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Maka Wuhu is ruining Mario Kart 7.
- Thread starter Dacvak
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Portugeezer
Member
It's not a glitch, it's an exploit. However it's cheap and annoying, I know how to do it but chose not to unless someone else did.
This Maka Wuhu thing is a glitch though.
radioheadrule83
Banned
This exact quote was posted in this very thread much much earlier... and basically it sounds like the Nintendo rep read the question as "will you fix Mario Kart 7 in a future release" instead of "will Nintendo investigate ways to patch the bug". It needs asking again in a clearer, more exact way, in order to get a proper response.
Of course they're not going to release a v1.01 on a cartridge, but there might still be a way to force an update, even if they make it part of a mandatory firmware update and it effectively behaves as an executable that you download that runs in place of the on-card executable when you attempt to boot this particular game. They would of course have to stop allowing connections from the older game, and that may be the tricky bit.
I would like to know why people perform the glitch? Where's the enjoyment from it?
Though this may have been said within this thread; I blame the unlocking system for much of the Maka Wuhu spamming.
I have a feeling that many people are trying the unlock the gold kart as quickly as possible which would normally require 20,000 coins or 10,000 vr points. 20,000 coins is insane!!!
If you get 20 VR points for coming in first online, you would have to play Maka Wuhu for a total of 450-500 times. Whereas, if you tried collecting coins, you would have to play a total of 500 cup races; bearing in mind that you where able to collect 40 coins per cup.
Though this may have been said within this thread; I blame the unlocking system for much of the Maka Wuhu spamming.
I have a feeling that many people are trying the unlock the gold kart as quickly as possible which would normally require 20,000 coins or 10,000 vr points. 20,000 coins is insane!!!
If you get 20 VR points for coming in first online, you would have to play Maka Wuhu for a total of 450-500 times. Whereas, if you tried collecting coins, you would have to play a total of 500 cup races; bearing in mind that you where able to collect 40 coins per cup.
It started because there are assholes who like to ruin things. It's gotten so bad because it's so easy to do andeveryone is worried that the rest of the players are going to do it and have an insurmountable advantage.
StevePharma
Member
Eurogamer said:
This is why I will probably never play Nintendo games online. People with unpatched copies shouldn't even be playing online in the FIRST place, just like on PS3 and 360.
Quoted for truth.
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
I don't get why this is such a big deal. There was a glitch in the N64 version, on Frappe Snowland, I believe, where you could go back and forth across the starting line and finish a lap in seconds. Also there was the wall you could jump over in Wario Stadium, plus probably more that I can't remember. Glitches/tricks to shaving time off of your lap is an old Mario Kart tradition. Why is it just now a problem?
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Because these games have online play. You can smack your friend in the head if he cheats in MK64.
They aren't patching Skyward Sword, they've released a channel that tweaks your save data. The glitch is still there, though presumably later print runs will fix it.
Yeah, I was pissed off when this glitch was first discovered, I almost wanted to return the game.
However, I don't think its a big problem anymore, especially in higher level rooms:
- It is rarely spammed
- When it is chosen, almost everyone is aware of the glitch, making it a relatively level playing field
I'd much rather Nintendo fix it, but it's a shame that theres almost no chance of this happening.
However, I don't think its a big problem anymore, especially in higher level rooms:
- It is rarely spammed
- When it is chosen, almost everyone is aware of the glitch, making it a relatively level playing field
I'd much rather Nintendo fix it, but it's a shame that theres almost no chance of this happening.
sadly, online is the minority. My guess is less than 5% of mario kart 7 owners has hit the go online button.
Ofcoarse here in neogaf, it seems like 100% and end of the world for nintendo.
Nintendo will not lose anything by not fixing this. Mairo kart 7 will continue to sell millions every year until the next mario kart.
Ofcoarse here in neogaf, it seems like 100% and end of the world for nintendo.
Nintendo will not lose anything by not fixing this. Mairo kart 7 will continue to sell millions every year until the next mario kart.
That's kind of disconcerting, if true, that a rep for Nintendo essentially has no idea what a patch is, as it's the most obvious solution to anyone that's played a game online since the early 2000's. No matter how they construed the question, the answer is a patch.
"Nintendo, how can we stop the rising skin cancer epidemic?"
"It's obvious, we have to destroy the sun, but that's not fair to people that like the sun."
"What about sun screen?"
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Deleted member 1235
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fucking sucks that was my favourite level before I found out everyone was picking it just for the glitch. I was all 'everyone loves my favourite track!'
then they all fucked me with the glitch. I tried it once. It's stupid easy to do.
But 'rest assured' I've written this down. What a fucking response.
then they all fucked me with the glitch. I tried it once. It's stupid easy to do.
But 'rest assured' I've written this down. What a fucking response.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
what does that even mean
It means you should try reading the thread.
but the staff ghost data in Mario Kart DS used snaking.
Graphics Horse
Member
Seems there's a popular new glitch in town on the other Wuhu track. Harder to pull off and not the huge advantage, but it takes you from the lighthouse to the final corner.
I've lost substantial leads several times because of it
Said it in the other thread but earlier I was in a game where 4 people voted for Maka Wuhu and 3 voted for Wuhu Loop. WW mode is soon going to be unplayable.
Saint Gregory
Member
Ah, I was wondering why it seemed like people were jumping ahead of me there. I thought it was just network lag.
Patching out a glitch... creates an unfair advantage for the users of the original release of the game?
Somehow... they can't force you to update :|
Uh... wow.
But can't they at least make it so vanilla players can't play games with patched players? So if you really want to keep your precious exploit, you don't update, but you're forced to play with far less people?
Nothing to do with patches. They're talking about changing the new cartridges.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Snaking in MK64 or Double Dash is like wave dashing in a fighting game.
Snaking in MK DS was the equivalent of some kind of super wave dashing that forced every other character in the game to execute a single counter strategy and essentially removed all other tactics from the game besides wave dashing.
People who snaked around the track in the DS game may have felt cool for winning, but they were no longer playing Mario Kart. They were playing Mario's Slalom Challenge.
Many people who could snake around the entire course in the game felt it was lame and boring themselves, and that the game was broken. What's amusing about the debate is every time it comes up, there's always a percentage of people who say "lol whiners, babby can't play the game". When the objections to snaking in MK DS are completely rational and make sense.
FieryBalrog
Member
Japanese company and patches?
good luck!
good luck!
Why in fucks name would they be talking about that in 2012?
Unless the Nintendo rep misunderstood the question?
Could be.
Eitherway, thisisnintendodude.gif
Whenever Wuhu island comes up, send them your 3DS with the game running and let them try and win the wace for you.
Except when in similar skill levels, you need wavedashing and all the similar tactics in fighting games to be able to win. Snaking in MKDS actually is really easy compared to some required stuff in fighting games.
Sure you can agree with your friends that no-one wavedashes, uses complex combos, parrys, taunt-cancels, secret routes, rocket jumps and whatever actually requires you to master any give game, but don't come crying about it to people who want to do that... master a game.
I just really want to understand exactly what these "playstyles" or "tactics" are that everyone seems to constantly refer to when bashing snaking for supposedly eliminating them.
I mean when someone treats a racing game like anything other than, you know, a racing game, I don't think the argument is very valid.
I mean when someone treats a racing game like anything other than, you know, a racing game, I don't think the argument is very valid.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Yes, there are, in fact.
Snaking in the DS game pretty much removed actual racing from the game, like using drifting in a more conventional sense around the proper racing lines. It was so overpowered that it also made item usage just about useless except for maybe blue shell harassment.
Nobody bitched about it in Double Dash. Never heard a peep in four years of that game. The fact that everybody opened up the day the DS game came out, should have been an indication that the game was fundamentally poorly designed.
The general logic behind discovering advanced exploits of a game engine is that it makes the game more interesting. It develops a meta game. The wave dashing example in fighting games is, upon reflection, misleading.
MK DS snaking didn't increase the game's depth - it stripped it all out. Got rid of every other technique in favor of just one. It actually eliminated the meta game - or rather, crushed it down to "use this one tech or lose. There is no counter strategy."
Err, just like any other "best" metagame strategy in any other multiplayer game. Of course there is a difference between people who snake against each other. You can still use the items, you still need the secret routes, you can still snake more effectively and find new racing lines...
Or do you think someone in Tekken can win if he just refuses to use wavedashing and other advanced techniques?
Snaking in the DS game WAS racing in the game. It's not like only one player ever did it in any given match. Do you honestly believe any metagame is completely balanced and that the best (or in this case, only, really) strategy should never be used?
I just don't see how you can call a speed boost that every single character has access to in a racing genre unbalanced. It serves its point, even when exploited.
Advanced techniques are fine. The only issue is when they "limit content." Whether that means only a handful of characters are viable in a fighting game or if half of the tracks have large portions you should never actually see if you want to actually win. People want both: ways to master the game and balance.
So did snaking somehow delete half of the characters and courses?
boiled goose
good with gravy
?no update, no online?
For some reason Nintendo doesn't want to force anyone to update. What those reasons are, anyone can speculate.
Phonomezer
Banned
Nintendo are ridiculous.
blitzcloud
Banned
what does that even mean
The only way to fix it it is to modify the game for later reprints, thus leaving those who buy it later unable to do the glitch vs people who can do it.
kurtrussell
Banned
NintendoGal
Member
I'm amused that folks take to heart what the CS people say. That call center...