Well, I will say I am in agreement with Newt to an extent, Clinton should have known better. As for Newt's "I'm a historian" argument, I can't say that holds any weight.
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PoliGAF Jan 26 Debate/Florida Primary Topic
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
That "I'm a historian" line works great for everything.
"I'm not a lobbyist! I'm a historian!"
"I shouldn't be held to the same standard as Clinton was--I'm a historian!"
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
The logistical factor and spending power in Florida is greater for Romney. It's a bigger state than SC, and Romney has been spending a shitload of money in FL.
How many people do you think actually buy that though?
Voters like the SC Republican voters. And that's it I suppose.
So what, does he like own the site or something
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
LOL
Hey, that's my line.
I think we're close enough that polls are now worth watching, less for day to day movement than for macro trends, which is why I though it noteworthy. IIRC it was around this time last cycle that Dems were starting to get nervous, as the trendlines pointed to the outcome we ended up with. It's important not to overstate their significance at this point, but I think it's something worth keeping an eye on.
Where we are as summer exits and folks start to really tune into the fall election will prove much more important.
speculawyer
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The GOP is bringing back manufacturing jobs to the USA . . . . scandal manufacturing jobs that is.
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/25/gm-ceo-stands-up-for-chevy-volt-in-dc-hearing-issa-tells-nhtsa/
Why does the GOP hate American business and American innovation?
I like how accused the Obama administration of giving GM a $7500 tax-credit for each vehicle . . . . that tax-credit was bipartisan and signed into law by George Bush.
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/25/gm-ceo-stands-up-for-chevy-volt-in-dc-hearing-issa-tells-nhtsa/
Why does the GOP hate American business and American innovation?
I like how accused the Obama administration of giving GM a $7500 tax-credit for each vehicle . . . . that tax-credit was bipartisan and signed into law by George Bush.
Somehow a Volt catching on fire is because of the auto bailout. That gubment money made Ford think that they could do anything and get handouts so they didn't even try! Also, it's one I those liberal electric cars.
Romney will probably do a photo op with him holding a fire extinguisher next to a Volt. Saying he's "Putting out Obama's economic fire"
Aaron Strife
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I think the overall trend is starting to suggest Democrats have a good chance of winning back the House.Hey, that's my line.
I think we're close enough that polls are now worth watching, less for day to day movement than for macro trends, which is why I though it noteworthy. IIRC it was around this time last cycle that Dems were starting to get nervous, as the trendlines pointed to the outcome we ended up with. It's important not to overstate their significance at this point, but I think it's something worth keeping an eye on.
Where we are as summer exits and folks start to really tune into the fall election will prove much more important.
It's funny how pundits/analysts are still insisting the GOP has a lock on the House and disregarding the polls, when around this time two years ago they were all up on that shit predicting a blowout. IIRC Nate Silver is the only one who's entertained the idea of Democrats winning the House.
Personally I hope those Ohio polls are accurate. The GOP gerrymander in Ohio was intended to keep a 12-4 split in the GOP's favor, so it'd be some good karma to see them lose a couple seats anyway.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
that had to be sarcasm, had to be...
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
you never know...some people just havent been around very long.
jamesinclair
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Im scared guys. Remember what happened to soccer-age? They went from mega-thread to mega-everyone-was-banned. It took 2+ years to rebuild a soccer community here.
LOL a guy I know who is into local republican politics posted on Facebook about how Obama hasn't permitted any oil drilling. I left a comment with a link to an article showing how more oil has been drilled under Obama than any year of Bush's term minus his first one and I come back to Facebook later and the comment was deleted.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I wouldn't worry. It is like my work, they are always implementing new procedures that are eventually forgotten about. PoliGAF will be back in one form or another.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Ah, the classic "I'm going to delete this link so nobody sees the truth" Facebook maneuver. I've found it to be a classic with hard-right republicans.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
that is awesome lol.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Classic with anyone who refuses to acknowledge that they don't know everything and that their opinions have been invalidated by facts. Bugs the crap out of me. That is why ignorance will never be eradicated. People want to remain bitter and filled with hatred.
How did that happen? You guys try some mass revolt or something?
As for PoliGAF, I'm entirely agnostic about how it's organized. I just want to have some sense for what the plan is so I can follow the threads more easily. A thread is a thread.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Agreed. It's like they need something to be mad at all the time. I wish people were more reasonable.
In my experience most people are reasonable, it's just that the unreasonable are the most vocal.
A sizable portion of the American population thinking fucking Newt Gingrich should be president proves that rationality will likely never be.
windowlurker
Banned
No more official Political thread anymore?
Breaking things up into monthly general Poligaf threads serves no purpose compared to a megathread; the actual problem is when news/discussion relevant to the general GAF audience is stuck inside an insular megathread that people who don't follow constantly can't glean anything of value from because it becomes a glorified chatroom for the small number of regulars. Politics is too broad a subject for an all-encompassing megathread. If you want a politically themed chatroom, by all means start one in Community and get new threads created in off-topic for relevant news & discussions with the broader userbase.
This would probably result in me actually remembering to go to the Community forum. Count me in.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Sounds good.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
PoliGAF 2012 Community Thread
Works for now, will put together a better OP Tonight, but I thought it would be nice to get a thread together so that we can stay on topic here and talk about whatever there.
Works for now, will put together a better OP Tonight, but I thought it would be nice to get a thread together so that we can stay on topic here and talk about whatever there.
You're approaching it wrong.
PoliGAF shouldn't go from being one all-encompassing megathread to a nomadic group that has to move from one thread directly into another due to some asinine policy decision about not having one thread. That serves no purpose.
If you want "PoliGAF," do it in the Community Forum. Have a megathread. When there is a something broadly significant to discuss or report, the off-topic forum gets a thread for that. Send people from PoliGAF over to discuss it, by posting a link there in PoliGAF. The threads in the off-topic forum shouldn't be "PoliGAF" threads, but rather just plain ol' off-topic forum threads about some political story or discussion, just as everything posted on GAF works.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Lol. Post it again and again and again
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I see your point, thanks for clarifying. Trying to figure out what qualifies as a new thread I think is the problem. I'll try to post a new thread in ot when it seems significant enough.
I would think things like the results of a primary day would be worth a new topic, under this model. A significant scandal would be worth a new topic. A debate would be worth a new topic. A big terrorist leader being killed would be worth a new topic. Etc
And the PoliGAF community topic would be where we go during all the in between (and during).
Oh man, no more PoliGAF megathreads? I did more lurking than actual posting in there, but I thought it was useful to have one thread with a bunch of news and intelligent commentary/debate that I could check up on once a day or so. My concern is that, if I go a few days without checking Gaf, rather than having one subscribed thread to check up on Gaf's reactions to recent events, I might have a couple threads that I will completely miss.
I'm also not sure how this new setup will work for long stretches of downtime where there aren't any significant new political developments worthy of new threads. Where will the general political discussion go during that time? I suppose if we did start a PoliGAF thread in the community forums I might start actually going to the community forums.
I'm also not sure how this new setup will work for long stretches of downtime where there aren't any significant new political developments worthy of new threads. Where will the general political discussion go during that time? I suppose if we did start a PoliGAF thread in the community forums I might start actually going to the community forums.
See above ;b
Yeah I saw that right after I posted
It seems to make the most sense I suppose.My only question is, are the community forums able to be viewed by lurkers who haven't had accounts confirmed yet? I'm not sure how many lurkers PoliGAF currently has, but I remember before becoming a member I followed the PoliGAF thread frequently and learned a lot from the discussions in it.
Yeah I saw that right after I posted
My only question is, are the community forums able to be viewed by lurkers who haven't had accounts confirmed yet? I'm not sure how many lurkers PoliGAF currently has, but I remember before becoming a member I followed the PoliGAF thread frequently and learned a lot from the discussions in it.
Pretty sure you need an account to see community.
Edit: nevermind
Alright, cool. In that case I have no problems with the new setup. Thanks for the clarifications.
RustyNails
Member
So much hate Pelosi brings out from conservatives. This is the exact thing that's gonna play in FL from Pelosi's comments.
RustyNails
Member
Post it again. Keep posting it if he keeps deleting it. Capture the screenshot for lulz and spam it on his wall. Keep doing this until you're no longer his friend.
RustyNails
Member
Ron Paul IS at the bottom.
Invisible_Insane
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marathonfool
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I posted an article yesterday about Washington state having enough votes to pass a gay marriage law. Should I start a new thread on that? Does it go in the community thread?
Political news usually isn't an one off event like the SOTU. The conversation can stretch months, even years. As an reader of PoliGAF, a more encompassing thread is better. This just means I'll be digging through threads and find it amongst everything else in off-topic.
Political news usually isn't an one off event like the SOTU. The conversation can stretch months, even years. As an reader of PoliGAF, a more encompassing thread is better. This just means I'll be digging through threads and find it amongst everything else in off-topic.
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