you’re going to have a hard time against enemies. Each raid encounter goes up in light level, ending at 280 with the final boss. My group took one of our friends through who was 262 and he had trouble not dying frequently, as well as having some DPS issues during damage phases at a few encounters.

It is certainly doable if you have a good a high light team around you and if you’re a really competent player. Your issue is going to be finding a group willing to take you on LFG if you don’t have a group of your friends that you’re going to go in with.
 
Ah doesn't seem to help lower level players. I'm at 270 and Sloane et al are all still at 265 light reward.

This might be the case for me too

I'm at 293 and my engrams have been stuck at 283 for over an hour now.
I've only tried in the EDZ, so I'm wondering if maybe it works with another vendor.


Is there other preconditions for this to work? Like not teleporting away from Devrim or having to switch planets and then come back.
 
My friends have warned me against it (I'm 266-ish), and I don't like being carried. Though I might try it later this weekend anyways for something to do.



I've completed all the exotic quests I had. I leveled up just doing the stuff I wanted to do.

I'm getting really conflicting feedback about the raid light level. When I hit 260 I thought I was raid worthy and literally everyone I'd talked to since laughed at the notion.

The nightfall at 266 is totally doable. Just play a bit more conservatively and ideally get a team that has a good idea about where all the anomalies are to get max time.
 

rafaelr

Member
This might be the case for me too

I'm at 293 and my engrams have been stuck at 283 for over an hour now.
I've only tried in the EDZ, so I'm wondering if maybe it works with another vendor.


Is there other preconditions for this to work? Like not teleporting away from Devrim or having to switch planets and then come back.

yeah, have to report the same for me. 294PL, engram at devrim stayed at 285 for the past 1.5 hrs (checking every 30 mins).
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
yeah, have to report the same for me. 294PL, engram at devrim stayed at 285 for the past 1.5 hrs (checking every 30 mins).

No idea why you guys aren't getting the cycle

I think EDZ is the only that goes 300?

Cause so far Nessus has been 299 and some here stayed Titan was 299 for them

Figuring this out, is gonna be awhile lol


Yeah Failsafe has stayed on 299 for way too long.
Past hour or so. So I'm guessing EDZ is best bet.

do you have to stay on the planet while waiting or just check back every 30 min rotation?

I've stayed on Planet and left to Tower and went back to Planet, it changed for me
 

Alucrid

Banned
No idea why you guys aren't getting the cycle

I think EDZ is the only that goes 300?

Cause so far Nessus has been 299 and some here stayed Titan was 299 for them

Figuring this out, is gonna be awhile lol



I've stayed on Planet and left to Tower and went back to Planet, it changed for me

thanks, i'll give it a shot
 
No idea why you guys aren't getting the cycle

I think EDZ is the only that goes 300?

Cause so far Nessus has been 299 and some here stayed Titan was 299 for them

Figuring this out, is gonna be awhile lol


Yeah Failsafe has stayed on 299 for way too long.
Past hour or so. So I'm guessing EDZ is best bet.



I've stayed on Planet and left to Tower and went back to Planet, it changed for me

Still no luck for me on Titan & EDZ. My power is 270, reward engram is still 265 at both, no variation all night.
 
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