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[curi0usBystander]

It's not lazy at all, they worked hard to make it worse.

lol

Sometimes i wonder if they know they could make the game scalable instead of this hybrid-gamble ports they make.

 

[Rival]

I knew I was hanging onto my old pc from 2009 for a reason!

 

[FF Seraphim]

Wait... the game is 1080p on the PS4 but 720p on PC? How do you fuck up like that and expect people to accept it? They already have the assets and image files, how can they not put it in for the PC version?

 

[mnannola]

So their reasoning for putting lower quality assets on PC is...?

 

[Rizific]

I don't even know who kt is or what game they are taking about, but fuck anyone trying to pull this bullshit.

 

[striferser]

The PS4 version has higher resolution assets than the PC version though.

Yeah, this is confusing part. Like, i can understand if this mobile gaming and using the low res asset to ensure majority of mobile game can handle the game... or maybe that is exactly what they're thinking

 

[Nostremitus]

KT and their pc ports are so shit and miss (with most being a miss) that I can’t help but wonder what they’re thinking over there.

FTFY

 

[Paracelsus]

So their reasoning for putting lower quality assets on PC is...?

That they can't literally make it any better?

 

[Kvik]

Nah, Square's pretty bad. 2 million copies of Nier Automata sold. Just one PC patch, to enable DLC compatibility.

It is very likely they will botch FF XII PC as well.

Ontopic, I was looking forward to get Blue Reflection, now it'll sit in my wishlist for years on end.

 

[Mivey]

Wait... the game is 1080p on the PS4 but 720p on PC? How do you fuck up like that and expect people to accept it? They already have the assets and image files, how can they not put it in for the PC version?

I have a recent quote from KT CEO on just this;

We choose to release the most messed up PC ports in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win

 

[FHIZ]

So their reasoning for putting lower quality assets on PC is...?

The guy in charge of the PC port is using a 720p monitor?

 

[kewlmyc]

It sure does feel like the rule is: avoid all Japanese PC ports of games unless you find out Durante is working on it.

Nah. Nowadays, only KT and occasionally SE are fucking up with PC ports. All the Namco Bandai ports have been good lately, although them using Denevo is still an issue. I've heard nothing but good things about the Spike Chunsoft Danganronpa ports. The XSEED ports are also good.

 

[Battlechili]

Nah, Square's pretty bad. 2 million copies of Nier Automata sold. Just one PC patch, to enable DLC compatibility.

It is very likely they will botch FF XII PC as well.

FFXII: The Zodiac Age was done by the same company that did the X/X-2 HD Remaster. X/X-2's PC port was pretty great, so I imagine as long as the same people are also doing the port, XII should turn out fine.

 

[Thelonelykoopa]

Wait... So the game requires 30 gigs but the assets are for 720p ....something doesn't seem right here. Wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 Assets are in the download and they just are not using them.

 

[Ouija Luigi]

We hope you will accept this.

 

[Braag]

This is why I don't own a single KT game despite having a slight interest in some of their games.

 

[RedSwirl]

Nah, Square's pretty bad. 2 million copies of Nier Automata sold. Just one PC patch, to enable DLC compatibility.

It is very likely they will botch FF XII PC as well.

Ontopic, I was looking forward to get Blue Reflection, now it'll sit in my wishlist for years on end.

I swear to God if they fuck up FFXII...

 

[jaypah]

Well at least I found my new phrase for when I fuck up in life.

 

[Leafhopper]

Nah, Square's pretty bad. 2 million copies of Nier Automata sold. Just one PC patch, to enable DLC compatibility.

It is very likely they will botch FF XII PC as well.

Ontopic, I was looking forward to get Blue Reflection, now it'll sit in my wishlist for years on end.

I have heard the complaints of Nier:A and really for me the only issues I had were when I moved fast through the open world and some cutscenes being a little framey.

Other than that in fights and such it was smooth for me. That said that port isn't the best at all no.

Wait... So the game requires 30 gigs but the assets are for 720p ....something doesn't seem right here. Wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 Assets are in the download and they just are not using them.

At this point who knows that's possible too.

 

[thehillissilent]

US: We hope you accept no sales!!!!

 

[mnannola]

The guy in charge of the PC port is using a 720p monitor?

"Tried it out boss, looks the same to me. Going back to 720p will save some space, seems like a no brainer!"

 

[Dinjoralo]

lol

Sometimes i wonder if they know the could make the game scalable instead of this hybrid-gamble ports they make.

This is probably part of what's going on. Someone mentioned KT games selling very well in China. I'm going to guess this is done for people in the region with very low-spec computers, and also because it's KT and they don't know what graphics options are for.

 

[Yappadappadu]

What I hate the most of those kinds of mess ups, that it's impossible to get any (real) statement from any of the persons in the know.
Like, I would love it if the writing press could get on it, but some (many?) of the japanese gaming developers seem to live in their own bubble.
OTOH, they MUST know, they just choose to ignore the (western) PC fans.

 

[Whitephantomzx]

Man there really trying to see how lazy of port they can get away . I hope this bombs

 

[Nostremitus]

This is probably part of what's going on. Someone mentioned KT games selling very well in China. I'm going to guess this is done for people in the region with very low-spec computers, and also because it's KT and they don't know what graphics options are for.

Or to keep download sizes small for bandwidth starved, data capped regions.

Still, though, they should offer a high res asset pack as an optional download.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Kind've glad I just don't give a fuck about KT games anymore

Until DOA6 happens...and they fuck up the PC version there again.

 

[kraspkibble]

720p on PC. Lmfao are they mad?

 

[Neuromancer]

Realistically, how many PC gamers have monitors that support anything over 720p anyway?

 

[Kintaro]

I think I am just going to skip all Koei Tecmo games now. Just to make it easy on myself. One can only take so much disappointment.

 

[pretty done]

Anyone who buys KT PC ports deserves this kind of garbage tbh.

How are they not embarrassed of their work? Show some fucking pride.

 

[Dinjoralo]

To anyone defending Square Enix, I'll remind you they thought it was okay to release FFXIII with no graphics options and utterly fucked performance problems. And never fix it. And also those awful mobile ports of other FF games. They do not have a good track record.

Or to keep download sizes small for bandwidth starved, data capped regions.

Still, though, they should offer a high res asset pack as an optional download.

I honestly don't think ANY Japanese developer understands this concept. I'd like to be proven wrong, of course.

 

[Hentailover]

Is there any explanation for this? Like, any logical reason for this imaginable? Why would they just randomly use one set of assets over another ?

 

[Ibuki]

Realistically, how many PC gamers have monitors that support anything over 720p anyway?

 

[curi0usBystander]

This is probably part of what's going on. Someone mentioned KT games selling very well in China. I'm going to guess this is done for people in the region with very low-spec computers, and also because it's KT and they don't know what graphics options are for.

I kind of get that but not adding a graphic option to use the ps4 assets that they already have ...

 

[Head.spawn]

You should update the Title with "720p Assets".

 

[SmartWaffles]

This is probably part of what's going on. Someone mentioned KT games selling very well in China. I'm going to guess this is done for people in the region with very low-spec computers, and also because it's KT and they don't know what graphics options are for.

Both of these points are horribly wrong.

 

[FDC1]

Could it be because they want to be able to release the game on DVD on some markets where physical format is still important so they chose smaller 2D assets? How big is the PS4 version?

 

[Ibuki]

You should update the Title with "720p Assets".

Why?

Where does it say the game would even still output higher than that?

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

That was actually pretty funny.

 

[Head.spawn]

Why?

Where does it say the game would even still output higher than that?

In the OP.

Third sentence of the quote.

 

[Battlechili]

Realistically, how many PC gamers have monitors that support anything over 720p anyway?

I have a 1080p monitor

 

[texhnolyze]

This is why I don't own a single KT game despite having a slight interest in some of their games.

Me too. I keep putting their upcoming games to my whistlist, but after port impressions pouring in I just couldn't bring myself to buy any of them.

 

[Ibuki]

In the OP.

Third sentence of the quote.

It says 'the image will show as stretched'.

Nothing there implies it would output higher than 720p, please elaborate.

 

[Kvik]

FFXII: The Zodiac Age was done by the same company that did the X/X-2 HD Remaster. X/X-2's PC port was pretty great, so I imagine as long as the same people are also doing the port, XII should turn out fine.

I dunno, I don't feel it's very reassuring considering FFX was locked at 30 fps at launch. I haven't boot up the game in like, forever, so I don't know if the 60fps mod patch someone was working on is working or not.

 

[Head.spawn]

It says 'the image will show as stretched'.

Nothing there implies it would output higher than 720p, please elaborate.

" if you play in the environment where the resolution is larger than 1280*720"

I'm not sure why you left that part of the sentence out.

 

[Ibuki]

" if you play in the environment where the resolution is larger than 1280*720"

I'm not sure why you left that part of the sentence out.

It's hard to tell because the translation is terrible, but surely they mean if you play on a display larger than 720p.

Why would they say the image would be stretched otherwise?

 

[xealo]

Realistically, how many PC gamers have monitors that support anything over 720p anyway?

Obvious sarcasm and bait aside, 55% of steam users has at least 1920x1080.

 

[Thoraxes]

Well, at least they saved me money this week. I'll pick it up when it either gets fixed or the PS4 version is sub $30.

I was gonna pick up a Steam card after work tonight, too.

 

[Yohane]

Horrible.

This is 2017 Koei, wake up.

 

[ezodagrom]

It says 'the image will show as stretched'.

Nothing there implies it would output higher than 720p, please elaborate.

It's the same thing as Atelier Sophie and Firis, they both have resolutions options (though there's not many of them, there's at least 1080p and 4K), but the 2D assets are lower resolution than their respective PS4 versions.