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Assassin's Creed III: American Revolution setting confirmed [Game Informer/Box Art]
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harriet the spy
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It partially comes from the fact that few people like to waive their flag as much as americans do. I am not being sarcastic or passive aggressive, just saying it's a fairly strong cultural difference. So non-americans, when they see another piece of media with a flag on it, can't help but react with what they culturally associate with flag-waiving, which is usually blind patriotism. I might of course be missing some flag-waiving countries.
To give you an idea, if you ever see a french person put a french flag in front of his house, there are 95% chances he is racist and a far-right supporter.
Serious question, because I don't know if it exists: find another game cover with a huge ass flag of a country behind it. It can be a french game with a french flag, a canadian game with a canadian flag behind it, or a japanese flag with a japanese flag on the cover.
I don't disagree, but I think you are extrapolating too far from what we know. America's role in the AC universe is still incredibly limited. Its founding must have had tenable repercussions for both ends of the spectrum. In this case, it's not about the location as a passive actor (like, Italy, or Jersaluem) but the plot, characters, and overall lore is inexorably tied to the founding of the country. But, again, they could literally just focus on the struggles of the Native Americans as a third-party to the warring forces, which, I will concede, is very representative of this series.
LizardKing
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I really hope they have a lush countryside with stealth. Like stealth in cornfields, snow, forests, swamps. Sort of like a MGS3 type gameplay addition.
UnluckyKate
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C'mon, son.
I'm sorry, didn't meant to be offensive. But I feel like american people are really sensitive and there's always someone to jump on anything for any reasons. Mass Effect love scene ? RE5 black zombies ?
So in a election period, seeing french based company going all over the most important history event in US history, and probably touching to the holy founding fathers as part of religious conspirations... No, I just can't see this without some Fox News controversy
pieatorium
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Not behind but the cover has a flag bearer, Empire Total War. But it is kinda fitting there since the game is about building /expanding the british empire placing your flag around the world so to speak.
Nice catch there Antons...
Underestimate is one word, and that isn't how you spell character.
edit: You were offensive and come of as unintelligent in doing so. Please don't generalize.
Underestimate is one word, and that isn't how you spell character.
edit: You were offensive and come of as unintelligent in doing so. Please don't generalize.
XANDER CAGE
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In this case, though, the flag immediately clues the audience into the setting. In case you haven't noticed, that is not the current American flag.
Also, the game is made by French Canadians, so...
Well, I agree with the first part of your comment. You can cut through political-correctness with a knife on occasion. Even now, the RE5 zombie thing angers me. But, you also have to realize whatever experience you have had with that sensitivity is often unrepresentative of the general population. Most people just don't give a shit. Vocal minority type of thing; bolstered by spineless political-correctness.
IMHO.
The Antitype
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True. We know from the previous AC games (AC2 and Brotherhood, specifically), that both groups were involved in the formation of America - or more specifically, the push for a unrestricted, capitalist, democratic nation. The Templars felt it would give them the freedom and power to manipulate and control large groups of people, the Assassin's wanted it because they felt it would give the people the most power to control their destinies.
My position is that the notion of 'America' beyond these systems, is meaningless to both groups. Any emotional meaning will be tied to the history and experience of the main character, and whatever investment he has with the events that form the country.
As a half-Native, it makes sense that he would be ambivalent, because whatever positives the Assassin's see in the formation of this country, it's still his people getting stomped on to make it happen. I doubt very much his stance will be 'America, fuck yeah!' - more likely than not, there is a secret tied to the formation of the country that will prove integral to stopping the end of days in 2012.
As for the lineage issue, people were colonizing the area long before the colonists started getting uppity about taxation without representation. It's not out of line to think that Assassin's and Templars alike (or European descent) travelled there to sew the seeds of what would become the revolution. Take a european assassin from Ezio's bloodline, make some sweet love with a Native girl, boom, you have your new Assassin.
It also needs to be pointed out that this is PROMOTIONAL ART, not CONCEPT ART. There is a difference. The American flag doesn't necessarily serve any purpose other than to make it immediately obvious to anyone that the new game is taking place in the formative years of the country. If this were in CONCEPT ART, then it would be different, because that would imply an internal initiative to set the thematic and emotional tone for the game.
LightofRohan
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Here is an interpretation of New York in the 1600's from the History channel (sorry for poor quality):
Looks pretty cool to me! Plus the assumption you'll be going to London ect. seems promising.
From this video series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xkd9k1jkA
(shows a lot of what could be in AC3)
*oops
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There are also some parts of Manhattan today that resemble what they did back then as well, not the same stonework ect, but very similarly constructed.
Looks pretty cool to me! Plus the assumption you'll be going to London ect. seems promising.
From this video series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xkd9k1jkA
(shows a lot of what could be in AC3)
*oops
* There are also some parts of Manhattan today that resemble what they did back then as well, not the same stonework ect, but very similarly constructed.
harriet the spy
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I fail to see why the fact that the flag is different is relevant. It's still an american flag, and obviously so.
And I am also pretty sure there are many ways to give away the setting without putting a huge flag in the back ground, especially with the super obviously native american character. People are not that dumb. Putting the flag in the background was most likely done to elicit a positive reaction from US gamers, not to clarify something that is obvious at first sight.
It is a very cool looking flag, though.
XANDER CAGE
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I'd usually agree that adding a flag in is boring and/or pandering, but considering the game is set in the American Revolution and may even have slightly controversial takes on the American Revolution (as silly as they may be) I think it's totally valid. It's set during a war over whether or not people would even recognize that flag as a nation's symbol. It's an image that implies the conflict the game's set in, not "oh hey guys fuck year americuh" or whatever.
pieatorium
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Actually there really isn't that much that would give both the time and geographical setting, outside maybe having the MC pouring a big bag labled tea into the ocean.
LyleLanley
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I'm glad everyone brought their jump to conclusion mats today.
jakonovski
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This makes me sad. Ubi has no courage it seems.
The Antitype
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1) They explained that already. You can find the answer on the assassins creed wiki.
2) Just released some DLC for Revelations that starts hinting at why. But in an interview with Game Informer (can't remember what issue), the lead writing on Revelations stated that they know the question hasn't been answered yet. It's intentional and they WILL get to the details of why it happened. It's not a matter of poor storytelling execution, it was planned to be left unresolved thus far.
Sounds like something your avatar would sell.
People talk about wanting a game that takes place in modern-day, but I've always wanted at least a big chunk to take place back THEN.
texasairhead101
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I really hope they don't limit the areas visited; would love to see them go extreme with history events from across the country.
And my first thought was how the sequels very easily could go into other areas like with Benjamin Franklin in the French revolution.
And my first thought was how the sequels very easily could go into other areas like with Benjamin Franklin in the French revolution.
desertdroog
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Unintentional satire with a side of irony. Nice.
I am stoked for this game! Love the AC series! Number 2 of my 4 most anticipated titles this year.
Because they referenced the most famous painting depicting the historical setting of their game?
Where do you people get this stuff from?
The only thing I'm still waiting for at this point is the inevitable San Andreas-type backlash to a minority main character. Can't relate, don't want to listen to drums and chants the whole game, etc and so forth.
LightofRohan
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Yeah, these types of threads where nobody knows anything always just turns into; Optimists vs. Pessimists. I'm having good faith they'll deliver. I enjoyed the AC games -- just got tired of the drawn out setting/characters. And I'm glad they are going the ballsy path and trying something completely different.
desertdroog
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I hope it is Jesper Kyd realized chants and war songs with a bit of Tomahawk's Anonymous ablum style sprinkled in!
LyleLanley
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The only thing I didn't like about any of the previous AC games was the repetitive gameplay in the first one. They haven't failed to deliver an awesome environment so far and I don't think they'll start with this.
The Antitype
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Nah, people would complain that the white hood is out of place.
I'll have to read a synopsis of that DLC.
As for number 1, I don't see an article describing why that scene was important, rather just a summary of what happened. I'll take another look though.
I feel the same way, this is that one burning question I have always wanted answered and would love to be able to interact with it.
I love the idea of a species/what-have-you that were more evolved than humans (ahead of their time) and yet were eliminated somehow.
The 5th is the day being tossed round
jakonovski
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An assassin hanging out with a figure that until now was described as a Templar? I am of course aware that it might be a marketing trick, but it's asinine to act as if it wasn't there, as you seem to be doing with your ridiculous "where do you get this stuff" posturing.
I've heard this game will rely much more on smart NPCs and will have bigger battles.
Still, I think projectiles kill the parkour, and Revelations dragged because of all the in-game games. I hope they strike a balance and don't make a shooter out of AC (because you know they would lov to if it sells).
I first and foremost loved the slow pace of AC1 because I really felt I was superior in climbing and jumping everywhere, the sequels have, to my opinion, broken parkour which is a shame.
Still, I think projectiles kill the parkour, and Revelations dragged because of all the in-game games. I hope they strike a balance and don't make a shooter out of AC (because you know they would lov to if it sells).
I first and foremost loved the slow pace of AC1 because I really felt I was superior in climbing and jumping everywhere, the sequels have, to my opinion, broken parkour which is a shame.
OdysseusVA
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Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
Idea sounds dope as shit to me
Holy Christ is this thread full of wankery
Holy Christ is this thread full of wankery
scar tissue
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Totally not what I was hoping for
America's buildings in that period of time weren't that impressive compared to Rome or Constantinople.
Still pumped!
America's buildings in that period of time weren't that impressive compared to Rome or Constantinople.
Still pumped!
That flag is not always British
. It changes depending on locale. It's Dutch here in the Netherlands for instance, American in the United States.The Antitype
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The race that came before (call them aliens or just ancients, it doesn't matter) created humans in their own image to serve as slaves to serve them, using their own DNA. Both races lived in a huge, technological city called Eden, where the Ancients used their technology to control the humans.
Adam and Eve were different. Something in their DNA allowed them to resist the powers of the Ancient's technology... a skill that has since been passed down to the Assassins and showcased by both Altair and Ezio. Adam and Eve stole a piece of the Ancient technology and fled Eden. This act of rebellion led to the war between the humans and the ancients.
Before the war could end the EVENT happened, and destroyed Eden along with the ancients, leaving the humans to inhabit Earth.
We still don't know what the event was, or why it caused the vast majority of human kind to 'forget' their origins and instead interpret the past as popular/biblical myth.
But apparently, it's going to happen again in 2012.... right around the same time the Templars are planning to launch Eden technology on a satellite with the plans of using it to control/influence the minds of the entire globe.
Both Desmond and Subject 16 are descendants of Adam and Eve, which is why they have Eagle Vision and make for particularly potent Animus subjects. They are, essentially, the last known direct line back to the Ancients that created humans.
Subject 16 has stated that Eve's DNA is the key. We don't know why yet, but it likely has something to do with their original ability to resist the control of the ancients.
Adam and Eve were different. Something in their DNA allowed them to resist the powers of the Ancient's technology... a skill that has since been passed down to the Assassins and showcased by both Altair and Ezio. Adam and Eve stole a piece of the Ancient technology and fled Eden. This act of rebellion led to the war between the humans and the ancients.
Before the war could end the EVENT happened, and destroyed Eden along with the ancients, leaving the humans to inhabit Earth.
We still don't know what the event was, or why it caused the vast majority of human kind to 'forget' their origins and instead interpret the past as popular/biblical myth.
But apparently, it's going to happen again in 2012.... right around the same time the Templars are planning to launch Eden technology on a satellite with the plans of using it to control/influence the minds of the entire globe.
Both Desmond and Subject 16 are descendants of Adam and Eve, which is why they have Eagle Vision and make for particularly potent Animus subjects. They are, essentially, the last known direct line back to the Ancients that created humans.
Subject 16 has stated that Eve's DNA is the key. We don't know why yet, but it likely has something to do with their original ability to resist the control of the ancients.
Phife Dawg
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Interesting setting but I sure hope he isn't jumping around and blending in in that robe - would be hilarious.
If they change the formula this time I'd be down. Didn't like I, enjoyed II but grew bored of the formula towards the end, didn't bother with the ones that came after (looked more of the same).
If they change the formula this time I'd be down. Didn't like I, enjoyed II but grew bored of the formula towards the end, didn't bother with the ones that came after (looked more of the same).
Now it is being pieced together.
Coupled with the scene at the end of Revelations (where the event occurred) that timeline makes sense. Taking the (truth) scene by itself is confusing though.
As you pointed out, it gave more questions than answers (not that we should expect differently from the AC series). I guess the main question now is what caused the event and why is it set to happen again?
As you pointed out, it gave more questions than answers (not that we should expect differently from the AC series). I guess the main question now is what caused the event and why is it set to happen again?
scar tissue
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Yeah, the fistfight with the pope was hilarious. I wish they had shown some balls and insulted the muslim community equally, tho. (in Revelations)
The Antitype
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Yeah, you're right. Forgot about that revelation.
See what I did there?
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around how Eve's DNA can help them prevent a cosmic event from transpiring again. I mean, that's kind of out of their hands, no?
Zomba13
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a 50/50 split between modern day and ancient times would be my ideal for the last in the Desmond storyline. Guess we get this though =/
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