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Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Boozeroony

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Yes, god forbid you learn something.

Also, I really need to label the numbers of the women texting me. I'm beginning to confuse one for the other.

I never use names only. I just name them by their attractive traits. Saved my ass a couple of times.
 

Oxn

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Got a link to this thread? I remember there being a thread like that but it was full of all these super hardcore people with all sorts of fancy bodybuilder terminology and shit, it was very intimidating.

Got your excuse all lined up before even reading the thread huh?
 
Getting physically fit doesn't have to be a complex and daunting task, Danj.

Back when I was just starting out in middle school (aka junior high) I was chunky kid but by the time I was in 8th grade I was really fit. And how I got fit was just by simply running a mile (1.6 km) every week, doing push ups and sit ups every day (just start out with a few reps and then work your way up to more reps when you are able to do so), and by cutting out a lot of fast food from my diet.

Simple repetition of simple actions can cause huge amounts of change. Remember that.
 
You can also install a pullup bar in a room and do pullups and chinups every day. You dont even need track pants, you can do it while rocking out with your cock out!
 
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Deleted member 81567

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Danj just do p90x. Don't have to focus on making your own routine and self-motivating yourself, since Tony does that for you. P90x is the best solution.
 

Ether_Snake

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Ok, so where do women not like being approached? I know this sounds like the same question I asked before, but I noticed someone said on the last page that the gym is one of those places.

When dancing, sort of. Unless you are hot and dancing too. It's the rare occasion they have of just flaunting their sexy selves with a bunch of friends in public. They don't want to stop to talk to you.

edit: And yeah being in good shape is pretty easy. I go only once a week to the gym, but I eat healthy. Makes all the difference and I'm in good shape. It's diet first.
 

Danj

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edit: And yeah being in good shape is pretty easy. I go only once a week to the gym, but I eat healthy. Makes all the difference and I'm in good shape. It's diet first.

Well, let me know when they invent that miracle diet that can be done for less than £50 a month using only microwave or oven cooking.
 

Danj

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not in your case.

Just saying it is meaningless unless you have a plan in mind

Okay, well, I got a recommendation to get some dumbbells, so I put a set of those on my birthday wishlist on Amazon with highest priority.

But other than that no, I don't have enough information to have a plan yet.
 

Septimius

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P90X is a pretty great thing, but it my view, jumping straight into it from being a couch potato is efficient, but if you go from never working out to working out 6 days a week, and dropping all bad habits cold turkey, it's not really the first week that's hardest if you're determined, but when your body starts fighting back is when you have to cope with something you've never experienced before.

I did a month of P90X a year ago. I never got back into it after that first month, though. I gave my body a break since it was summer, and it took with both hands. Now I'm gonna do the same thing again, but I'll probably only be working out four days a week instead and not have a huge calorie deficit. Slow and steady really, really wins the race. If you're super determined, or already rather fit, you can cope, but for those of us that want to be in healthy shape, but doesn't need to take it further, designing a program that will always be doable for you is what's paramount. You can do P90X, but use it the way you want. It's a great program that allows you to do everything at home, and if you dare go beyond what you're thought there, you are on a good track.
 

Ether_Snake

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Well, let me know when they invent that miracle diet that can be done for less than £50 a month using only microwave or oven cooking.

Ok list everything you had to eat yesterday. Don't omit anything.
 

Danj

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Ok list everything you had to eat yesterday. Don't omit anything.

As far as I recall, I had a bowl of cornflakes with milk for breakfast, a sandwich with sliced processed chicken and pickle for lunch, and oven-cooked burgers, fries and microwaved baked beans for dinner. Yes, I acknowledge that the burgers and fries are not healthy, but I don't know of anything healthy costing the same or less money that can be cooked using the oven and/or the microwave.
 
As far as I recall, I had a bowl of cornflakes with milk for breakfast, a sandwich with sliced processed chicken and pickle for lunch, and oven-cooked burgers, fries and microwaved baked beans for dinner. Yes, I acknowledge that the burgers and fries are not healthy, but I don't know of anything healthy costing the same or less money that can be cooked using the oven and/or the microwave.

Buy this. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005M8IP0W/?tag=neogaf0e-20
and make chilis and stews.

Buy chicken in bulk and cook it in the oven with lemon and pepper. Look for recipes that use chicken.

Buy Eggs, and milk, ground beef and other basic ingredients instead of buying premade burgers and fries.

Stop contributing your bad diet to your wallet.
 

Ether_Snake

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As far as I recall, I had a bowl of cornflakes with milk for breakfast, a sandwich with sliced processed chicken and pickle for lunch, and oven-cooked burgers, fries and microwaved baked beans for dinner. Yes, I acknowledge that the burgers and fries are not healthy, but I don't know of anything healthy costing the same or less money that can be cooked using the oven and/or the microwave.

So did you go hungry all day? I am 140 and I would have been hungry eating only this. You had no snacks at all? Nothing to drink? Etc.

One could have high cholesterol eating only that, but no one would be overweight on that diet.
 

Danj

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So did you go hungry all day? I am 140 and I would have been hungry eating only this. You had no snacks at all? Nothing to drink? Etc.

One could have high cholesterol eating only that, but no one would be overweight on that diet.

Oh, forgot to include drinks, I would've had orange juice from concentrate. No idea how much though, several glasses I guess? I don't think I had any snacks in the house at the time, but then I wasn't doing much yesterday either.
 

Danj

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Buy this. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005M8IP0W/?tag=neogaf0e-20
and make chilis and stews.

Buy chicken in bulk and cook it in the oven with lemon and pepper. Look for recipes that use chicken.

Buy Eggs, and milk, ground beef and other basic ingredients instead of buying premade burgers and fries.

Stop contributing your bad diet to your wallet.

That brand of slow cooker isn't available here in the UK; which of these would be an acceptable substitute?
 

EviLore

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What? It's not Coke or Mountain Dew or anything like that... are you seriously telling me orange juice is bad? I really have to drink only water all day?

Nutritionally, yes it is Coke or Mountain Dew. Something being "natural" or having vitamins doesn't automatically make it universally good for you. In this case, the only relevant thing is that you're drinking boatloads of sugar every day.

Drinking sugar water makes you fat, probably the most significant contributor to obesity.

Watch this all the way through to understand why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM&ob=av3e
 
That brand of slow cooker isn't available here in the UK; which of these would be an acceptable substitute?

Anything that works and has decent ratings will work. Try looking at a thrift store for a extra savings.

And drink only water and maybe milk (not too much for you though since you are trying to lose weight). Save the other stuff for special occasions and cheat days.
 
What? It's not Coke or Mountain Dew or anything like that... are you seriously telling me orange juice is bad? I really have to drink only water all day?

Yeah, dont drink juice. Drink tea or water or add some lemon to water. But really, stop buying juice, and use that money for better food.

Just check the packaging, its full of sugards. Like EviLore says, dont buy in fads like 'natural' sugars or such things. Being able to read packaging and nutritional information is really important (and easy) and something you should learn to do..
 

Danj

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Yeah, dont drink juice. Drink tea or water or add some lemon to water. But really, stop buying juice, and use that money for better food.

I'm confused... juice is okay if it comes from an actual fruit, but not from a bottle? But yeah, I guess I can switch to water or tea.
 
I'm confused... juice is okay if it comes from an actual fruit, but not from a bottle? But yeah, I guess I can switch to water or tea.

No, the large volume of sugar involved just plain makes juice less healthy. Even if there's no sugar added, the juice usually has too much sugar in it to begin with, since it takes several pieces of fruit to make a serving of juice. If you're serious about weight loss drink only water, unsweetened tea, or black coffee. Spend the money that would have gone to juice on more meaningful nutrition.
 

EviLore

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I'm confused... juice is okay if it comes from an actual fruit, but not from a bottle?

1 orange, ~12g sugar, 3g fiber

12oz glass of Tropicana pulp-free orange juice, 33g sugar, 0g fiber.

Three glasses of orange juice a day is like eating ten whole oranges a day, without actually satiating your hunger, so they're bad calories added on top of your normal food consumption for the day.

Watch the video I linked.
 
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Deleted member 81567

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That video is pretty cool. I quit drinking soda but kinda relapsed lately, but that video gave me a nice firm slap.
 

Septimius

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1 orange, ~12g sugar, 3g fiber

12oz glass of Tropicana pulp-free orange juice, 33g sugar, 0g fiber.

Three glasses of orange juice a day is like eating ten whole oranges a day, without actually satiating your hunger, so they're bad calories added on top of your normal food consumption for the day.

Watch the video I linked.

This is exactly what I wanted to say. No one would say oranges are bad, but when was the last time you ate 5 oranges in a row? At that, you're skipping out on all the things that are actually good in an orange. Fiber, the meat, all the goodness.

Drink water and have an orange. It's just as awesome, and healthier.
 

Danj

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No, the large volume of sugar involved just plain makes juice less healthy. Even if there's no sugar added, the juice usually has too much sugar in it to begin with, since it takes several pieces of fruit to make a serving of juice. If you're serious about weight loss drink only water, unsweetened tea, or black coffee. Spend the money that would have gone to juice on more meaningful nutrition.

Juice isn't really that expensive, I haven't bought any for a couple of months, so not buying it will not really save anything. It sucks that it's bad for me but OK, I guess I can switch to something else.
 
Juice isn't really that expensive, I haven't bought any for a couple of months, so not buying it will not really save anything. It sucks that it's bad for me but OK, I guess I can switch to something else.

Drink coffee, black. Be a manly man. Or drink tea and be a classy manly man. It can't be that expensive.

Could you explain something to me? Your constant financial woes. It seems like you keep bringing it up. Are unemployed or in some kind of huge debt comparable to Greece's (political reference, woop woop) or something?
 

Septimius

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Juice isn't really that expensive, I haven't bought any for a couple of months, so not buying it will not really save anything. It sucks that it's bad for me but OK, I guess I can switch to something else.

We can sit around and say it sucks that we can't stuff our face with all the chocolate, sodas and fries we want and not gain weight, but if you're serious about this, it's a good wake-up call, not something that sucks. Too many believe drinking juice is a completely healthy thing to do. You're now one of those that know the difference.

Let's say that a liter of juice costs $1.5 - let's say you drink 4 liters per week. That's 312$ per year. If it's $2 per liter, it's 416$. That's 416$ you pay to be unhealthy.

You could almost buy an iPhone by not drinking something unhealthy. Sounds financially beneficial to me.
 
Oh, did I ever mention how annoying it is when your friends get lucky as shit with girls and never have to do any of the shit you do?

yeah, it's kind of painful when you know the guy is a user and a liar and he is still able to pull in one quality woman after the other. Something about him draws women to him. Obviously there's a bitter ending when these women find out they've been used, but hey, the dude's living life and, more importantly, isnt alone. (though being neck deep in tits and ass didnt stop him from attempting to overdose on meds. the guy has personality disorders and other issues. our friendship ended when he stole my flat screen tv and lied about it, lol)
 

Septimius

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yeah, it's kind of painful when you know the guy is a user and a liar and he is still able to pull in one quality woman after the other. Something about him draws women to him. Obviously there's a bitter ending when these women find out they've been used, but hey, the dude's living life and, more importantly, isnt alone. (though being neck deep in tits and ass didnt stop him from attempting to overdose on meds. the guy has personality disorders and other issues)

Is using women for one night stands a sure way to be happy? Is that really something to be envious of?
 
Alright, you assholes scared me off juice now. But I refuse to quit entirely. One glass a day sounds right for me.

I've been getting mad ab-muscles forming but it's hard to get them to 'pop' with some of this fat which I've been trying to cut. I'm eating pretty healthy these days but I was also drinking quite a lot of juice haha.
 
Is using women for one night stands a sure way to be happy? Is that really something to be envious of?

he's been in lengthy relationships with at least 6 or 7 very attractive, intelligent women (to be fair,I think with some of them, he genuinely tried to not be a manipulative piece of work. women love him because he's the wounded artist type...bad childhood, mother died early, abusive father... he's a guy for them to "fix") and never struggles for a date. that's what I was envious of
 

Septimius

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So...I came back from my date. I dunno what to think. It started off well, we were at a bar on a roof which she really liked. After about 45 minutes we went to get something to eat but the fucking place was shut(they said they were open on Easter Saturday too)! We ended up going to another bar and drinking there for a bit then to a cocktail lounge above it. Jazz, cocktails, really nice view. It seemed really good and she loved it there. She even seemed to be flirting a bit(Like when I said I can be coercive she goes "Yeah, I can see that" with a smile, ect).

How is a date going well if she only seemed to be "flirting a bit"? And how is it positive that 1) you say you are coercive 2) she says "Yeah, I can see that"??

We ended up pretty drunk there and went out looking for food, unfortunately everything at that time was closed and took a while to find a place. Finally found a Chinese place but she said she was tired then and after we ate she left. I then got a text right after saying I "seemed like a good mate" and she wanted to meet again. I sent a message back saying I look forward to seeing her again and hope the next night lasts longer(she left at 1am) but it was good hanging out with a beautiful girl on a Saturday night...I dunno, I'm fucking drunk.

I don't get it though. She seemed flirty and interested at the start and over it by the end?
Ive never really had a 1 on 1 date before so I'm not really sure how to act, I thought I was alright now. Maybe I should have been more forward? Should I have tried to kiss her good night? I also feel like I was TOO honest(like I'm back with my parents until I can find a room mate, I feel like I should have just said I was had a place)

Why not have a first date that doesn't involve drinking? It shouldn't be a buzz-kill that she wants to be home by 1. When I think first date, I think meeting a girl over coffee. Getting lost in conversation, flirting, tension. It doesn't have to be too long. It should leave them wanting more, and then you know you're compatible, and you can do something a bit bigger for the second date. Maybe a dinner with a drink at the end or going for a walk after dinner.

A first date that involves getting drunk is just a pitfall for poor judgement, saying things you'll regret, second guessing yourself because you don't really remember it, and just generally it being messy. There's nothing wrong with being back with your parents for a while, and if you can't say it and own up to it, you're not confident enough - lying about it is just getting off to a horrible start.

Saying anything and be respected for it only comes down to how you say it. If you don't like the fact that you're living at home and you present that fact with the guilt you bear for it, you won't get any respect for it.

And, why do you say "the fucking place was closed!"? If you're on a date and you bring the girl to a restaurant that's closed, and you get angry or annoyed by it, it won't give a good impression. You should be spontaneous and playful, which would imply "snap! They're closed! I was certain they'd be open. Oh, well, my bad - let's go find some other place :D" and then you do something random and it turns out to be a magical evening anyway. I certainly wouldn't go out with someone that's upset about such a small thing and can't go with the flow. Don't be rigid. Figure out something new.
 

Septimius

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Alright, you assholes scared me off juice now. But I refuse to quit entirely. One glass a day sounds right for me.

I've been getting mad ab-muscles forming but it's hard to get them to 'pop' with some of this fat which I've been trying to cut. I'm eating pretty healthy these days but I was also drinking quite a lot of juice haha.

No. One glass of juice is nothing of nutritional value. It's like eating chocolate. You can say "Well, I'm gonna eat one bar of chocolate every day", and you can even make it work, but it's just no point. Leave those things for the weekends and days where you treat yourself to some of the 'bad' stuff. The glass of juice on a Saturday will taste much better than that glass of juice ever day.
 
.....fuck fitness haha. Fine...fine. I'm going down to one glass every second day. That's as far as I'm negotiating with my body for a little while at least.
 

Septimius

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he's been in lengthy relationships with at least 6 or 7 very attractive, intelligent women (to be fair,I think with some of them, he genuinely tried to not be a manipulative piece of work. women love him because he's the wounded artist type...bad childhood, mother died early, abusive father... he's a guy for them to "fix") and never struggles for a date. that's what I was envious of

I know the type. So what if he can ensnare any type of women for some period of time? They all either come to their senses or are manipulated enough or dumped by this emotional unavailable, miserable guy. If you can't form meaningful, lasting relationships, it's all for nothing. You can't be serious that you're envious of a person that had a bad childhood and an abusive father and a dead mother just because it gets them laid because they've become a cold, manipulative bastard because of it.

There's nothing to be envious of here. Keep struggling. It's hardship that will shape you and drive you to become a fantastic person. It is the fact that you work for what you achieve that makes you a fantastic person at this very instant.

.....fuck fitness haha. Fine...fine. I'm going down to one glass every second day. That's as far as I'm negotiating with my body for a little while at least.

How do you know your body can't go without juice for more than two days? This isn't about "negotiating with your body", it's about giving in to something pointless. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, really. I'm no better myself, but I'm just putting this in perspective, because we all do these bargainings, but there's no reason not to take it further.
 
I need to start going to the gym again.

*sigh*
Still no response. Yesterday was a shitty day in general (an okay night, though).

Maybe I'll drown myself in work.
 

RawPower

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When dancing, sort of. Unless you are hot and dancing too. It's the rare occasion they have of just flaunting their sexy selves with a bunch of friends in public. They don't want to stop to talk to you.

That's pretty much the rule of thumb, isn't it? Never approach a girl unless you're hot.

Man, no wonder I'm having trouble.
 
That's pretty much the rule of thumb, isn't it? Never approach a girl unless you're hot.

Man, no wonder I'm having trouble.

That's a fucking terrible rule. If you follow that rule, you'll end up approaching no one, not cause you're not hot but because you have a terrible self-image.

I want you to strip that rule out of your mind. Now.
 

RawPower

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That's a fucking terrible rule. If you follow that rule, you'll end up approaching no one, not cause you're not hot but because you have a terrible self-image.

I want you to strip that rule out of your mind. Now.

I apologize for the negativity in that post, but that's what I gathered from his words (whether he intended to say that or not). I'm having a shitty day.
 
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