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Blade Runner 2049 Review Thread
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I have yet to watch the original Star Wars, just know the overall plot
episode 7 was good tho
jack_package_200
Banned
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
I can't imagine living like this. I grew up on classic cinema. There is so much there and so much to learn from classic movies.
I don't think you realize how baffling this sounds to everyone else.
The idea of very timeless movies that hold up better than most modern movies like Blade Runner and The Empire Strikes Back being too old to watch is just illogical.
Empire Strikes Back and Blade Runner hold up better than most movies released in this past 10 years.
first video game was also ocarina of time, heck of a 1st game (was living in Cuba at the time).
And now i have a hard time going back earlier than that, and prefer (for example) 3D zelda's than 2D, just what was introduced to me.
My heritage also is a big reason why I missed cinema, I was born in the 90s, and most of my childhood in Cuba
There's reasons.
I actually think the cinematography was enhanced by and enhanced the 3D. Like a lot of foreground elements made the 3D really pop, and not in the way where compositions can be done deliberately to show off 3D - this was just amazing shots and now they're in 3D.
Like imagine a gorgeous photo, figure perfectly sized and framed and composed, and now that figure is set well-composed in depth as well, not just a layer at the front. I felt it really created a sense of place.
More_Badass
Member
Not to be rude, but I got to ask how old you are. Maybe it's a generational thing
Edit: hey now, I was born '92, and my first console was the PlayStation 1.
Movies don't work like video games. We've had the modern language of cinema defined for at least the last 70 years!
25.
Came to this country at 13.
I'll give the original Blade Runner a shot, I am hoping as you guys say, that it stands up till this day
Thank fuck for once someone kept a leash on the trailers... it may hurt initial ticket sales a little, but it will go a long way for word of mouth...
Inferno313
Banned
Missing shit is fine. Lots of people miss shit.
Being opposed to going back and checking out the shit that you missed is just stubbornness and ignorance, you're really denying yourself a lot.
I'll give blade runner a shot, now it feels I cant see the new one till i experience the old one
More_Badass
Member
25 as well. I used to not really be into older movies, but I'd recommend watching some YouTube channels like Every Frame A Painting and Lessons From The Screenplay. They made me realize how well-made and gorgeous and influential those movies were, and got me to check out stuff like Seven Samurai, Jackie Chan's older films, and others
If you enjoy film for more than just action and spectacle, you're doing yourself a huge disservice by avoiding older movies
Thoughts on strange days?
Blade Runner took inspiration from so much of the film noire genre, it's not even up for debate.
Hell, several of the filmmakers even took to the classic 70's Moebius comic The Long Tomorrow for visual inspiration, and that comic is pretty much the precursor to cyberpunk and is filled to the brim with the stylistic visuals and story beats of typical noire but with some sci-fi thrown in.
Woah...
More_Badass
Member
Moebius' comics are amazing. Every sci-fi fan should check them out
My GF watched the Final Cut with me the other night, and she said if I told her it was a movie made in the last 10 years, she would have totally believed me.
When I first saw a commercial for it in the 90's, I thought it was for a new movie about to come out... imagine my surprise when I learned it came out in '82...
They spoil movies like Angry Joe spoils games... don't watch until you have already seen / played it.
"I loved the final boss battle..." [shows final boss battle]
You are not missing anything that great really.
Inferno313
Banned
Inferno313
Banned
Empire is still the greatest Hollywood blockbuster of all time.
it's the gold standard.
Is the final cut available to rent on Itunes/Apple TV?
More_Badass
Member
If anything, it sounds like a small plot point, being part of the general premise of the movie. Rather than a major plot reveal
Inferno313
Banned
For some reason, iTunes only has it to buy for $10.
Amazon has it to rent for $4 or to buy for $7 on sale.
Youtube has it to rent too, and that you should be able to watch on your Apple TV.
Currently 91%
tonysidaway
Member
Kenneth Turan, Los Angeles Times
"You can quibble with aspects of it and people being people (as opposed to replicants) surely will. But the bottom line is indisputable: As shaped by Villeneuve and his masterful creative team, especially production designer Dennis Gassner and cinematographer Roger Deakins, this film puts you firmly, brilliantly, unassailably in another world of its own devising, and that is no small thing."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-blade-runner-2049-review-20171005-story.html
"You can quibble with aspects of it and people being people (as opposed to replicants) surely will. But the bottom line is indisputable: As shaped by Villeneuve and his masterful creative team, especially production designer Dennis Gassner and cinematographer Roger Deakins, this film puts you firmly, brilliantly, unassailably in another world of its own devising, and that is no small thing."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-blade-runner-2049-review-20171005-story.html
Kenzodielocke
Banned
One thing left to say. Ford is great, wouldnt mind a best support nomination, he really loved making this movie and you can feel it.
Lots of people are going to eat crow, it was no phoning in.
Lots of people are going to eat crow, it was no phoning in.
You're right. He was way more invested in this role than the Han Solo one.
Considering he was pretty invested as Han Solo, this is fantastic
tonysidaway
Member
They are all in keeping with the location in which K and Rick finally meet. They are part of the way in which they interact, albeit a very minor part of the plot.
Trying not to be too explicit.
Sanctuary
Member
Weird. You did it again. I agree with pretty much that entire list other than one movie as far as them being some of my all time favorites from their respective genres (whether or not they are all techically all time greats).
LOL. The Fifth Element (and to a lesser extent Minority Report) to me were always more interesting versions of Blade Runner. You forgot Strange Days and Dark City though.
More_Badass
Member
Blade Runner, Minority Report, and Fifth Element have nothing alike in their atmosphere and architectural aesthetic beyond tall buildings and sci-fi
How are you even comparing them as versions of Blade Runner?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
All of those movies have one thing in common. Blade Runner was their father.
I don't think you'll regret it
Sanctuary
Member
Neither are noir, but aside from a few scenes in any of the Star Wars films, they are both the next films where the futuristic city backdrop is a very large part of the overall setting throughout the running time. Plot wise they aren't related at all, but they are still easy enough to compare visually. Minority Report has more in common with it tone wise however, even if it too has nothing really in common regarding the plot.
Also: https://www.screendaily.com/minority-report/409716.article
/shrug
It's probably just the source material relation.
tonysidaway
Member
Minority Report is also based on a work by Philip K Dick, but it's nothing like Blade Runner and isn't derived from it. Even the look of the film is the antithesis of Blade Runner's "the future is old" visual aesthetic."
The Fifth Element is from a completely different and well documented French antecedent. And again, no Blade Runner visual influence is evident.
NealMcCauley
Member
Picked up my ticket and having a beer and quick bite before heading back to the theater. There was a pretty decent crowd for the double feature.
I've seen this motion picture.
Preface: Blade Runner is one my top 10 all-time favorite movies.
2049 is pretty much an indie arthouse movie that has no chance at success. One that somehow cost $150 million what the fffffuuu
I have mixed feelings about it. After the first 15-20 minutes go by, the movie starts feeling really, reaaaaaaaaaaally slow. Like glacially paced. That's a definitely a mark against it. It doesn't have the drop dead gorgeous visuals of the original or the Vangelis soundtrack to offset these pacing issues. But it's an interesting thing to watch. Villeneuve and company definitely had a lot of ideas and by gawd it feels like they put everything and the kitchen think in here. I doubt there's anything major left in the cutting room floor. I'll probably need to rewatch it to get a better idea on the movie.
However, I need no such time to talk about the soundtrack. First, there's barely any music in the movie. And when there's music, it's mostly this loud, atonal droning that I could barely qualify as music. Why was Johan Johansson fired to get bootleg Johan Johansson? What the fuck is this shit? One of Zimmer's worst soundtracks in recent memory. The reviewer that said this score was in the spirit of Vangelis must have been deaf. Like actually, not even exaggeration deaf. This is why I can't trust reviewers of any sort.
Preface: Blade Runner is one my top 10 all-time favorite movies.
2049 is pretty much an indie arthouse movie that has no chance at success. One that somehow cost $150 million what the fffffuuu
I have mixed feelings about it. After the first 15-20 minutes go by, the movie starts feeling really, reaaaaaaaaaaally slow. Like glacially paced. That's a definitely a mark against it. It doesn't have the drop dead gorgeous visuals of the original or the Vangelis soundtrack to offset these pacing issues. But it's an interesting thing to watch. Villeneuve and company definitely had a lot of ideas and by gawd it feels like they put everything and the kitchen think in here. I doubt there's anything major left in the cutting room floor. I'll probably need to rewatch it to get a better idea on the movie.
However, I need no such time to talk about the soundtrack. First, there's barely any music in the movie. And when there's music, it's mostly this loud, atonal droning that I could barely qualify as music. Why was Johan Johansson fired to get bootleg Johan Johansson? What the fuck is this shit? One of Zimmer's worst soundtracks in recent memory. The reviewer that said this score was in the spirit of Vangelis must have been deaf. Like actually, not even exaggeration deaf. This is why I can't trust reviewers of any sort.
Tony Redgrave
Member
Yeah, that was the only part I was sure would never come even close to the original. I like what I've heard of Johansson but knew his style was quite different from Vangelis and I straight up facepalmed when Zimmer got in, I think he's brilliant but he's not cut out for this.
Since Vangelis couldn't do it, they should've scouted some new talent with a similar style IMO. Only part of the production where it seems they dropped the ball.
That's how I felt.
We will see if that changes after the double feature in about an hour.
KraftyKrankins
Member
I don't even understand. The score sounds a lot Johan Johansson's work. Why has he even fired? To create a replicant score of his work? I'm mystified by what happened here.
I dunno man, Blade Runner just never felt slow to me, definitely not like this. It's also shorter by 40 minutes, and has one of the best scores ever composed to distract me with.
I think there's some WB shenanigans going on here with Zimmer and Johan.
I watched them for the first time a few months ago and they were ok.