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Ithil

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Parallax said:
Is the rock really a face though?
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Well, it's hard to tell. He was the last time he showed up, which was about 3 months ago.

I just don't see him really responding to anything Cena said, just saying a bunch more catchphrases again.

Which is kinda ironic, laughing off all promos and angles and joking around is exactly Cena's problem usually.
 
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Striker

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DiscoJon said:
Like who? Who did the Rock put over?
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Who has Cena put over and made a bigger star? Don't give me CM Punk and Zack Ryder, because that's grade A horseshit. Punk was climbing on his own, as was Ryder.

That jealous, anonymous wrestler, who was likely Orton or Miz, should kindly shut the fuck up. Orton is another who hasn't done diddly squat to make others into big stars. Then again Orton can't carry Smackdown but Daniel Bryan can. Go poop in another gym bag, Randy.
 
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I thought RAW was pretty good last night. I like what they are doing with Eve. Zack and Eve are getting a pretty good rub with Cena, more so Eve than Zack. The Ultimate H/Undertaker promo did go longer than expected but I'd rather have that segment drag a bit than the "acceptance" angle for 2 or 3 weeks. Cena shooting a bit on Rock was much needed for their match. It'll be interesting to see what Rock says next week. If it's the fruity pebble non-sense like he always does, color me not interested. The Diva's match was a waste of time and so was the Santino squash. If they are going to push the Bella's again, why Aksana? Talk about someone that is not ready for the ring.
 
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alstein

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Striker said:
Who has Cena put over and made a bigger star? Don't give me CM Punk and Zack Ryder, because that's grade A horseshit. Punk was climbing on his own, as was Ryder.
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Umaga if he had lived.

If the writing had been better, Barrett would have been a mega-star, but there's still plenty of time for him.


The thing is, it's much harder for a face to put over stars then a heel.
Who did Hogan put over? Or Sting in WCW?
 
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Striker

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Umaga is one guy who they kept screwing around with. The last thing I remember with him is doing a short term feud with CM Punk, lost, and I don't remember much after. He was built up as a heel-monster, but fed to Cena. He filled the bill with Great Khali and Big Show, hilarity of WWE creative writing. Difference is he was really talented unlike the slug of Khali.

re: Orton

They spent the entire year last summer by having Orton squash Christian week in and week out. Why not do something productive for all the talent?
 
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Ithil

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Striker said:
Who has Cena put over and made a bigger star? Don't give me CM Punk and Zack Ryder, because that's grade A horseshit. Punk was climbing on his own, as was Ryder.

That jealous, anonymous wrestler, who was likely Orton or Miz, should kindly shut the fuck up. Orton is another who hasn't done diddly squat to make others into big stars. Then again Orton can't carry Smackdown but Daniel Bryan can. Go poop in another gym bag, Randy.
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Orton put over Henry big time just a few months ago.
 
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Arrowgigantic

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AnEternalEnigma said:
Looks like Wade Barrett escaped a major injury. He only had a dislocated elbow. No fractures.
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Dislocated elbows can be major. This one didn't look major, though, as the arm still looked normal. If your funny bone pops completely out of the ulna and the radius, that's major. That's surgery.

Whether major or minor, you're also going to dislocate it more easily in the future. In fact, Wade may have done it before, he seemed more angry than in pain, like he knew what happened.

Also, there's a chance that after you recover you may not be able to straighten your arm all the way.
 
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Striker

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Ithil said:
Orton put over Henry big time just a few months ago.
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I always thought Henry destroying Big Show and looking like a non-cowardly heel was what put him over so much to obtain main event status. People weren't looking at him as some jobber anymore.
 
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Ithil

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Striker said:
I always thought Henry destroying Big Show and looking like a non-cowardly heel was what put him over so much to obtain main event status. People weren't looking at him as some jobber anymore.
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Beating Smackdown's biggest face clean two PPVs in a row didn't hurt.
 
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Arrowgigantic

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Ithil said:
Zack got the biggest pop of the night at the start of the PPV, long before the Rock showed up.
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Yes, but there's over and there's the top guy admitting that you're over. We all saw how far Zack got when he was over and HHH didn't acknowledge. They put that segment, which I remind you was after the PPV went dark, on next night's Raw for a reason.
 
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sajj316

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Matthew Gallant said:
Yes, but there's over and there's the top guy admitting that you're over. We all saw how far Zack got when he was over and HHH didn't acknowledge. They put that segment, which I remind you was after the PPV went dark, on next night's Raw for a reason.
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I wouldn't call Rock the top guy. He's now a special attraction with the likes of Butter Bean, Lawrence Taylor, and Floyd Mayweather.

If there is anyone helping Ryder out on and off the screen it's Cena.

Screw the Rock!
 
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jmdajr

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Sometimes I feel that the Rock is ashamed to be back. Like, he's trying really hard to pretend he's enjoying it. I could be wrong, I just get that vibe.

Rock has earned everything he has, but I can understand why the other wrestlers don't like him.
Whatever the case, that's part of the story that sells Wrestlemania. Real life animosity.

And back to Cena...PG era really hurt his character. Would Rock have succeeded as a character in PG era? I don't know... but even now when he's back they give him a free pass to say whatever he wants.
 
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RBH

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You said "Bring It Back!" And today, THQ makes your request a reality, announcing the release of WWE WrestleFest, a faithfully recreated 2-D experience for iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad based on the well-known WWE arcade game made popular in the early 1990s.

Complete with current-day WWE Superstars, prominent WWE Legends, an extensive downloadable content program, Road to WrestleMania progression play and multiplayer functionality, WWE WrestleFest is available now through Apple’s App Store for the suggested retail prices of US $2.99 (iPhone/iPod) and US $3.99 (iPad).

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Faithfully recreated in line with the classic arcade experience, WWE WrestleFest will provide players with a notable roster of current WWE Superstars and popular WWE Legends, including:

John Cena
The Rock
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
“Stone Cold” Steve Austin
Undertaker
Jake “The Snake” Roberts
“Macho Man” Randy Savage


They will explore arcade-style WWE action across a variety of match types, including Royal Rumble, Tag Team, Gauntlet and Steel Cage, while competing in a number of renowned arenas like Raw, SmackDown, WrestleMania and Saturday Night’s Main Event. The Road to WrestleMania progression-style mode will encourage players to select a WWE Superstar or WWE Legend and compete in a series of challenges to win five different WWE Championships, while wireless connectivity through Apple Game Center will enable them to issue multiplayer challenges.

WWE WrestleFest will also update the gameplay experience following launch with the release of 30 additional WWE Superstars and WWE Legends, as well as new arenas, through an extensive downloadable content program. Items currently scheduled for future release include

WWE Superstars CM Punk, Triple H and Sheamus
WWE Legends Shawn Michaels and Big Boss Man
The classic Survivor Series arena
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http://www.wwe.com/inside/thq/wwe-wrestlefest-thq-game-iphone-ipad
 
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MightyHealthy

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YAY XBLA version!!!

and I seriously hope it's not Miz talking shit about The Rock, considering he has blatantly copied most of his "style" from Dwayne.
 
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sajj316

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Matthew Gallant said:
Rock went higher than anyone on the roster has since. He'll always be top guy until Raw is pulling 7 ratings again.
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Rock was the top guy and is longer the face of the E. It is for better or worse, John Cena. Rock has a responsibility here. Wether it's Cena or someone else, he needs to do what Hogan and Austin did for him.
 
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krae_man

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Matthew Gallant said:
My wife was laughing so much at her. She probably didn't even watch the match. Probably yelled at the EMTs helping Wade for blocking her view of Punk.
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She left right away, she was a plant. WWE is too lazy to write stuff good enough to get the crowd to react the way they want, and instead of improving the writing they have resorted to crowd plants.
 
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Plant or not, that girl angry at the Miz is still hysterical

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jmdajr

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krae_man said:
She left right away, she was a plant. WWE is too lazy to write stuff good enough to get the crowd to react the way they want, and instead of improving the writing they have resorted to crowd plants.
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She left right away? You realize that fans run down there all the time right? Then they go back to their seats. I've seen it all the time.

Seems silly to me to think it was a plant.., just for that
 
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RBH

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Not gonna lie, the Hell in a Cell announcement last night was perfectly done.

It's been a long time since I was hyped for an HIAC.
 
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jmdajr

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RBH said:
Not gonna lie, the Hell in a Cell announcement last night was perfectly done.

It's been a long time since I was hyped for an HIAC.
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I'm pretty hyped. I just don't think anyone's expectations will be met if you want some Mick Foley carnage, but I think it can be awesome in different ways. I'm a huge fan of the Taker/Edge Hell in a Cell, which is basically the last good one they had.
 
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Kaladin

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Now that I think of it, Hell In A Cell is the only way this match should have happened. Triple H vs Undertaker is a dream match inside a cell because while Undertaker introduced the concept, only Triple H used it as much as Undertaker when it was for feuds only. In fact, Undertaker has been in eleven and won five, Triple H has been in 8 and won 6. You can say Undertaker "invented" the concept, but Triple H mastered it.
 
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FyreWulff

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The question is, do they hang it on top of the arena (and block a bunch of high seats views) or is it assembled right before the match starts? Seems awkward to pull off in a stadium.
 
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Kaladin

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FyreWulff said:
The question is, do they hang it on top of the arena (and block a bunch of high seats views) or is it assembled right before the match starts? Seems awkward to pull off in a stadium.
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They could make their center structure that will go over the ring tall enough and strong enough to hold it.
 
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Keyser Soze

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FyreWulff said:
The question is, do they hang it on top of the arena (and block a bunch of high seats views) or is it assembled right before the match starts? Seems awkward to pull off in a stadium.
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There is no where to hang it really, as WM is taking place at an open top arena - and they cannot build it, as it takes 30+ minutes to create the structure from scrath.

...I have no idea what they are going to do
 
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krae_man

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jmdajr said:
She left right away? You realize that fans run down there all the time right? Then they go back to their seats. I've seen it all the time.

Seems silly to me to think it was a plant.., just for that
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I know and they don't leave until security tells them to, and even then they still stick around.

She left right away on her own.
 
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Ydahs

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Last night's Raw was really good. Taker stumbled a bit during his promo, but it was clearly deliberate, trying to sell the mental struggles he faced over the last year while recovering. Taker, HHH and HBK have delivered some damn great promos over the last couple of weeks. It really hits home how far behind the current talent is in matching those three in terms of delivery and in a way, it really is an end of an era in that regard.

Oh, and Cena. That's the Cena we want to see. Cena's always talking about being himself and today, I think, was the closest we've seen to Cena's true self. It was clear that he was being drived by emotion. Sure, he may have been told to say those things, but it was delivered with a passion and intensity that made it legitimate. I now want to see Rock's retaliation, not because it's the friggin Rock but because of how he'll reply. Will he once again attack the man or will he rebut what Cena had to say?

Sucks for Wade Barrett. Absolutely love his work so it's truly a shame to see him go down like that. Knew it was something serious as soon as it happened, as he began dropping the f bombs and punching the mat. Ziggler was so damn close to being seriously injured too and Truth may have suffered another concussion or something, because he was down at ringside until very late in the match, where he was helped to the back by a referee.

AnEternalEnigma said:
Looks like Wade Barrett escaped a major injury. He only had a dislocated elbow. No fractures.
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Oh, it's major. Absolutely no chance of returning in the next couple of months.

I would say that a dislocated elbow is more severe than a fractured forearm, simply because of all the strain wrestlers put on the tendons and ligaments when lifting heavy weights. Knocking that joint out of place would have disturbed the internal structure of the elbow and since early reports indicate that he damaged both the tendons and ligaments in his elbow, his recovery time is going to be pretty damn long.

Hopefully further scans reveal that it was just a standard dislocation, or else he'll be out for several months. Wrestlers themselves need a lot of conditioning so however long it takes for his elbow to recover, he may need to add another month or two to get the strength back in his arms, chest and back. Basically, a lot of the hard work he's put into getting his body in the right shape is going to be undone since he can't do much physical activity at all.

If I had the choice of a couple of forearm fractures or a dislocated elbow, I'd definitely go with the fractures.
 
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Kaladin

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Keyser Soze said:
Yeah, that seems likely, although that seems like it would cause a blockage for some of the cheaper seats... also, I guess this means no weird lightcube thing getting lowered into the ring this year. :/
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I don't think it would need to be much bigger than it was that year, as the cell can probably fit inside the monitors on the structure.
 
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Skiptastic

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I have a suggestion for WWE to make the pain of the Wade Barrett injury lessened: replace Michael Cole on Smackdown with Wade Barrett as the heel announcer.
 
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Striker

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sajj316 said:
Rock was the top guy and is longer the face of the E. It is for better or worse, John Cena. Rock has a responsibility here. Wether it's Cena or someone else, he needs to do what Hogan and Austin did for him.
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Neither loss will hurt the guy.

Hogan-Rock was in 2002, which is roughly three years after Rock started to boom. Cena's been the top WWE guy since 2004-2005. It's 2012. A loss would not kill Cena, nor would it hurt to win. Those are not alike situations.
 
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Entropia

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You know, I really wish it was a Buried Alive match, not a Hell in a Cell. The metaphor would be pretty apparent and obvious for when HHH wins!
 
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