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[edbrat]

1. SEGA going third party
2. FFXIII on Xbox360 (Sony is doomed!!)
3. Nintendo wii mote revealed annex Nintendo is doomed!!!

I would put Nintendo Wiimote reveal at 2, bump FFXIII betrayalton to 3. Though surely nothing will ever compare with SEGA leaving the hw business, that prompted threads for weeks and launched meltdowns for years after the announcement (only saw this through someones GAF archive, ah ancient history GAF). The only thing that might get close would be any of the current manufacturers going third party or going bust. And because this is a young industry and hasn't happened a huge amount yet, any of the great games creators or company founders / bosses passing away would be pretty big.

PS3 price announcement would be in a top ten surely and DQ to DS too, that was pretty insane.

 

[Celine]

I don't understand why Dragon Quest IX being released on a Nintendo platform was such a huge event. Looking at Wikipedia, the main series is largely a Nintendo-based franchise, with PlayStation platforms playing host to just the seventh and eighth entries; presumably due to Sony "winning" both generations. Developing Dragon Quest IX - a 2009/2010 release - for the DS game makes perfect sense considering the series has historically made a home for itself on the highest-selling consoles.

It was because they announced in 2006 that the next mainline game in the biggest japanese third-party franchise was to be released exclusively for an handheld.

Now it's quite accepted that Japan is focused on handhelds but back then it was unthinkable.

 

[Sadist]

1. Nintendo reveals the Wiiremote
2. Final Fantasy XIII betrayalton
3. Dragonquest IX on DS

My favourite GAF moments.

 

[rouken]

i'm pretty new to gaf like about a year ago, but the meltdown i witnessed first hand is this..

1. Uncharted 3 8/10 Review
2.
3.

it was glorious to see and experience, especially with the wall of shame serving as an evidence to it.

 

[ShirAhava]

1. Final Fantasy 13 on XBOX 360

http://amir0x.ytmnd.com/ < THE SONY BRAND IS OVER YO!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327004

2. Rumors of MGS4 coming to XBOX 360
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344392

3. Nintendo Wiimote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63251

 

[JaseC]

It was because they announced in 2006 that the next mainline game in the biggest japanese third-party franchise was to be released exclusively for an handheld.

Now it's quite accepted that Japan is focused on handhelds but back then it was unthinkable.

Yes, this reasoning has been brought to my attention more than once already.

 

[Kangi]

1: Wiimote reveal
2: DQ9 Betrayalton
3: FFXIII Betrayalton

(I'm too lazy to be original, so I'm just going to vote for what's already in the OP.)

I just can't get over the comments in the Wiimote thread about how Nintendo is doomed and stuff like, "Oh, yeah, Sony/Microsoft are totally gonna steal this idea. :lol"

The amazing things that happen.

 

[stilgar]

There's simply NOTHING comparable to wii reveal. Even FF betrayalton is kid's play in comparison.

1: Wiimote reveal
2:FFXIII Betrayalton
3: DQ9 Betrayalton

 

[Prime crotch]

The Wii reveal was fantastic, the namechange alone from Revolution to Wii more than stirred the waters

 

[RyougaSaotome]

The best part of the threads is how many of the 'joke' statements actually ended up coming true years later.

Man, time flies.

 

[Mxrz]

Judging on those listed, gotta go with the FF13 one. Especially given how that turned out. Surprised some of those people stuck around.

1) FF13
2) MGS4.
3) Wiiii.

 

[Pranay]

1 - Uncharted 3 Review Meltdown and hall of shame

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32102086&postcount=3251

Originally Posted by Acquiescence:
That fat fuck isn't reviewing it thankfully.

Originally Posted by French:
Very good, except that Eurogamer joke review.

Originally Posted by Meisadragon:
Wow, EG. How disappointing. When EDGE can give it a 9, how the hell did you think it was an 8? They are doing this to stand out.

Originally Posted by Radec:
lol, what an attention-whore Eurogamer is.

Originally Posted by nib95:
I'm almost certain they're leeching for attention on this one.

Originally Posted by LowEndTorque:
Amazing what Eurogamer's 8 did to drag down the overall metascore.

Originally Posted by Oozinator:
Eurogamer is angry because this master game competes with one of the few AAA made by domestic failing UK game industry (Batman AC).

Originally Posted by upJTboogie:
Lol, they knock the game for being linear? Makes sense people are unhappy with them, never cared about that site

Originally Posted by The Lamp:
When a game comes this close to perfection you have to come up with silly reasons to criticize it.

Originally Posted by Russell:
I can't believe those mutherfuckers had the nerve to give Uncharted 3 an 8.

Fucking trolls.

Originally Posted by delta25:
ya, an 8 is beyond pathetic and just a lame attempt at getting some extra hits.

Originally Posted by tusken77:
lol Eurogamer, you clowns.

Originally Posted by TrojanBlade:
Euro(Trash)gamer being a bitch as usual. WTF at that review.
Originally Posted by Second:
Quality is not subjective.

Originally Posted by Marius_:
ban this site

Originally Posted by zinder:
Fuck the score scale is really messed up. How can Uncharted 2 get 96 metacritic and Uncharted 3 92? Makes ZERO sense. It's better in every single way, yet is worse reviewed.
Originally Posted by corkscrewblow:
Watch out for the Nintendo cult.

Originally Posted by Gustav:
I really think the "8 still means it's a good game" argument really doesn't fly here. Uncharted is not simply a good game, it is outstanding in the truest sense of the word. The production value alone is unrivaled, gameplay is incredibly fluid, letting the player PLAY the most spectacular moments and the story/performance is, at least compared to its contemporaries, stellar. An 8 does not reflect that.

Originally Posted by cpp_is_king:
I don't put much stock in review scores, but generally the highest confidence measure I've found of a game's greatness is when IGN gives it a perfect 10. Obviously this leaves out tons of good games that I would consider 10s, but the false positive rate is basically 0. If IGN gives a game a perfect 10, it's basically a masterpiece.

Originally Posted by The-Warning:
people who dislike the Uncharted series have poor taste. It's a mark against their character.

Originally Posted by nib95:
Truth is, no gaming outlet is without it's flaws and really we shouldn't give too much value to any of them, but pitting certain one's as far more flawed than the others is imo nonsense. To me they're all hit and miss and all do questionable stuff.

Like Eurogamer in this instance lol.

Originally Posted by Acquiescence:
IGN giving perfect marks for EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT of the game though...that just brings a tear to my eye.
Even in your most intense, eight-out-of-ten induced fanatic delirium over a game none of you have played, I still love you GAF.

Originally Posted by CozMick:
It's beautiful gaf, absolutely beautiful.
I have 10's streaming down my face...

Originally Posted by Cheska:
In the end, the sites that actually matter have not let us down.

Originally Posted by Mooreberg:
Random internet site or somebody from G4 aren't opinions I'm particularly concerned about... ever.

Originally Posted by FINALBOSS:
Why did this Simon dude even review this game in the first place?

Originally Posted by thuway:
I really hope we see a few more 10 out of 10s. I really want to see it on top this year on metacritic.

Originally Posted by Hyuga:
There are always some "renegades" out there in the review pool.

Originally Posted by Acquiescence:
Apart from that 8/10 business with Eurogamer, but we'll just hastily sweep that under the carpet.

Originally Posted by sly2thefox:
Eurogamer is joke at this point.

Originally Posted by ThisWreckage:
When other publications and sites are giving the game high 9's to perfect 10's and then Eurogamer comes along and gives it an 8 I can't help but laugh. What's sad is that their 8 score will garner a ton of hits and they know it.

Originally Posted by KingK:
that Eurogamer review was kinda shitty.

Originally Posted by VIVIblkmgIc:
Uncharted 3 may have better core gameplay than many other games, but people will reject it on the grounds of putting a character with a personality up front.

Originally Posted by _tetsuo_:
The Uncharted receiving 8's from these sites is a good thing. We know which ones to ask the mods to ban now.

Originally Posted by Dragon:
eurogamer you piece of shit!!

Originally Posted by Gvaz:
10 means perfection or pretty fucking close to it, the fuck are you smoking

Originally Posted by Cheska:
It's almost like he hasn't played an Uncharted game at all.

Originally Posted by Luckyman:
CliffyB is right about Eurogamer. "Haters!"

Originally Posted by Cheska:
And while an 8/10 is by no means a bad score, it sticks out like a sore thumb, especially when stacking against more credible websites.

Originally Posted by Marius_:
Is anybody else F5ing the metacritic page every minute to see if the score changes or is it just me
and everything on this page onwards treating the oft-lambasted IGN as gospel when it produces scores judged as acceptable by those who haven't played the bloody game yet.

Originally Posted by Russell:
Anyone who gives Uncharted 3 anything less than a 9.0 is nothing but a troll and deserves to be slapped.

Originally Posted by Tricky I Shadow:
a mod should change the title to “Official Uncharted 3 Reviews Thread”, and put in at the end “IGN – 10/10”
Originally Posted by Marius_:
ITS AT 94 AGAIN!!!!!!

[Celebratory GIF of joy in response to a change of number on Metacritic]

Originally Posted by squidyj:
I feel like an 8/10 is less than what Uncharted 3 deserves [...] I, obviously, haven't had a chance to play Uncharted 3 yet [...] I think Uncharted 3 deserves more than an 8.

Originally Posted by jonnyp:
Did anyone expect Eurogamer to give an exclusive AAA PS3 game more than 8/10? Oh Eurogamer...

Originally Posted by squidyj:
Speaks to a deficit of character, being so drawn to this thread for the sole purpose of repeatedly shaming admonishing or demonstrating some form of believed superiority over the huddled masses of 'Uncharted fanboys'.

Originally Posted by Your Excellency:
if Uncharted 3 is objectively better than Uncharted 2, yet gets lower scores, then we have a situation on our hands..

Originally Posted by BruiserBear:
Sure, it's possible they actually believed the game was an 8/10, or a 4/5. But if they follow this industry closely, and play a lot of games each year, it's just hard to believe.

Originally Posted by Lothars:
I do have issue with someone taking Eurogamer as a credible review site, I don't think they ever have been credible actually I feel exactly the same way about them as I do about EDGE.

Originally Posted by BruiserBear:
if I saw a game like Uncharted 3 roll across my desk, I could not envision myself giving that game less than a 9/10.

Originally Posted by Callibretto:
UC3 is at the top of the game and should be scored as such.
Originally Posted by upJTboogie:
EG is getting so many extra clicks because of this.

Originally Posted by BruiserBear:
No, I have argued that they hit enough high points to warrant better than an 8/10.

Originally Posted by Your Excellency:
10 out of 10 is a way of saying 'this game does everything right', not 'this game could not possibly be any better'.

Originally Posted by Marius_:
Back to a 94!! get me on my meds!!

[ANOTHER CELEBRATORY GIF CELEBRATING THE SLIGHT CHANGE TO THE METACRITIC AVERAGE]

Originally Posted by thuway:
GTA IV / Halo got 10s from every single site / publication ever, and those games reeked of shit.

Originally Posted by Your Excellency:
All signs are pointing to Uncharted 3 being a 10/10 game but it won't receive 10/10 because the main character happened to appear in another game on the console a while back. That is bullshit. You don't see people giving Godfather 2 a 8/10 score because it reuses the same characters and settings from The Godfather.

Originally Posted by BruiserBear:
If those same reviewers were handed this game, and it wasn't called Uncharted 3, it would get a higher score. Because this is Uncharted 3, they decided it was time to give a statement score.

Originally Posted by spwolf:
if you give game that gets 94 score on average same grade as game that gets 58 on average, it means you are simply not fit for the job.

Originally Posted by tha_devil:
But looking at other game reviews from eurogamer that received an 8. Uncharted is clearly better than those.

Originally Posted by Lion Heart:
none of this hate would exist if this were Xbox or Nintendo exclusive.

Originally Posted by spwolf:
this is not an question of hard ass reviewer, but simply an person willing to play the hits game - as thats what their salary depends on.

Originally Posted by BruiserBear:
when you see a reviewer throw down an 8/10, or a 4/5, you get the distinct feeling they're trying to make a statement. Like they're special, or different, and they see things in a more critical light. They're fully aware this game offers a polished package that almost no other game this year will deliver, and yet they're going to make sure it's not getting the highest score possible

Originally Posted by tha_devil:
uncharted is a 9/10 or maybe 10/10 game, i can understand if u think its an 8 game. But if u compare it to other 8/10 reviews on eurogamer, i think this is very unfair to uncharted. With it unmatched production values.

Originally Posted by arbok26:
I mean Uncharted games always make you feel good inside, and he says this in his review many times that its a crowd pleaser... so why be a whiney little bitch about it.... the guy was just in a bad mood...

Originally Posted by Duxxy3:
Eurogamer is just attention whoring.

Originally Posted by spwolf:
If your reviews constantly differ from rest of the community, then you are simply not fit for the job.

Originally Posted by BruiserBear:
The sum of Uncharted 3's parts make it worthy of a higher score than an 8/10. Based purely on what I know right now, without having even played the single player campaign, I know this. Anyone reviewing videogames today knows this.

A final reminder, for history, that at the time of writing NONE OF THE ABOVE HAVE ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME.

 

[MarshMellow96]

Not going to vote but what about the DQX reveal? I seem to recall that getting a bit crazy.

 

[patapuf]

Oh god, i forgot how many people totally lost it in that 8/10 thread. Quality is not subjective! and nobody had actually played the game.

 

[Augemitbutter]

I'd like to nominate the carnival of stupid (last and best in a long line of "MGS4 for Xbox?!?!?" eruptions)

absolutely this. loved it.

 

[robotnjik]

1. FFXIII on 360
2. DMC 4 going multiplatform

 

[nickcv]

updated the op with the current nomination to make voting easier.

i didn't add those that i don't have the link for.

 

[Kandrick]

1. FFXIII on Xbox 360

It really was a true megaton, and the way it was unveiled was amazing. People were notexpecting Wada to come back when the conference was about to end and tap on Matrick's shoulder. The reactions when it happened and the next minutes was just awesome, meltdowns everywhere.

A classic.

 

[JaseC]

1 - Uncharted 3 Review Meltdown and hall of shame

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32102086&postcount=3251

There is no logic driving the "Eurogamer gave it an 8, not at least a 9, therefore they're after hits" mindset. Even going by the oft-mentioned 7-10 scale, 8 and 9 sit firmly in the middle, not to mention it's a difference of a single point.

Edit: The "wall of shame" is even more amusing when you consider that the game hadn't yet released, and now, well after people have actually played it, it's widely believed to have fallen short of Uncharted 2.

 

[MehsterChief]

Man, reading through the quotes from the UC3 review thread is hilarious to me. How can you be so obsessed with what other people think about a game you like (but probably hadn't even played at that point)?

Grow up.

 

[mclem]

Monster Hunter 4's an interesting case in that when it was announced, it was known that Sony still had a conference to come and assumed that it'd be coming to Vita too; Nintendo just got the first announcement. It was particularly interesting to see the realisation dawn as the thread went on that no announcement was coming.

Some people are still convinced it'll happen even now. While it might, it's by no means the certainty they believe.


I will admit to finding the 8/10 for Uncharted 3 perhaps the most amusing; while they're by no means perfect, Eurogamer is probably my favourite review site, so I was curious to see if they'd be vindicated by the final game. I feel they were.

I've recently been working through the Assassin's Creed series, and I think that the first game had a similar denial-that-the-game-could-be-flawed aspect to it, although not to the extent that UC3 did. That then got turned around with AC2, with just about every other page of the OP having someone ask for confirmation that they *got it right this time*.


Is there a followup to the Dyack thread post-release?

 

[ULTROS!]

I'll vote for the ones the ones I've seen 2010 and above, basically when I started GAFfing:

1. Bungie takes new IP to Activision for 10 year multiplatform publishing deal - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=394113
2. Dragon Quest X for Wii/WiiU... Online! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443626

 

[TheSeks]

1. UC3 reviews
2. FFXIII going to 360

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Man, reading through the quotes from the UC3 review thread is hilarious to me. How can you be so obsessed with what other people think about a game you like (but probably hadn't even played at that point)?

Grow up.

It's bad, and I don't wanna sound like I'm defending it - but some of those quotes are not supposed to be taken seriously.

 

[clemenx]

FFXIII betralyaton wins in virtue of the "I'm an expert post" still cracks me up.

This one:

Square just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase FFXIII for either system, nor will they purchase any of Square's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Square has alienated an entire market with this move.

Square, publicly apologize and cancel FFXIII for 360 or you can kiss your business goodbye.

So gooood.

 

[Danielsan]

1. FFXIII multiplatform
2. DMC4 multiplatform

If I remember correctly these two were back to back and created a wonderful shit storm.

 

[PixyJunket]

The top three should easily be Sony related threads. Maybe a Nintendo thread in a decision for the third place spot?

That FF XIII thread is an absolute joy to read.

 

[Joe White]

1. FFXIII going to 360
2. Wiimote Reveal
3. UC3 reviews

 

[06nbarnhill]

Ohhh the memories from when back when I was only a lurker.

Amazing how Nintendo went from doomed with the Wii Remote and DS vs PSP to absolutely taking the generation of tech by the neck and strangling it into probably their brightest golden age.

But man....I an nostalgia'ing hard right now. Will read through all those threads in the coming days.

 

[RealDeadOne]

1. Denis Dyack Meltdown - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318653
2. Carnival of Stupid - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344392
3. Uncharted 3 Reviews - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32102086 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=3251

The Denis Dyack incident had to win for me, it was what first brought me here! The fact that everybody was feeding right into Dyack's apparent trolling was almost as amazing as the fact that Denis Dyack was trolling everybody on the internet.

I actually witnessed the MGS4 360 "event" play out from several different sites as I wasn't a poster here yet, and it was even more stupid on GameFAQs and /v/ as I'm sure you'd imagine. Reading through that thread now just shows how little difference there is between GFAQs and GAF even though we like to see ourselves as above them.

The Uncharted 3 Review meltdown is another one I chose because at the time I was so astounded that GAF was still at such a low maturity level I registered for my account so I could post in the thread.

 

[Nibel]

1. Final Fantasy XIII Betrayalton
2. Uncharted 3 Reviews + hall of shame
3. Dragon Quest X for Wii/WiiU... Online!

 

[WrenchNinja]

Really? No mention of TP GameSpot 8.8? Or the frankenstick denial? Or the DMC4 going multiplat?

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

The Uncharted 3 thing is hilarious for two reasons. The first and foremost being the obvious, embarrassing connection people have with review scores and the 7-10 scale.

The funnier thing to me, though, was the fact the game shipped with broken controls and didn't deserve even those scores.

 

[HylianTom]

Amazing how Nintendo went from doomed with the Wii Remote and DS vs PSP to absolutely taking the generation of tech by the neck and strangling it into probably their brightest golden age.

Those were strange, beautiful days. The monthly NPD threads were hysterical as well, with Mama Robotnik's legendary gifs punctuating the festivities. Witnessing all of that angst from that tough-guy, hardcorier-than-thou crowd about "their" hobby being threatened by the casual menace was delicious.

edit:

I'll vote:
1) Wii Remove Reveal Thread
2) Sony E3 2006 Official Thread - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98549
3) Final Fantasy 13 to 360 Thread

 

[Hayeya]

Nothing will ever top FFXIII on 360, nothing, i still feel bad remembering that day :

1. Final Fantasy XIII Betrayalton - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327004
2. Devil May Cry 4 Multiplatform - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147121
3. Dragon Quest IX Betrayalton - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133134


The problem with DQ9 for me is that i had a DS at the time, but i felt betrayed somehow,, i wanted the game to be on PS2 or PS3,,,, Dragon quest 8 is one of the greatest jrpg that i have ever played and i just hated portable jrpg.

OP add the folllowing meltdowns please:
- tekken 6 on 360
- Sony e3 2006 circus (599$, ridge racer, crabs,...........)
- GTA multiplatform

 

[MisterHero]

1. Denis Dyack
2. Jeff Bell

 

[KevinCow]

Was GAF around when MS bought Rare?

That must've been a fun thread.

 

[nickcv]

Nothing will ever top FFXIII on 360, nothing, i still feel bad remembering that day :

1. Final Fantasy XIII Betrayalton - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327004
2. Devil May Cry 4 Multiplatform - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147121
3. Dragon Quest IX Betrayalton - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133134


The problem with DQ9 for me is that i had a DS at the time, but i felt betrayed somehow,, i wanted the game to be on PS2 or PS3,,,, Dragon quest 8 is one of the greatest jrpg that i have ever played and i just hated portable jrpg.

OP add the folllowing meltdowns please:
- tekken 6 on 360
- Sony e3 2006 circus (599$, ridge racer, crabs,...........)
- GTA multiplatform

if some of you guys provide the link i will... right now i'm at work and i don't have time to do the search myself.

Really? No mention of TP GameSpot 8.8? Or the frankenstick denial? Or the DMC4 going multiplat?

DMC4 is in the OP

1. Denis Dyack
2. Jeff Bell

which one is this?

 

[RPG_Fanatic]

I'm going to have to nominate Epic Mickey being revealed exclusive to Wii.

So many bans and rage.

 

[The Emperor]

FFXIII betralyaton wins in virtue of the "I'm an expert post" still cracks me up.

This one:


So gooood.

The funny thing about the "I'm an expert post" is that Square did end up shooting themselves in the foot with FFXIII, but not for the reason the post describes.

On topic:

I lurked on gaf and the FFXIII meltdown thread was one of the highlights of that phase.

1. FFXIII
2. DQIX
3. Uncharted 3 8/10 fiasco

 

[JaseC]

which one is this?

http://www.1up.com/news/microsoft-jeff-bell-calls-forum

 

[Slime]

http://download.gamevideos.com/Podcasts/EGM/031207.mp3

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Subscribed

I'll have to think on this one though

 

[bobbytkc]

The biggest has to be Final Fantasy 13.
That meltdown was glorious.

All that hoohah over what turned out to be a shit game (my opinion, don't tell me what I can or cannot like). Nothing beats that for me.

 

[MikeE21286]

1. Final Fantasy XIII Betrayalton - that was some magical shit right there. Watching the E3 conference when it dropped was...yeah....

2. Denis Dyack Meltdown - GAF notoriety was claimed at this juncture

3. Metal Gear Solid 4 on 360 aka The Carnival of Stupid - again, more hilarity ensues

 

[Imbarkus]

I'd like to read the controversial Jeff Bell whatever. Can someone post a link to that thread?

EDIT: Wow Beaten. Thanks!

On an unrelated note, I wish every "Banned" tag was a link to the person's post that got them banned. I'm always curious how it happened.

 

[VeryGooster]

I'm pretty certain the FFXIII meltdown is how I came to discover NeoGAF... or at least what prompted me to sign up for it.

 

[Perkel]

Finalfantasy 13 it was like birthday for trolls and christmas.

But back then most of people believed something like console exclusives from 3rd party publishers.

 

[Radec]

MGS4 winning GAF GotY.

Spoiler

twice

 

[Venfayth]

I have briefly searched the internet:

What is a betrayalton?

Is that where a company makes a move that enrages its fanboys?