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I never see them get warned by mods. I've been warned by calling out some of these anti-woke folks. Go figure.
Maybe Resetera is more your place...
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I never see them get warned by mods. I've been warned by calling out some of these anti-woke folks. Go figure.
I just never encountered them because I grew up in a working class enviro
Do you think pandering to this type of person is a good way to make your videogame better?
My issue isn’t with the people in the videos you posted, it’s with devs taking a giant shoehorn and forcin
And? As an artist myself, please respect and understand, that isn't always the goal of artist. They may merely be reflecting the idea that you saw in those videos, exist in their world in New York, just like showing the cops and violence of people getting robbed, mugged etc isn't done to fucking increase the sales for police officers or gang members.It isn’t increasing sales or making the games better.
It’s ticking boxes to appease the resetera crowd.
Yea, of course the type of person who would use the term BIPOC exist in NYC, and college campuses across America. I just never encountered them because I grew up in a working class environment, not charter schools on the upper west side of Manhattan. Do you think pandering to this type of person is a good way to make your videogame better? My issue isn’t with the people in the videos you posted, it’s with devs taking a giant shoehorn and forcing these out of place social justice talking points into their games. And to what end? It isn’t increasing sales or making the games better. It’s ticking boxes to appease the resetera crowd. It makes me cringe. If it doesn’t bother you, that’s fine too.
The anti-woke movement has become as obnoxious as the woke movement. Not just here, but everywhere I go I see a lot of anti-woke talk that is usually irrelevant to the topic. I have no opinion on it really. I guess I am just mildly woke. Or, mildly anti-woke. Or, just a human trying to let other humans do their human things. I suppose I will have a real opinion on it when it actually affects my day-to-day life which will most likely be never.This increasing focus from some to find “Woke” in every facet of life is kinda perplexing. Like, if they try hard enough they can find woke in the next pebble they stumble across.
I’m guessing they have a boulder sized “Woke” chip on their shoulder and just want to vent… On a gaming forum… Without being called out by mods for stealth politicking. So we get these “Sega, Nintendo, and Uncharted is too woke.” Threads.
Truth, but thats like saying gang terms generally won't be used by most. its really mostly used by people running in crowd.Its a niche academic term, not used by anyone else basically that isnt running in those circles,
which is why it feels so out of place when it gets stuffed inside movies and games.
You will never find a latino person using that term except for the same niche college brainwashed idiots, and its usually young white liberal women pushing this sort of idiotic lingo
Truth, but thats like saying gang terms generally won't be used by most. its really mostly used by people running in crowd.
Not really. It depends on the game and the film.
The way its used in Spiderman 2 is something spray painted somewhere, that makes sense.
Why would a game or movie only aim to talk about subjects or show iconography only viewed by the majority? lol
ok...but those "idiots" still exist.
So a game or film talking about them isn't that wild.
The placement of iconography should never be based on your feelings, it exist in New York, is fair game to exist in a game, film etc.
It exists but its overrepresented in terms of the amount of games and movies that shove that type of lingo in them, considering how few people actually are using it. If it popped up every once in a while it would be one thing, but its been shoved everywhere now.
Ok, but...I doubt 90% of tv shows and movies are about that lol Regardless, if those 90% are in America or really anyway in the world, I don't see what the issue is as that exist in real life....I'm gay, no way should I be represented in pretty much 90% of tv shows and movies out there.
and now "forced diversity"
to things that shouldn't have been there
Disney and Netflix race swapping characters
In terms of Sony published games they already have Ronin, Helldivers 2 and Concord scheduled for 2024, and I'm sure we'll see further announcements at State of Plays.People tends to have simple toughts and think too much about the present. They are selling a lot. But they released 1 fuck game this year. They have nothing besides exclusives from thirds next year. They doesn't proper comunicate with their community. MS will have more and more games every year.
Sony has 16 studios. Fucked 9 of them with crap gaas. Bought the crap Bungie for 4bn. It is one poor decision after another.
On the long term they are fucked.
I'm curious about the bolded. Why not?It exists but its overrepresented in terms of the amount of games and movies that shove that type of lingo in them, considering how few people actually are using it. If it popped up every once in a while it would be one thing, but its been shoved everywhere now.
I'm gay, no way should I be represented in pretty much 90% of tv shows and movies out there. There has been an over correction this past decade to make up for past discrimination and lack of representation, and now "forced diversity" has been added to things that shouldn't have been there in the first place. Disney and Netflix race swapping characters, real life characters, is the point that we have arrived now, where we have black Vikings, black English queens and a black Cleopatra, now they are actually get sued into oblivion by people of some of those countries like Egypt for rewriting history.
yes if all three do come out next year, then it would be an improvement. but helldivers 2 is a budget title and concord... we know nothing about it.In terms of Sony published games they already have Ronin, Helldivers 2 and Concord scheduled for 2024, and I'm sure we'll see further announcements at State of Plays.
How he is right. And as a long time Sony guy, owned every console, I am actually getting a Xbox this month. Never thought I woudk ever say that, but after what they did to tlou, uncharted, how they kicked days gone to thr curb because the main character wasn't woke...and on their weird west coast cringe world view. Killing off all the Japanese studios, censoring t&a and bowing down to Twitter culty pressure... Adding in gaas, Not the Sony of ps1-4 (well I guess late ps4)...Discrediting yourself in the first 16 words of a thread, that's got to be a record.
They are a Gen old and look fine. I guess for Gen z who didn't have a ps3/4 sure but most hardcore have played already and they look fine on ps5. Why would I buy something I own for $70.TLOU remakes, unnecessary? Not to me they aren't.
I'm guessing the sales numbers will show I'm not alone.
It's an apt description and I'll say it if I like. There is another forum that praises woke shit and bans any dissent. Sorry I like freedom of speech and not going with "current thing" that is being shoved down our throats day in day out.I think people who use the term woke should be tarred and feathered.
Holy shit dude. I just looked at their website and your right. Right under everyone's nose...all those studios, it explains the shift in tone. I guess I will be even more selective in my purchases, buy used, buy discount, buy using cdkeys and buy Japanese and Euro games. At 45, I have a big enough back log.It’s because all these AAA games are starting to consult with Sweet Baby Inc. it’s a consulting firm made to add woke into games and they’re all lapping it up and outsourcing it. It shows you care by having someone else do the woke crap apparently. Ha
While I do think the word is being overused, I think this is just the reaction to certain things being crowbarred into pretty much everything right now.I think people who use the term woke should be tarred and feathered.
I didn’t use to mind his videos but the ABK deal really brought out the fan boy.I stopped reading and looking at the video when i saw Destin...that guy is a joke...
Yeah. It was really bad.Spiderman 2 did have MANY cringe moments.
Saying they are fucked is a bit too harsh and seems like fortune telling. But yes, there are definitely signs that PlayStation might face harder times.People tends to have simple toughts and think too much about the present. They are selling a lot. But they released 1 fuck game this year. They have nothing besides exclusives from thirds next year. They doesn't proper comunicate with their community. MS will have more and more games every year.
Sony has 16 studios. Fucked 9 of them with crap gaas. Bought the crap Bungie for 4bn. It is one poor decision after another.
On the long term they are fucked.
Microsoft has always been the worst with astroturfing and fud campaigns. It's a vile company. Always have been.Anyone notice the increased amount of Microsoft astroturfing lately? Increased astroturfing in forums, on metacritic user reviews with ChatGPT, etc? It’s funny how it all started shortly before they dropped the console price to $350 usd. It’s almost like it’s a coordinated marketing push for the end of the year to increase sales…
Yea it’s ridiculous. And even at this game awards they were announced as a co developer for one of the games. They’re getting bigger and bigger roles and it’s just DE&I woke bullshit.Holy shit dude. I just looked at their website and your right. Right under everyone's nose...all those studios, it explains the shift in tone. I guess I will be even more selective in my purchases, buy used, buy discount, buy using cdkeys and buy Japanese and Euro games. At 45, I have a big enough back log.
Only took 1 sentence to blame 'woke'.I mean that of so many errors, bad news, the forced ways of including Woke inclusion in their I.P.S
Lmao what? Those games have sold almost 40 million units. Wtf are you on about?Not to mention unnecessary releases like The last of us Part II and Part I.
But woke doesnt existttt,its just us anti-woke exagerating right right?Yea it’s ridiculous. And even at this game awards they were announced as a co developer for one of the games. They’re getting bigger and bigger roles and it’s just DE&I woke bullshit.
Just because they're selling great doesn't mean they're doing great. They're selling cause they're the iPhone of console, they'll always sell, but looking at middle of PS3/PS4, this gen is trash, too many remakes, ceo abruptly retired, no clear direction, dozen gaas games they don't know whether to shun or burn money funding, lost main money maker (cod) with no replacement, no "gauranteed" hit incoming other than wolverine, PS plus sucks ass + price hike for it, still charging for cloud saves in 2023 etc...the only thing keeping Sony afloat is sales, while the only thing holding MS back is sales cause their future roadmap regarding games crushes sony's so far. This is the most lost I've ever seen sony before.No because Playstation is actually popular and selling really well.
Disney dominated the entertainment industry with Marvel superhero movies for a decade."We hope that the new CEO will solve so many failures that the company has had"....meanwhile PS5 is selling at a record pace worldwide and Spiderman 2 is the fastest selling game on a single platform in their history.
OP needs to differentiate what he likes from what is actually successful and sells well in gaming.
Disney is dropping nothing but flops recently, PS5 is extremely successful and Sony has been dropping nothing but hits. Just because you don't like remakes and remasters doesn't mean jack shit. Sony is selling a record amount of consoles and games, and those remakes and remasters are getting bought.
What a stupid thread that shows how out of touch some gaffers really are with the gaming populations' wants and needs.
Been with Playstation all the way since PS1, but not particularly keen on the current state of the 1st party games and how the company communicates, decline in quality of live events etc...
Naughty Dog is a Last of Us factory.
Insomniac politicising their games.
Santa Monica personally find modern God of War to be forgetful compared to the older entries and modernised in the worst ways possible, particularly the writing/character dialogue.
Bungie, Destiny factory and not interested in GAAS.
Media Molecule lol.
Guerilla, not interested in Horizon.
Main thing that keeps me with PS is the Japanese 3rd party support. Particularly Capcom, Square, From, SEGA, Namco and a few others, as well as Rockstar, Cd Project and handful of Western Studios.
This doesn't make any sense at all.Disney dominated the entertainment industry with Marvel superhero movies for a decade.
Only because Sony is dominating today doesn't mean they won't have problems tomorrow.
The writing is on the wall and more and more fans are noticing.
If you love normie-fodder then yeah, it’s great."We hope that the new CEO will solve so many failures that the company has had"....meanwhile PS5 is selling at a record pace worldwide and Spiderman 2 is the fastest selling game on a single platform in their history.
OP needs to differentiate what he likes from what is actually successful and sells well in gaming.
Disney is dropping nothing but flops recently, PS5 is extremely successful and Sony has been dropping nothing but hits. Just because you don't like remakes and remasters doesn't mean jack shit. Sony is selling a record amount of consoles and games, and those remakes and remasters are getting bought.
What a stupid thread that shows how out of touch some gaffers really are with the gaming populations' wants and needs.
Dumb argument that adds nothing to the conversation. Exactly the same can be said about people think that this phase of dominance will last forever.This doesn't make any sense at all.
Unless you can read into the future which none of us can there's no way to tell the trajectory Sony is going as far as success is. Sony is not Disney in any kind of way now. Disney is in a hole with nothing but flops being released both critically and financially. Sony isn't anywhere close to that and there is no trend showing that they are. This is stupid and baseless conjecture based on "wokeness" and nothing more.
PlayStation games mostly have been boring and uninspired cookie cutter experiences with disappointing gameplay mechanics and unlikeable characters. Take away Capcom and From Software games and there's zero reason for me to own a PlayStation at all.
Sony is making cash but hardcore Sony fans are becoming unhappy.
I kinda agree with this. With the exception of The Last of Us Factions (which may be or not cancelled) I have no interest in any upcoming Sony first-party game.Put it like this, the only reason I’m considering buying one is for GTA VI and No Rest for the Wicked.
However if Deck 2 can run GTA VI at console spec I would buy that instead.
Insomniac, ND, SM and Horizon are on a really bad trajectory IMO. Absolutely nothing going on first party wise, it’s the worst it’s ever been since the PS1 IMO.
That's first class bullshit.Sooo.....let's claim their games are disappointing and boring with cookie cutter experiences and then crown other developers that do the same thing. Capcom and From aren't made different, sorry.
That's first class bullshit.
Corporate fanboys are cringe.
No one is saying the phase of dominance will last forever, nothing is forever in this "finite" universe of ours but to say but to compare two industries that aren't related because you don't like the games a company is putting out is asinine.Dumb argument that adds nothing to the conversation. Exactly the same can be said about people think that this phase of dominance will last forever.
Read the thread. Read other threads. Read other forums. Sony is making cash but hardcore Sony fans are becoming unhappy.
Except that all indications point that even enthusiasts are buying the console and games in record numbers based on sales and market data.If you love normie-fodder then yeah, it’s great.
An enthusiast saying he doesn’t like the direction is absolutely valid, even if it’s profitable for Sony, doesn’t make it an out of touch opinion.
No I'm just tired of the same three, four users jumping into any conversation 24/7 in which Sony gets criticized and ridiculing everyone who says something negative about their favorite corporation.Anyone that disagrees with your opinion is bullshit. Ok fam.
I like From and Capcom games, but Elden Ring is a stitched together Souls experience woven into an open world. It's a medely of their other games and re-uses heavily everything that came before it, even copy pasta enemies/bosses/dungeons. Capcom's done well mostly on remakes rather than new games. They are in no way better, in aggregate, than Sony's output from an objective standpoint.
The woke shit is so overplayed, too. Like, out of a 30 hour game there's 15 minutes of borderline woke stuff that's largely inconsequential. Yet the people that want to blast it will only focus on that one part rather than everything else that's done great.
You're cringe.
If you want to talk about quantifiable data what data do you have to support this view? Are sales figures broken down by casual/enthusiast?No one is saying the phase of dominance will last forever, nothing is forever in this "finite" universe of ours but to say but to compare two industries that aren't related because you don't like the games a company is putting out is asinine.
Unless you have some sort of crystal ball that can see into the future, this is a useless and pointless comparison.
Except that all indications point that even enthusiasts are buying the console and games in record numbers based on sales and market data.
I understand not everyone should like their products but this analysis is based on horse shit right now and emotions rather than actual data. There is no quantifiable data indicating that Sony is losing the favor of enthusiasts, instead it's the opposite.
I want to see Forbidden West and Ragnarok sales data that shows how many copies were bundled with a PS5 or were digital downloads through PS+, and how many were real purchases.If you want to talk about quantifiable data what data do you have to support this view? Are sales figures broken down by casual/enthusiast?
No I'm just tired of the same three, four users jumping into any conversation 24/7 in which Sony gets criticized and ridiculing everyone who says something negative about their favorite corporatio
Spider Man was nominated in 7 categories and it didn't win a single award. Despite being one of the most nominated publishers, Sony went home with the least awards. They even got less than ever-failing Microsoft. And gamers make fun of Sony in social media and say it's well deservered.
We got a fucking price hike for PS+ despite the service getting worse every year. People are dropping their subs left and right and you stand there like a corporate version of Leslie Nielsen telling everyone that there's nothing to see.
Probably 10% if I had to guess? More for Horizon, but the fact remains they have sold well.I want to see Forbidden West and Ragnarok sales data that shows how many copies were bundled with a PS5 or were digital downloads through PS+, and how many were real purchases.