Mr. PlayStation
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Someone who works at Sucker Punch who's here on GAF or knows people at Sucker Punch, please tell me they aren't closing their studio. Can't take in the news of another talented passionate studio go down like this.
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Sony Playstation: First Party Studios & their Current Projects
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DriftingSpirit
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Edit - lol
There isn't really anything to worry about under those circumstances. What happens will happen and things will continue going forward.
Yep, basically, shit happens. Can this turn out bad? Yes. Can it turn out good despite the issues? Yes.
There isn't really anything to worry about under those circumstances. What happens will happen and things will continue going forward.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
If y'all wanna panic about something panic about the fact it's been 2 almost 3 years since that ape escape team photo and not a new ape escape title in sight not even 3 for os2 classic
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Oh it was pretty dark times at SSM during 2014 layoff. Someone I know said it was just scary/dark not sure of where they are headed towards.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
What, no, of course they aren't going to get closed, wtf.
There will be a dancing thing for phones from forwardworks in jp.
Sorry.
Edit: nvm I think that's the Parappa game. I think I've seen something Ape Escape on phones though?
I wouldn't be too concerned. When coming up with a new IP, I'm sure all studios go through rough patches over the dev lifecycle... and considering the fact that it's rumoured to be a new open world IP, the silence isn't that surprising.
With that being said, as much as I love SP games I don't see the rush. Sony has so many releases in the pipeline over the next two years, this could potentially be in the oven until 2020.
I am a bit concern because their new ip is rumor to be a open world western game. Sony may see it redundant with red dead 2 coming out and axe the studio like they how they canned Stig project at Santa Monica.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You almost gave me a heart attack
If it is, I feel they'll still be fine. Releasing a Sphagetti Western (a genre that is not oversaturated at all), 1-2 years after RDR2 should not be a cause for concern.
An RDR2 clone would sell by the boatload.
It's not rumored to be a western.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Pretty crazy how that rumor stuck around because of that concept art
brickarts295
Member
If that were to happen, they could always go back to inFamous. With the way they left things in SS, next game could be huge.
Honestly, Sony is probably holding back another Horizon-like bombshell reveal. Once GOW, Detroit and maybe Spider-Man are out before E3. We are most likely going to get the next lineup of upcoming 1st party games.
Reminds me of the "Sucker Punch is developing Spider-Man" rumours when it was only 100% speculation
There are still Verendus rumors floating around as if they're fact. Stuff dies hard.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
That Sony Japan rpg is coming anyday now as well as suikoden Vi
Man, looking back I'm embarrassed for having bought into a lot of that stuff. Dude was a master bullshitter.
I guess since it was still early in the generation with so many games and devs unaccounted for, a lot of us on here just really WANTED to believe in all the stuff he said. But in hindsight, we all should have known better. Even if he did have legit connections nobody could have known the shear amount from across the entire industrycthat he claimed to.
mikezilla2
Member
what Was the sony japan game shown off at TGS ?
unknownstranger
Member
This was basically my takeaway from their E3 press conference this year. They showed all their cards last year and didn't have anything else very far in development to show. Look at all of their big reveals the last few years. Horizon: Zero Dawn had a demo. God of War had a demo. Days Gone had a demo (and trailer). The Last Guardian had a demo. The only exception has been Naughty Dog (I'm not including FFVII Remake and Shenmue 3 in that as they're not Sony properties).
Significance of conferences going forward:
1. PSX - Should become the de facto conference. Speak to those that got your there and will continually back you up. Make it something special for the community with panels, games, and interaction between gamers and game creators.
2. E3 - The conference for the masses and for new comers. Satisfy the sites and blogs with a mainstream focus with some heavy hitters but save the announcements close to the hearts of PS gamers for PSX.
1. PSX - Should become the de facto conference. Speak to those that got your there and will continually back you up. Make it something special for the community with panels, games, and interaction between gamers and game creators.
2. E3 - The conference for the masses and for new comers. Satisfy the sites and blogs with a mainstream focus with some heavy hitters but save the announcements close to the hearts of PS gamers for PSX.
It's not western style.
LiquidSolid
Member
Yeah, the production values required from AAA games has skyrocketed over the last 7-8 years that the days of studios pumping out a full sequel in a year or two are long gone. Not to mention the heavy emphasis on post release support these days, from patches to DLC and even standalone expansions like Infamous FL and Uncharted TLL.
I'd be surprised if Konami weren't the problem with that.
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you are overracting here
there is nothing true on that rumor, and people should stop spreading it
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I don't know why YOU bought it? But I bought it because he predicted an exclusive SFV and a next-gen FF7. I don't care whether people think he's a fraud but it makes my blood boil when folks pretend like those were both "obvious". We spent years saying S-E would NEVER do FF7 as a remake, then after it happens suddenly it's "so obvious" ? Fuck no.
I wanna make a Suikoden joke to tie back into the guy BSing, but it hurts too much. Plus someone confirmed there WAS a Suikoden in the works, it just got canceled.
Edit: There WAS no rumor on Sucker Punch making a Western game lol. Just concept art. Only thing we heard was that it was called Sentinel but you shouldn't trust that either.
Triggerhappytel
Member
A new From exclusive - if it's happening - will get the hardcore riled up like few others. Probably be an E3 megaton. PSX mostly seems to be smaller crowd-pleasing stuff or more info on games that have already been revealed.
Just Panic
For a big ambitious new AAA IP 5+ years is going to be the standard with most games from now on. Heck, even The Order 1886 was bordering on 5 years, if memory serves, and I doubt SP's game will be a highly filmic 5 hour campaign.
Dreams is going to be so good. I have a lot of faith that they're creating amazing tools but the tricky part is making it easy to use and palatable for the general populace.
I'll be there day zero for a CTR remake. Still my favourite karting game ever (and I played MK8 recently which is excellent but CTR is still king), and I just hope they keep the handling intact.
Mm are 3 for 3 so far. They deserve the benefit of the doubt, and given how long they're being allowed to work on this (LBP2 was early 2011) Sony obviously has faith in them.
That's a pretty big jump considering they released 2 games in 2014, little over 3 years ago. Assuming they went straight into working on something new they could conceivably be only 18-24 months into a new project by now (ignoring all of that Glassdoors stuff on the last page).
Yeah, I need to play Little Nightmares but it's going to have to wait for a sale & for me to tackle some of my backlog.
If GG didn't release KZSF, you would be saying the same thing about them?
Yes, KZSF was a rushed ps4 launchtitle.
Just give them time, a new IP is always very difficult to develop and after the big success of TLOU, Horizon and Until Dawn, Sucker Punch's wants to deliver a very good and an unforgetable game. I'm sure they're not big as Santa Monica or ND is, they could do the same way as Bend Studio is doing.
A small team with a longer dev cycle to ensure quality.
Primethius
Banned
*panicking intensifies*
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
lol that's pretty funny
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Deleted member 471617
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Still not expecting to see SP's new open world IP revealed until E3 2018.
Brad Grenz
Member
Maybe Bruce Straley is going to join the leadership at Suckerpunch and save the day from their imagined doom!
LifeBrandRobot
Member
So is Forwardworks connected to Playstation at all or is it a seperate entity within Sony? I see that mobile space fishing game will be coming out on PC as well but none of the consoles.
I am really curious about Sucker Punch's new IP.
We know it is Open World and Action. And that it has amazing graphics. But nothing about what it is and how it plays.
This kind of stuff is so exciting. I am hoping we got a Horizon-like reveal for their new IP. It will be even more surprising since for Horizon we had some leaked concept arts but SP new IP... nothing!
Whatever it is I hope they find the same sucess Guerrila found.
We know it is Open World and Action. And that it has amazing graphics. But nothing about what it is and how it plays.
This kind of stuff is so exciting. I am hoping we got a Horizon-like reveal for their new IP. It will be even more surprising since for Horizon we had some leaked concept arts but SP new IP... nothing!
Whatever it is I hope they find the same sucess Guerrila found.
LiquidSolid
Member
It's PlayStation's Japanese mobile gaming division. When they say PC support, think more along the lines of a browser game, not Steam. I'm not even sure they're interested in localising their games, since we still haven't heard anything about Everybody's Golf yet.
I hope we get no leaks and it's a wild concept like Horizon.
Emulated Hype
Member
I'm not sure why Sony is giving MM such a loose leash with Dreams.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
They haven't done wrong in awhile, lbp is still turning them a massive profit check their reports and they haven't even released anything. And it shows they believe in the project
Not to mention the VR potential, which Sony is investing a lot in.
Nightengale
Member
Think of ForwardWorks kinda like Sony Online Entertainment... that is more likely to stay than being sold off.
It is a PlayStation-owned and managed entity that works on mobile games, with access to internal Japan Studio talent and PlayStation IP.
But so far, it is not connected within the conventional elements of PlayStation business that we know of.
ForwardWorks handles all its own marketing, communication, etc, with practically no marketing support of the broader PlayStation family. At the same token though, they're self-managing without any of the liabilities and expectations to support the broader PlayStation family.
So, afawk, there are no commitment from FW to support the global market until they themselves deem it necessary/worth it, even as PlayStation now is a global brand where every first-party game is localised. And there is no commitment to support any form of PlayStation console too, even when there is a PC-version being made for SoraUmi.
Why is FW likely to succeed with SOE failed?
FW's board is chaired by the presidents of SIE.
It's clear that Sony/PlayStation wants the mobile money that FGO is making hand-over-fist, but they're now gun-shy about being "ONE SONY" when it comes to integrating PlayStation and Mobile Games, because previous mobile endeavours by Sony can be said to have failed because they brought in their console mindset to mobile gaming mindset ( exclusive hardware, expensive games, etc )
So instead of finding a middle ground like what Nintendo is doing with their mobile business ( mobile games that appear on iOS/Android, but still marketed and treated as part of the Nintendo family with the localisation and support from Nintendo ), they go all the way to the other end of the spectrum in that ForwardWorks barely feel like a PlayStation company at all, if not for the fact they make games based off Sony IP.
schaft0620
Member
I confirmed with that artist that his project was cancelled. Posted a screen shot of the convo a while back.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Ahh I see, TIL. If its going to be browser based maybe they're going to translate it so ppl can still play it in the West without having to publish it in the West, like Granblue.
facetheslayer92
Member
Im really curious to see more trailers/gameplay of Days Gone, I hope Bend knocks it out of the fucking park because I love seeing new IPs on console this gen do well critically like Horizon.
The game of the generation should come out at the end of the generation.
Because they are a small studio for today's standards that made a huge hit for them, and that has important role in PlayStation when it comes to tech experiments and solutions. I mean, they have Anton Mikhailov, co-creator of PS Move and PSVR, working at Media Molecule these days on Dreams tools creations and atunement. Thats how much prestige they have
And of course, the money. Even without releasing a big project for some time, year after year they have still been profitable
Having a leash on a game about creation is how you end up with Project Spark. In terms of creation there is no studio like MM and that is why Sony allows them to fully embrace their creativity.
I also get the feeling that the engine MM is using/making is going to be something they use for quite some time.
Triggerhappytel
Member
If Dreams hits its full potential it could be Sony's equivalent to Minecraft. It's no surprise they're being allowed years to work on it. I think Sony will want them to get the UI as perfect as possible.
JuanLatino
Member
hopefully Dreams gets a proper marketing then.
So far its getting hardly any attention
So far its getting hardly any attention