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The PSN update system is a nuisance.
- Thread starter -Plasma Reus-
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I'm one of those people who likes to turn things off on the wall if I'm not using them to save the electricity.
Well I have both systems in automatic update mode, plugged in and sucking down electricity like no tomorrow... And only one of them actually keeps itself up-to-date automatically for me without me needing to wait through the installation process... And that's the Xbox One.
Maybe that's a sign I should just unplug the PS4 for good... (Or at least until Bloodborne 2 comes out...)
snausagesUK
Member
Yeah the dependence on PSN for a lot of things can be frustrating. If there's a PSN outage you can't connect to FFXIV, for instance. I don't get that one especially given the cross-play aspect
theangrypirate
Member
How have you been burned by rest mode? Rest mode is like the best part of this Gen. Auto updates and not Downloads, jumping right back into the game where you left off within seconds of hitting the power button.... Why would you turn off the console completely instead of using this feature?
momshotdad
Member
Yeah it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Also, since the last update, my games have been "Copying" during the update process and it takes fucking forever. Anyone know what's going on there? It's happening to every single one of my updates.
Phoenix944
Member
Agree. I have to sit and watch the update install for at least 3min every 2 month.
This is just unbearable, I'm wasting my precious time, I could use that time to cure cancer or something. Sony plz
This is just unbearable, I'm wasting my precious time, I could use that time to cure cancer or something. Sony plz
Rellik
Member
I had the opposite problem. My Xbox One never updated itself before I sold it.
2blackcats
Member
Not if you only use your PS4 5 times a year.
The update files are, like, in the low hundreds of MBs. Assuming you're not still living in the age of 56K, that shouldn't take more than a few minutes to download even with the slowest modern connections. Go take a shit or make a sandwich or something.
And I don't think PS4 should be restarting multiple times when updating. Or not beyond two times, at least. It restarts when you start the OS firmware update and then once after it has installed, past that I don't think there should be any restarts unless something has gone wrong.
And I don't think PS4 should be restarting multiple times when updating. Or not beyond two times, at least. It restarts when you start the OS firmware update and then once after it has installed, past that I don't think there should be any restarts unless something has gone wrong.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Never had an issue.. I can't really relate.
There was a 3-week gap between 4.74 and 5.00
There was a 9-week gap between 4.72 and 4.74
There was a 3-week gap between 4.71 and 4.72
There was a 3-week gap between 4.70 and 4.71
There was a 7-week gap between 4.55 and 4.70
Not every firmware is even mandatory for PSN access and online play.
What exactly do you want them to do, release on a fixed schedule? Hold fixes that may prevent hard crashes in newly released games etc, just so the updates are more plannable?
If you're literally updating the OS every single time, you're using your PS4 at the most in 3-week intervals.
There was a 9-week gap between 4.72 and 4.74
There was a 3-week gap between 4.71 and 4.72
There was a 3-week gap between 4.70 and 4.71
There was a 7-week gap between 4.55 and 4.70
Not every firmware is even mandatory for PSN access and online play.
What exactly do you want them to do, release on a fixed schedule? Hold fixes that may prevent hard crashes in newly released games etc, just so the updates are more plannable?
If you're literally updating the OS every single time, you're using your PS4 at the most in 3-week intervals.
-Plasma Reus-
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I can't leave it in restmode:
A. Because I only use it every now and then.
B. I've had it before where the PS4 was accidentally unplugged by someone whilst switched on.
What is the reason my PS4 can't update while I chat with my friends on PSN?
A. Because I only use it every now and then.
B. I've had it before where the PS4 was accidentally unplugged by someone whilst switched on.
What is the reason my PS4 can't update while I chat with my friends on PSN?
RedAssedApe
Banned
not really sony's fault that you don't use the console. for those of us that do, we have auto-updates turned on and it auto-updates...
LOL, outside the initial update after purchase of the PS4, the three bolded updates are the only ones that OP could have experienced. (unless they were in the Beta FW). You missed the 4.73 FW update FWIW.
DonF
Member
this has happened to me:
turn on the tv, tv needs an update, turn ps4, update needed, start game..."would you like to start the game in offline mode while it downloads the update"
I thought it was funny, but it never bothered me, I just went to get a fresh drink, came back and everything was in order.
turn on the tv, tv needs an update, turn ps4, update needed, start game..."would you like to start the game in offline mode while it downloads the update"
I thought it was funny, but it never bothered me, I just went to get a fresh drink, came back and everything was in order.
Install GT5 from retail disc.
My hard drive has been corrupted twice while using rest mode.
The features are not worth losing my entire hard drive.
test_account
XP-39C²
If you want to interact with your friends during a firmware update, you can use the Playstation app on your phone: Android | iOS
If you want to visit the PS Store, it can be done through the web: https://store.playstation.com
You can provide feedback here: https://share.blog.us.playstation.com/submit-an-idea
I dont think providing feedback for this will change anything though. They want you update the firmware. Usually firmware updates patches vulnerabilities related to hacking.
Some of these complaints are not exactly common, at least from my experience.
theangrypirate
Member
Yeah, thats a bummer. I wonder if you have a defective unit?
Unless 5.0 has fixed this my Pro cuts power to the external HDD without unmounting it safely even if told to provide power to USB ports in rest mode.
As such I don't use rest mode.
Darth Pinche
Member
I still have nightmares about this. but it was gt6 for me
3rdamention
Member
You know the PS4 only gets updates like every couple months, right?. It isn't like this is some every day thing.
dancegrenade
Member
I like how you reached for something to draw from and failed to ignore that you can use all that shit on your phone.
Find something valid to complain about my dude.
InsaneTiger
Member
You just have bad timing when turning on your system. It doesn't update as often as it seems.
ComputerBlue
Member
We're not talking about game downloads here, or even game updates. Which are massive in comparison. But PS4 console updates, which are usually quite small.
Yup.
Compared to what the PS3 was like, the PS4 is lightning quick. I remember the real pain of trying to boot a game that had a shit load of updates. It was easier to just turn the console off at that point and do something else.....
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, pretty much. All I want to use my PS4 for these days is Netflix and HBO Go. I shouldn't have to bother with all these system updates that do nothing of value. I think the only time I've ever benefited from one of Sony's updates is the one on the PS3 that let me turn off trophy notifications. That was nice. That was also like half a decade ago.
AngelOFDeath
Member
How do you expect the system to auto update if it is not on.
How do you expect the system to update itself if it needs a reboot, do you have a smart phone, are you able to use it when it installs a new update?
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
The exact same reason you can't use any computer for other functions while its performing an OS update.
This is just silly. I don't think you'll find a single device or platform in existence (be it PC, Xbox, ps, steam, uplay or origin) that lets you log in and browse and stuff while it's actually updating the system/client. Being able to do all that while downloading the update is one thing but how do you expect the system to function when those very functions and workings are being replaced, altered or rewritten?
If you are running across system updates 'everytime you turn it on' then you must be using your playstation really really infrequently.
If you are running across system updates 'everytime you turn it on' then you must be using your playstation really really infrequently.
RedAssedApe
Banned
thread title should be changed to System Updates are a nuisance as I don't see how PSN is really drastically different from others.
What do you know, I only ever turn the PS4 on every couple months when some PS+ free game looks good, or I feel like playing some SFV...
Honestly, I bought it for Bloodborne and ... ... Yeah other than that and SFV, the XOne has met/exceeded my every gaming need other than those two exclusives.
/Shrug
If I had more reasons to turn the PS4 on, I would. But I don't.
My guess is, rest mode eventually decides the PS4 has been abandoned after not being turned on for a month and just fully shuts down, meaning no auto-updates.
ViolentP
Member
I mean, if you only use your PS4 every couple of months, what's another few minutes, right?
Gai Murakumo
Member
Xbox One Updates say Hi! PS4 updates are so much faster than on Xbox. It is really hard to wait those couple of minutes huh.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
This is standard behavior for internet connected devices receiving OS updates, what's so bad about the way PS does it?
PetriP-TNT
Member
Hey this is me. Almost every time I want to play a new game I have to update first.
Also who keeps their Playstation in rest mode all the time? I got that thing where the console won't shut the fuck off in rest mode at all.
ViolentP
Member
Mine is always in rest mode when I'm not using it. Gotta tell you though, it's silent.
People who use it everyday.
People who enjoy the benefits of rest mode... duh.
bitbydeath
Member
Hands down my biggest frustration this gen is the amount of time it takes for system/game updates. I was gonna pick up FIFA the other night and then realized it'd probably be an hour or so AT LEAST before I can play between installing and downloading/installing patches.
I went to play Destiny the other night and had to wait fifteen minutes for the 5.0 update to download and by the time it installed I'd already gotten sucked into Stardew Valley on the Switch. At the very least let us have updates download and standby like they do on phones.
I went to play Destiny the other night and had to wait fifteen minutes for the 5.0 update to download and by the time it installed I'd already gotten sucked into Stardew Valley on the Switch. At the very least let us have updates download and standby like they do on phones.
RayCharlizard
Member
If only turned on your PC once every few months, I wonder if Windows would have any updates for you? Hm.
Stardew Valley on Switch will also receive future updates that will prevent you from playing as they download. Why bring that up?
Honestly do you want to go back to a time where games were shat out with little to no post release support?