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PS Vita western launch thread, p. 2 | Simply the most desirable handheld yet released

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krpiper

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arimanius said:
Ugh I want to buy a new game today but can't decide between HSG and The Show.

Was hoping the HSG demo yesterday would help but it only made my decision tougher :(
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I bought MLB, you can tell its a lunch title, but its a really solid baseball game and I am satisfied
 
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snap0212

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I love my Vita but this is starting to really annoy me to no end.

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I don't own a single handheld device that can't install stuff in the background and when the Vita signs out of the PSN for no particular reason (all the time), they shouldn't force me to watch the waiting-screen over and over again. That should be done in the background. I cannot believe how no one at Sony said "We can't ship like that. We just can't".
 
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TheTowel

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Didn't mind the "Please wait" bonanza at first but it's become clear that its just too much. Leave me signed into PSN and the other stuff together in the background with an option to turn it off for a battery saving mode. Shit needs to be seamless in today's world. I shouldn't have to sign into friends and group messaging and then party hat separately.
 
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slaughterking

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snap0212 said:
I love my Vita but this is starting to really annoy me to no end.

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I don't own a single handheld device that can't install stuff in the background and when the Vita signs out of the PSN for no particular reason (all the time), they shouldn't force me to watch the waiting-screen over and over again. That should be done in the background. I cannot believe how no one at Sony said "We can't ship like that. We just can't".[/QUOTE]

The installing doesn't bother me at all, but the PSN sign-in on the other hand is very, very annoying, yeah. And very inconsistent, too. A lot of the time I don't even know if I'm currently logged in or not and why.
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whitehawk

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snap0212 said:
I love my Vita but this is starting to really annoy me to no end.

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I don't own a single handheld device that can't install stuff in the background and when the Vita signs out of the PSN for no particular reason (all the time), they shouldn't force me to watch the waiting-screen over and over again. That should be done in the background. I cannot believe how no one at Sony said "We can't ship like that. We just can't".
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Dude, even the XBox 360 and PS3 can't sign in to XBL/PSN in the background. Hopefully they let us stay signed in as an option though, for when we are playing at home.
 
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pharmboy044

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JWong said:
Please wait or 3 hour battery life.

Deal with it.
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I'll hands down take the three hour battery life if it meant I can always be online, avoid those "connecting to Playstation Network" messages and have those devs not automatically disable the network when you start the game.

Hopefully Sony changes this and it looks like they can because a lot of my friends who are on the Vita look like they are online just in the "away" mode.
 
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gkryhewy

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whitehawk said:
Dude, even the XBox 360 and PS3 can't sign in to XBL/PSN in the background. Hopefully they let us stay signed in as an option though, for when we are playing at home.
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Not sure about the PS3 (don't have one), but XBL is pretty much instant on/off with this stuff. Vita takes forever, but it's not a big deal. Well, adding all that Ridge Racer DLC to my queue last night was pretty awful, and took forever. Please wait... installing...
 
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JWong

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pharmboy044 said:
I'll hands down take the three hour battery life if it meant I can always be online, avoid those "connecting to Playstation Network" messages and have those devs not automatically disable the network when you start the game.

Hopefully Sony changes this and it looks like they can because a lot of my friends who are on the Vita look like they are online just in the "away" mode.
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If you want to be always online, then you don't want a lot of other things, like multitasking and sleep mode.

frequency said:
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I want to stay connected.
You don't have to mock people who have a different opinion than you.

Three hours is more than enough for my use.
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How ironic when you talk about having different opinions when you want three hours use.

A lot of other people don't have your luxury of being able to charge, especially for a mobile device.
 
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dallow_bg

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frequency said:
I would take a three hour battery life without hesitation if it means I can stay connected.
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Same, hope they give us the option of being 'always connected' and note that battery life is affected.

I don't care, I only play at home, and it sits in the dock charging when I put it down.
 
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frequency

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JWong said:
How ironic when you talk about having different opinions when you want three hours use.

A lot of other people don't have your luxury of being able to charge, especially for a mobile device.
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Did I say it shouldn't be just an option?
And more importantly, did I mock you for having a different opinion?

No. I didn't. I simply said that I would take three hours battery life if I can stay connected.
You, on the other hand, felt like posting a reply to my post by laughing at me.

Conversations are great. That's what forums are for - discussing different opinions. Responding by insulting and adding nothing of value is not. I don't know why you can't see that difference.
 
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I think a choice is pretty reasonable. I am not bothered by it at all as I value battery life, but I can understand that people who only use it at home could be ok with a pretty bad battery life.
 
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Ken

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Grinchy said:
I think a choice is pretty reasonable. I am not bothered by it at all as I value battery life, but I can understand that people who only use it at home could be ok with a pretty bad battery life.
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Options are always welcome. Why there's no "high performance option" (like in Birth by Sleep or laptops) or notification appearance options is bleh.
 
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JakkuFurosu

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dallow_bg said:
I'm looking forward to what FW updates bring to this system.
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absolutely.
as responsive and great for what it is there is definitely room for improvement and I believe well start seeing things dribbling in slowly but surely soon enough.

for the love of everything holy gimme some por....flash support already!!
 
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krae_man

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Snuggler said:
I felt like a dummy for spending $15 on Plants Vs. Zombies, but man, I forgot how addictive it is. I must have played it for like three hours straight after downloading it. It's overpriced relative to the other PvZ ports (which happen to be on every gaming platform ever made), but for the amount of fun and longevity you can get out of it, it's a fair price. It plays so well with touch screen controls, I think it's even better than playing it with a mouse. Now I want more touch screen-only games.
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It's not touch screen only. You can shake the Vita to collect coins and sun :)

Anyway, the slot machine trophy is eluding me. I don't remember it ever being this hard to get. Or to get triples in general. I played till I died(didn't bother collecting sunlight) and only got two triples, one of sunflowers and one of walnuts. All the other times I played this mode on the other versions I would run out of lawn to plant stuff well before I even got 2000 sun.

Oh well, I'm getting tons of plants at least which will help with the grinding.
 
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KalBalboa

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Speaking of firmware updates, I wonder if we should expect quarterly updates akin to the recent PS3 FW or the usual XBL dashboard ones or if we'll get them whenever Sony feels like popping them out to us.

I've never minded getting small updates once every month or two rather than just two or three substantial updates a year, but I'm a little more forgiving in that way than most, I think.
 
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JWong

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frequency said:
Did I say it shouldn't be just an option?
And more importantly, did I mock you for having a different opinion?

No. I didn't. I simply said that I would take three hours battery life if I can stay connected.
You, on the other hand, felt like posting a reply to my post by laughing at me.

Conversations are great. That's what forums are for - discussing different opinions. Responding by insulting and adding nothing of value is not. I don't know why you can't see that difference.
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It's not an option. Something like that isn't a switch. You either build the OS and Game for it, or you don't.

And it's not even an OS level call that's logging into PSN. It's the individual application logging into PSN. When you freeze or put the application into sleep mode, that application logs off because the server believes you've logged off since the game is frozen.

So, I should expand my original point, it's not just Always online vs 3 hours battery life.

It's Always Online vs 3 hours battery life, no multitasking, no sleep mode, and probably a load of other things that will break the Vita OS.

Oh yes, all past and current games will not work with the Always Online feature if they decide to implement it. All they can do is speed up the process and hope everyone has good connectivity.
 
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BruiserBear

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JackFrost said:
for the love of everything holy gimme some por....flash support already!!
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I don't think you're ever going to see that. For the exact same reasons the iPhone and iPad have ignored it, and most people aren't bothered by it. Flash is being phased out, not phased in.


I too would love to see some OS tweaks. That logging in and "waiting" message are getting irritating. Also, the friends app is just silly sometimes. It goes through elaborate reloading for no good reason. It's as if none of it is stored in memory. So weird.

Also, it's about time we get a PS3 update to reflect some of the changes with the arrival of the Vita. For example, they seem to have figured out most of us don't care to see "Johnny logged off" messages, as the Vita doesn't have them, but they're still popping up on the PS3. Also, they had better put out a PS3 update to show Vita trophies. It's ridiculous this isn't possible yet.
 
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snap0212

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JWong said:
It's not an option. Something like that isn't a switch. You either build the OS and Game for it, or you don't.

And it's not even an OS level call that's logging into PSN. It's the individual application logging into PSN. When you freeze or put the application into sleep mode, that application logs off because the server believes you've logged off since the game is frozen.

So, I should expand my original point, it's not just Always online vs 3 hours battery life.

It's Always Online vs 3 hours battery life, no multitasking, no sleep mode, and probably a load of other things that will break the Vita OS.

Oh yes, all past and current games will not work with the Always Online feature if they decide to implement it. All they can do is speed up the process and hope everyone has good connectivity.
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You could have made the very same argument back when we didn't have in-game XMB on the PS3. Do you work for Sony or why should your assumption be worth more than anyone else's?
 
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dallow_bg

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JWong said:
It's not an option. Something like that isn't a switch. You either build the OS and Game for it, or you don't.

And it's not even an OS level call that's logging into PSN. It's the individual application logging into PSN. When you freeze or put the application into sleep mode, that application logs off because the server believes you've logged off since the game is frozen.

So, I should expand my original point, it's not just Always online vs 3 hours battery life.

It's Always Online vs 3 hours battery life, no multitasking, no sleep mode, and probably a load of other things that will break the Vita OS.

Oh yes, all past and current games will not work with the Always Online feature if they decide to implement it. All they can do is speed up the process and hope everyone has good connectivity.
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Sounds like a FW update + game patches are in order.
 
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frequency

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JWong said:
It's not an option. Something like that isn't a switch. You either build the OS and Game for it, or you don't.

And it's not even an OS level call that's logging into PSN. It's the individual application logging into PSN. When you freeze or put the application into sleep mode, that application logs off because the server believes you've logged off since the game is frozen.

So, I should expand my original point, it's not just Always online vs 3 hours battery life.

It's Always Online vs 3 hours battery life, no multitasking, no sleep mode, and probably a load of other things that will break the Vita OS.

Oh yes, all past and current games will not work with the Always Online feature if they decide to implement it. All they can do is speed up the process and hope everyone has good connectivity.
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But you can log into PSN outside of apps. And I'm connected to the network outside of apps. I can even be connected while in sleep mode. My downloads, from PSN, continue if the Vita is sleeping.
If I'm in party chat, it'll stay connected to party chat no matter what I have open or closed (except for games like Uncharted that purposely turn it off the network on you).
So this leads me to believe that the current OS actually has the ability to leave you connected.

Plus my PS3 stays connected all the time. Why can't the Vita?

If I had the choice between
being connected at all times and having a lower battery life
or
being disconnected all the time and not knowing if I'm really online or not with a longer battery life

I choose the first option.

And if that's not possible, then that's too bad for me I guess. Theoretically, I would still prefer to be connected at all times - even at the expense of battery life.


Also note that that's not the issue I took with your mocking post.
The issue I took is that you would mock someone in the first place. Your post now is a great post. It presents some of the technical barriers you believe exist and addresses how you don't think it's possible to stay connected. Your other post was "Hahaha oh you're so funny."

See the difference between conversation and insults?
But anyway... I didn't want to single out a post, since these types of things run rampant on the internet. But stuff like that really hurts my feelings. I guess I'm not thick skinned enough or whatever. The internet would be a better place if people were more respectful of each other.
 
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FantasticMrFoxdie

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Eh. I'd rather have more battery life than being connected online at all times. I've actually been pulling a good 5-6 hours out of my battery playing PSP games with the Wi-Fi on and brightness at 25%

I'm sure they will update that soon though. Makes no sense to have it sign out all the time, especially with all the online functionality Sony has been boasting.
 
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Plinko

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XxSlasherMcGirkxX

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God I wish I could use the buttons while in Video and Music. Where are the video options Sony? I seriously can't full screen a video or loop a time frame. PSP does this why not on Vita. The touch is so sloppy in those menus too. It's also aggravating that If I wanna skip a track I have to pick up the Vita and touch a small spot on the screen and hope it doesn't register as a double touch. Plus the fact that the screen saver kicks in during music play. So you have to wake up the Vita and go past the welcome screen and back into music. WHY CAN'T I JUST USE BUTTONS LIKE THE PSP! PATCH THIS SHIT!

Sorry I really needed to vent. Carry on.
 
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burgerdog

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I've been meaning to ask this since launch day: I thought oleds had great viewing angles? Whenever I tilt my vita slightly in any direction the colors change dramatically.
 
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Corto

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burgerdog said:
I've been meaning to ask this since launch day: I thought oleds had great viewing angles? Whenever I tilt my vita slightly in any direction the colors change dramatically.
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I'll check in a few minutes but I don't seem to remember that to be a problem. Maybe a reflection of the environmental light on the screen?
 
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btkadams

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burgerdog said:
I've been meaning to ask this since launch day: I thought oleds had great viewing angles? Whenever I tilt my vita slightly in any direction the colors change dramatically.
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the colours change how? specifically, which colours turn to what colour? i'm looking at mine right now and the image looks pretty much identical no matter what angle i hold it.
 
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Eusis

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I believe filters can diminish the viewing angles. Or at least it seemed like mine had wider angles before the Hori filter was applied.
 
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patsu

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frequency said:
Plus my PS3 stays connected all the time. Why can't the Vita?
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The Vita can stay connected all the time, but it would have noticeably shorter battery life. That said, I think Sony should be able to optimize the experience better, or provide a "power" option.

But before they give Vita an "always on" option, they must deal with the intrusive notifications first. On Vita, the notifications are much more intrusive due to the smaller screen estate.
 
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frequency

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patsu said:
The Vita can stay connected all the time, but it would have noticeably shorter battery life. That said, I think Sony should be able to optimize the experience better, or provide a "power" option.

But before they give Vita an "always on" option, they must deal with the intrusive notifications first. On Vita, the notifications are much more intrusive due to the smaller screen estate.
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But that was the discussion. Always on at the expense of battery life.
I would prefer to be always connected even if it means my battery life suffers.
It can be a setting. Maybe something like how on a Windows laptop, you can change power settings.

But I agree that the notifications thing is an issue too. And it would only be worse if it was always connected.
 
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SRTtoZ

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burgerdog said:
I've been meaning to ask this since launch day: I thought oleds had great viewing angles? Whenever I tilt my vita slightly in any direction the colors change dramatically.
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Please explain more. The viewing angles on the Vita screen are downright amazing. They blow my Alienware LCD out of the water, as well as my 40" Panasonic plasma and my new 40" Samsung LCD. Do you have a screen protector on? I do not use a protector and this is by far the best viewing angle Ive had on a device in my lifetime.
 
Grinchy

Grinchy

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I bought Mutant Blobs Attack and finished the college level with all <250ish rankings and all friends found. This game is awesome so far. Really glad I listened to other gaffers about it.
 
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burgerdog

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I took two screens, maybe this is normal and I'm just freaking out for no reason?

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See how the colors are a lot lighter in the second picture? This also happens if I tilt it sideways.
 
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