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He's like a green Herman Cain.
It looks like something out of transformers/terminator salvation/insert any generic sci fi from the past five years.Some people thought Heli-Carrier would look stupid.
Heli-Carrier says FUCK YOU.
This movie has the potential to be epic, but I have the feeling it's going to end up with Spiderman 3 syndrome of too many heroes stuffed into a single movie.
This movie has the potential to be epic, but I have the feeling it's going to end up with Spiderman 3 syndrome of too many heroes stuffed into a single movie.
If there's one thing Whedon can get right, it's a large cast. That's why they hired him.
This movie has been planned since the beginning to have too many heroes stuffed in it. Spiderman 3 was stuffed because executives ordered to add and shoehorned Eddie Brock and Venom into the script. Gwen Stacy was also shoehorned into the film.
It is truly perfect. Comic movie of forever.Some people thought Heli-Carrier would look stupid.
Heli-Carrier says FUCK YOU.
If there's one thing Whedon can get right, it's a large cast. That's why they hired him.
If by 'right' you mean what he has done with large casts in the past, then man are we in trouble.
If by 'right' you mean what he has done with large casts in the past, then man are we in trouble.
1. How can you have an Avengers movie with "too many heroes stuffed in it". It's the Avengers. It can't even come off plausibly right unless there's at least 5-6 team members.
2. Suggesting that Whedon can't do large casts may as well be a straight up troll. Or proof that Whedon hate is merely mindless and not rational. Bloody hell, it's practically his best legitimate ability. He has proven already he can do it, multiple times in multiple TV shows and in a feature film. Even Book's practical cameo appearance in the Firefly movie was done as meaningfully as humanly possible within time constraints.
1. The point is that The Avengers movie shouldn't have ever been made. The very idea of it cheapens every character involved with it because either not enough time can be paid attention to their development or as we have seen; their standalone arcs in the form of preceding movies have suffered as a result of cramming Avengers bullshit into it. Then you have the problem of trying to plausibly retcon/tone down characters so that they can fit in with the other members.
2. The point being made there was that Whedon hasn't made anything that has been good - including Firefly/Serenity or Buffy.
Says the guy who saw John Carter.
Says the guy who liked John Carter.
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1. The point is that The Avengers movie shouldn't have ever been made. The very idea of it cheapens every character involved with it because either not enough time can be paid attention to their development or as we have seen; their standalone arcs in the form of preceding movies have suffered as a result of cramming Avengers bullshit into it. Then you have the problem of trying to plausibly retcon/tone down characters so that they can fit in with the other members.
2. The point being made there was that Whedon hasn't made anything that has been good - including Firefly/Serenity or Buffy.
1. The point is that The Avengers movie shouldn't have ever been made. The very idea of it cheapens every character involved with it because either not enough time can be paid attention to their development or as we have seen; their standalone arcs in the form of preceding movies have suffered as a result of cramming Avengers bullshit into it. Then you have the problem of trying to plausibly retcon/tone down characters so that they can fit in with the other members.
You needn't further the idea of my impeccable palette. Most are aware.
Says the guy who liked John Carter.
Or maybe it'll actually work and be a good movie.
And what do you care if an Avengers movie is made or not anyway?
Man John Carter is 10 times the film this will be
Disagree with Sculli, the singular films were all entertaining, with parts of a greater narriative included. Iron Man 2 suffered a bit from this, but not drastically.
I think its refreshing to see superhero movies with bright colors, lighter stories, and as much fun and humor to match the action. Nolan's Batman movies are incredible, but there is room for this kind of stuff too, and both can be enjoyed by the same audience.
The Avengers may be a little forced, but its still gonna be a fun ride. This isn't like Transformers was or Battleship looks to be in terms of ridiculous and dumbed down. Give it a shot.
Because it literally dampens the quality of standalone films that could have otherwise been much better. Iron Man 2 had the Avengers bullshit barge into the film halfway through the fucking movie. Iron Man 2 became a huge drag because of it.
The fact that the writers have to shoehorn this bullshit into the standalone films only serves to kill the validity of each individual property. AvP says hi, fellas.
"I'm not interested in your little boy band."
"I'm not here to talk about that."
Yeah, that 3 second exchange killed the whole movie.
These movies, IM2 included, have hardly been crowded with Avengers references (which is way fucking overblown to the point where people are complaining that the first Iron Man was saddled with too much Avengers!), and any issues they've had certainly have nothing to do with existing in a shared universe. The only people who have even noticed any allusions to the Avengers are those who hardly knew about the Avengers beforehand.
"I'm not interested in your little boy band."
"I'm not here to talk about that."
Yeah, that 3 second exchange killed the whole movie.
These movies, IM2 included, have hardly been crowded with Avengers references to the point where it impairs the rest of the film; any issues they've had certainly have nothing to do with existing in a shared universe. The only people who have even noticed any allusions to the Avengers are those who knew about it beforehand.
You're describing Raimi's Spider-man films, which I'm all for. I have no problem with camping it up, so please don't construe my problem as wanting everything to be more like Batman. I just want the time and care to make one great movie paid to each of these properties, rather than sacrificing the narrative possibilities for the financial possibilities (which I still think is a huge mistake).
The Helicarrier predates that by almost 20 years.
"I'm not interested in your little boy band."
"I'm not here to talk about that."
Yeah, that 3 second exchange killed the whole movie.
These movies, IM2 included, have hardly been crowded with Avengers references to the point where it impairs the rest of the film; any issues they've had certainly have nothing to do with existing in a shared universe. The only people who have even noticed any allusions to the Avengers are those who knew about it beforehand.
While I agree that it doesn't impair the films (Iron Man 2 maybe a bit) you can't downplay the fact that all these movies, as fun as they may be, have that shadow of building toward something else in them. Thor probably had the least of it (and damn, I love Thor), but its there. I don't think its a bad thing, but I can see why some people are a little bothered by it. Consumers don't want to feel like they're investing in the future movies, they want to enjoy the one they're watching. Personally, I enjoyed them all and look forward to the Avengers, but it makes sense for some to be put off by it.
The Helicarrier predates that by almost 20 years.
Yep. You get it.
It was especially disgusting in how they wrapped Captain America up. Not that the film was all that great to begin with.
Cause 11tyhundred different people have drawn it various different ways.It used to look very different.
While I agree that it doesn't impair the films (Iron Man 2 maybe a bit) you can't downplay the fact that all these movies, as fun as they may be, have that shadow of building toward something else in them. Thor probably had the least of it (and damn, I love Thor), but its there. I don't think its a bad thing, but I can see why some people are a little bothered by it. Consumers don't want to feel like they're investing in the future movies, they want to enjoy the one they're watching. Personally, I enjoyed them all and look forward to the Avengers, but it makes sense for some to be put off by it.
Oh, I'll definitely check out The Avengers. I just wish were getting better standalone films instead.
1. The point is that The Avengers movie shouldn't have ever been made. The very idea of it cheapens every character involved with it because either not enough time can be paid attention to their development or as we have seen; their standalone arcs in the form of preceding movies have suffered as a result of cramming Avengers bullshit into it. Then you have the problem of trying to plausibly retcon/tone down characters so that they can fit in with the other members.
2. The point being made there was that Whedon hasn't made anything that has been good - including Firefly/Serenity or Buffy.
Dude, the only reason Nick Fury and Scarlett ever show up in the fucking movie is to introduce their character for the eventual Avengers set up. Neither of them, nor the narrative time-wasting their characters forced upon the film should have been there in the first place.
Couldn't agree more. IM2 glaring problem was not having a focus plot wise.
To be honest I can't remember the specifics of those films, mostly because I found those films forgettable. I do remember it felt really cheap to cut Cap's relationship with that bird short just as he had become Cap for the sake of rushing him to the future ASAP for the sake of getting him into The Avengers. Then the Loki shit.
Basically any time Sam Jackson rocks up in one of the films, I roll my eyes.
But a lot of my grievances do come from IM2. Shoe-horning Scarlett's antics all throughout the film was bad. As was Jackson's random involvement.
1. The point is that The Avengers movie shouldn't have ever been made. The very idea of it cheapens every character involved with it because either not enough time can be paid attention to their development or as we have seen; their standalone arcs in the form of preceding movies have suffered as a result of cramming Avengers bullshit into it. Then you have the problem of trying to plausibly retcon/tone down characters so that they can fit in with the other members.
2. The point being made there was that Whedon hasn't made anything that has been good - including Firefly/Serenity or Buffy.
I knew it would come to this eventually, but dammit, Sculli, why does this have to be the one thing we disagree about?
Oh so your problem is that you have absolutely fucking terrible opinions.