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Eminem draws the red line in Hip-Hop Awards cypher
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are you saying that kendrick doesn't get to the root of issues with his music and albums?
Not straight shots, with name dropping and everything, aimed towards Trump. Fans had to speculate there was some secret message (because they want it) on his last album, when there really wasn't.
IrishNinja
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dude ain't in my top 10, but this was solid
shouts to the olbermans here in OT that don't fuck with the genre outside of him though
shouts to the olbermans here in OT that don't fuck with the genre outside of him though
hahaha yup. I'm with you on that one IrishNinja.
trump isn't the root of any issue, he's the symptom
never mind that kendrick has called him out by name multiple times. heart pt. iv, his feature on isaiah rashad's album, and xxx off damn just off the top of my head
I'm not moving any goalposts. Let's not act like the majority of his material for the last decade and a half hasn't been him rapping about awful bullshit in dumb accents. Even his 'comeback' albums are riddled with dumb juvenilia.
It's just corny to me that something this easy, now, gets so much attention, yet no one gives a shit when YG put out a song called "Fuck Donald Trump" or Waka Flocka literally wipes his ass with a fratboys MAGA hat. Eminem takes aim at Trump for a few minutes, at the least risky time to do so, and people lose their shit. I remember this exact same thing happening when he came out with the Mosh video; grips of people tripping over themselves to praise him saying shit like "I haven't really listened to rap before cuz I don't like the guns and the drugs but this stuff is great!"
Ravensmash
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Ahahahaha tremendous
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Did you read the other tweets where he listed examples of how black people used platforms and it was met with loud backlash? He's not saying Em shouldn't have done this, he's highlighting how the perception of this would be entirely different.
This is the funniest shit I've heard.
I don't understand what you and CraigSJ (who I'm totally unfamiliar with, so maybe that explains why I'm not grasping this) are getting at. The examples given are Kendrick and Beyoncé, who left the performances cited more popular and revered than ever. Yeah, there was a loud backlash from the right wing (to Beyoncé, at least), but it was ultimately inconsequential outside of raising their profiles. The same thing will happen here. What's the "entirely different perception" you're referring to?
Wendel Clark
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this is important because most of his fans are alt right
stump sock
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[citation needed]
TarpitCarnivore
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The point is that Eminem speaking up is good and should be welcomed/applauded, but that in the current landscape had someone like Kendrick or Jay-Z or Beyonce come out and specifically called out Trump in the same manner there would be a very different tone to this all. Think about how Trump went after Kaep, it didn't happen under his reign but all the FA controversy did and what spiraled out from that. Had Kendrick or Beyonce done those same performances, now, things would be very different in terms of reactions.
I mean shit, Roger Waters made an entire show about Trump and how much he sucks to barely any backlash. Em will see backlash from this, but I can guarantee had this been KDot you'd have fools online talking about killing him or Trump calling him a terrorist.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Haha.
I feel kinda bad for KO. I feel like he meant well, but that tweet was definitely a foot in mouth moment.
The perception of who? Right-wing media? Of course they will be mad about it, as they are with last night. The point that doesn't quite make sense is that Eminem can do it because he can't lose anything because he is white. I'd say it's more that Eminem can't lose anything by pissing off conservatives because he is Eminem, it is old territory. Let Justin Timberlake or Taylor Swift try to say anything half as hard as this and watch their star take a beating.
That last tweet saying he isn't impressed by Eminem because Eminem doesn't have a dog in the fight is confusing. Shouldn't it be the other way around with black artist going harder if the terms are win or die?
I wouldn't say most, but Eminem would likely have more Trump-supporting fans than any other rapper.
It's great to see them being confronted like this.
Bounceounce
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You mean since the final lines of Can't Knock The Hustle and 22 Two's?
Based on the useful proven statistics of Neogaf's Wendel Clurk
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
Oh my fucking hell lmao
Most of his fans aren't even American, my friend. Just using statistics. Every boy in my school was listening to him when I was 11 in friggin Mumbai, India
Eminem could pack 30,000+ stadiums everywhere worldwide. Africa, Asia, South America. It fucking destroys this dumbass narrative that only white people like him.
You make a thread on Waka and YG? How is this the least risky time to do? When was it more risky? You moved the goalposts when you went from talking about Em's music to bringing Chuck D as if not comparing to him means what you did is less.
Also...why the hell are salty at all that attention against Trump gained any kind of traction? It's a weird argument to take your stance because of the attention brought up.
Last bit...when have YG and Waka ever had the attention Em has had on any issue?
MugiwaraCole
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Marshall, I'm sorry I said I don't wanna hear an Eminem album in 2017 yesterday. You're still the GOAT.
Wtf is this?
Wtf is this?
racketpunch
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Good shit Em. Sick spoken word.
He needs white votes in Michigan.
Uh, you might want to do the math on "two decades." Because it doesn't seem to be good.
jack_package_200
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Also here is this gem from magic semen enthusiast, pizzagator, and alt-right figurehead Mike Cernovich
ayy lmao
ReplacementPelican
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I mean to be Fair, he did say that if you're a fan of Trump and his, either make a decision towards Em or 'fuck You.'
I'm sure a lot to sane celebrities would be shocked at how many of their fans hold beliefs that they'd find abhorrent.
SSEP was the last thing he did I liked. 17 years since he's had an album worth anyone's time 🤷
That Mike Dice dude shouldn't have even bothered. Yeesh.
Edit: Also that's incredibly fucking rich for Cernovich to suddenly care about all those minorities. Dude can get fucked by a fence post.
The mental gymnastics on this guy would cause CTE.
RumblingRosco
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I think Eminem just reverse milkshake duck'd a bunch of people.
Sunset Samurai
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Those adidas? Looks like the NMDs
Slayer-33
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Noo Noooooo
Game2Death
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I've been wondering if he will reply. Makes me happy how much it probably upset him.
ebullientprism
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That Cernovich bullshit was purely meant to incite people on the left that love their purity tests.
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The Jazz Cabbage Master
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The internet over the last 24 hours -
hahahaha
Joe T.
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I really doubt Trump will touch this one, Eminem would only embarrass him and it would remain in the media spotlight. Any attempt to use Eminem's past against him to divide the left or his fans will likely draw comparisons to Trump's past, too, so there's nothing to gain here for him. He'll want to ignore this one and let it fade into the background.
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LOLOL
Pretty darn good impression!
jellies_two
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Holy shit that's an amazing impersonation.