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Triple H |OT| February Wrasslin
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Rock vs. Cena will be 10-15 minute pre-match promo, 20-25 minute match.
UT vs. Taker will be 10-15 minute pre-match promo, 25-35 minute match. Of course a 5-10 minute delay after the match to congratulate HHH on ending the streak.
Jericho vs. Punk will be 2 minute pre-match promo, 15-20 minute match.
Sheamus vs. Bryan will have a 1 minute pre-match promo, 10-15 minute match AND be the curtain jerker.
BoboBrazil
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Wrestlemania is 4 hours long. Time won't be an issue.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I can stare at this gif for hours and it never stops being funny.
TheNatural
My Member!
Agreed. If The Rock just adds on to his self made promo video a while back he posted on Facebook or Twitter or whatever, he can basically shut Cena up. Talking about how he came back because he loves wrestling, and Cena does it for the money. Cena can talk about, worked or not, The Rock showing up to pimp his new movie but guess what? Not like Cena is working for free either. Rock sure as hell isn't coming back because he needs the money, Cena's doing it for the money. If Rock just goes with that promo, which looks like that's where it's heading, he'll ether Cena.
Who cares more about the paycheck, the guy who doesn't need to do it, or the guy who does?
MisterHero
Super Member
The Rock said he was back and that he wasn't going away. He even said he wasn't back to promote a movie.
He then wrestles once (at SummerSlam?), and promotes 2 movies, with perhaps a 3rd (Fast Five, Journey 2, and GI Joe 2). He probably gets paid thousands per appearance, and even more for the occasional Rock Bottom
There's a a big quality gap between his BS return and that of Chris Jericho.
It has nothing to do with Cena. Based on the chosen mediums for Rock's promos, Cena might as well be feuding with an anonymous internet wrestling fan.
He then wrestles once (at SummerSlam?), and promotes 2 movies, with perhaps a 3rd (Fast Five, Journey 2, and GI Joe 2). He probably gets paid thousands per appearance, and even more for the occasional Rock Bottom
There's a a big quality gap between his BS return and that of Chris Jericho.
It has nothing to do with Cena. Based on the chosen mediums for Rock's promos, Cena might as well be feuding with an anonymous internet wrestling fan.
TheNatural
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I'm no lip reader... but is he even saying "Tag team match" in that gif?
BoboBrazil
Member
Don't blame Rock, because WWE decided they wanted to fucking hype the Rock/Cena match a year in advance. I'm sure that wasn't his call. Rock can't come in full time due to filming commitments for movies and you wouldn't want him to. Every extra appearance he makes lessens the value of him appearing at Mania. The guy is coming back purely for love of wrestling, because at this point he doesn't need the money when he is making 5-10 million per movie and him appearing for WWE only hurts his credibility with movie studios as a serious actor so he surely isn't doing it to help recover some imaginary lost fanbase.
Arrowgigantic
Member
I agree 100%. That's what I understood him to mean when he said he will never "leave". He will never put WWE in the past tense.
He wrestled in the E for 8 years. John is approaching 10. That's about all John has over the Rock, a year and change of work. And most fans wish he left at 8 years, or earlier, or never showed up. Cena's promos are fucking lame, just like his whole career.
TheNatural
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Yeah and if he comes back full time, then what? Fans can bitch about how tired and old he is, like they do with Undertaker? Respect from internet smarks really means shit.
I thought the discussion was more about how the locker room felt about him. And it's not just Cena. So if you shit on Cena, you also have to shit on Punk. CM doesn't like the Rock either.
CM PUNK On The Rock: "I don't know if it's some weird vanity project for him to come back and fraternize with us little people, but I appreciate it. If it puts more money in my bank account, that's cool, even if I'm not a money guy. I'm very passionate about wrestling. This is what I do. I'm not leaving to go film movies. It's just me and the rest of the crew, the men and women of the WWE who are on the road constantly, and I'm not the only one who is, I don't want to say bitter, because I get it, it's a business move where Dwayne comes in and people buy some pay-per-views, but it's the attitude that gets to me. He's very bourgeoisie Hollywood, and I just wish he would say hello to people backstage and not act like he was above everybody. Cena doesn't act like that. Cena sits and talks and fraternizes with everybody, but Dwayne just can't be bothered. Then again, I don't know if anyone really wants to hang out with him. He was in the "Tooth Fairy." If he's so good at what he does, why doesn't he impart some of that knowledge to the young guys and help out? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why he came back. I don't think it's money. I think he's OK money-wise, so I don't know."
Arrowgigantic
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He might not be The Rock of the acting world, but he is more than "modestly successful".
I don't think CM Punk likes anyone.
FallingEdge
Member
Can you blame Cena for that though? I'm the last person to defend Cena but it always comes off (not saying you) as saying that he is the one making the final call. It is creative, Vince, among others, having the final word on how he is suppose to act. There is only so much he can do.
TheNatural
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How do I have to shit on Punk? I don't care about how Cena feels about The Rock, worked or shoot, just how the anon internet fan thinks it is. Cena did the right promo to put some heat into this feud last night, whether its worked or shoot, and The Rock can fire back in the same manner off of his Facebook promo next week. His self made promo was better shit than anything he's done on camera so far, so it's time to put some of that on camera.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Saw that Wade injury last night.. ugh. Really liked him, hope he recovers quickly. =/
Officerrob
Banned
Entertainment wise the Rock and John Cena are equal? I've heard it all now
People just need any reason to hate on Cena.
Cena could save a dozen children from a burning bus and all the internet smarks would just bitch about how he "no sold" the intense heat and didn't even seem scared.
Liquidsnake
Banned
I kinda agree.
If the Miami Heat fans are anything to go by, Miami crowds are absolute monkey crap.
Officerrob
Banned
That's fine, my problem is these guys (especially that idiot who sent the e-mail to pwinsider) giving Taker and HHH a pass. Who was the last guy HHH put over? Doesn't taker Tust show-up to wrestle once a year for a paycheck at this point? Didn't HHH squash the biggest storyline in years with his ego?
How aren't they?
TheNatural
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Rock needs to break this shit out next week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSssJxm-GuI&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSssJxm-GuI&feature=fvwrel
BoboBrazil
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The Rock is more entertaining on the mic and in the ring. I don't know who could think otherwise honestly...
Arrowgigantic
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Ratings were literally over twice what they are now when Rock was the guy.
Host Samurai
Member
Its funny to see how stacked the roster was back from 2001-2003/4 where there were so many top guys that they had to have the brand split. Now its so incredibly thin its scary.
Officerrob
Banned
The Rock is one of the best ever on the mic, Cena is above average on his best day. Hell, people are raving over Cena's promo last night for the simple fact that it wasn't crap like his mic work has been for years. Rock wasn't exactly great in the ring, but he was much better then Cena
Perspicacity
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No one wants to take that risk, Triple H and Undertaker are by far the two wrestlers with the most political sway in the back. Relatively speaking Cena and Orton (and The Rock) are nowhere in the same league
NoRéN;35342386 said:
I think he's generally cool with people who have "the passion for the business" and not the Alex Rileys who fail their way into the WWE.
Curtain Jerker? Don't you mean Dark Match?
Cena is only one man, he can't carry the whole company during a business downturn. The Rock had a million guys alongside him to keep things going. Cena doesn't exactly have a ton of other main eventers to work with who are able to set the world on fire.
The rest is just subjective and typical internet Cena hating.
The rest is just subjective and typical internet Cena hating.
Officerrob
Banned
I completely agree. My problem is the whole "anonymous" thing. If your going to be anonymous, speak the whole truth, not some cheap copy with logic so thin you can see right through it
BoboBrazil
Member
If HHH and Cena didn't bury the entire roster for the last 7+ years then there would be more guys to work with.
Pickles the Firecat
Banned
The last I heard about this someone (I think Meltzer?) noted that Rock is generally very nice, cordial, and friendly backstage. But that as time ticks down and it gets closer to his segments he gets very "locked in" and cordons himself off from the rest of the lockeroom to get into his mental state. Which is a perfectly fine way to go about doing your business.
That being said, who knows? It's all hearsay and conjecture. Some guys think he sticks to his own. Other guys think he's approachable. Maybe he approaches some guys and not others? Maybe some guys don't go up to him and some guys do? Really, who knows? And why should anyone care?
How much of a pal Rock is behind the scenes is a terrible beef for any wrestler to have. Does he perform as you would expect him to? Does he increase buy rates? Does he boost WWE's profile? If yes, who gives a shit if he's on the road? He's not a full-time wrestler! He comes in to make your business--not his--money. How can anyone be dumb enough to not be happy with a mutually beneficial deal? You know what'll be great for Zack Ryder, Justin Gabriel, Tyler Black, and the legions of other guys waiting for their shot? More eyes watching Raw. More eyes watching Smackdown. More eyes watching PPV events. Fuck "getting people over", put asses in seats and eyes on tvs and let the WWE writers figure out how to capitalize on it.
Officerrob
Banned
In the ring, your probably right. On the mic however, it's night and day
So who are these people? Who in the last 7 years could have been the new HHH, CENA, ROCK..etc.
Lol, sure, keep believing that! Who was buried that should be in the main event right now then?
Kaval... could have been the future
edit:
Bobby Lashey
Carlito
Jeff Hardy
Umaga
Mr Kennedy
Mvp
Shelton Banjamin
Jomo
Jack Swagger
Christian
of these who would you pick?
Kaval, is that you?
He wasn't buried by Cena and HHH though. Kaval is good but he wasn't going to be a draw though. I do agree that they dropped the ball with him though.
FallingEdge
Member
I was joking..
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Miz is a HORRIBLE wrestler. Send him back to FCW.
Feeling kinda sick today, so thanks for the laughs.
I'd argue Barrett for one - he should be a main eventer right now, but ever since his "fued" with Cena, he's been wallowing around the mid card with no direction.
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