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The non-Pixar animated movie HATE thread

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Just requested Waltz with Bashir, Tangled, and Persepolis from my library.

Got Tintin out from Redbox.

Saw Arriety, Cat Returns, and part of Nausicaa (gotta finish it) other day. Watched Fantastic Fox last night.

I'm on an animation ROLL.

Tintin is godlike. I may be biased because I grew up reading him but that movie didn't let me down one bit.
 

Ultimadrago

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The opening post specifically, aside from the hysterical title (intended to spark a debate, presumably) seems like a fair-enough presentation of an opinion. But, yeah, sorry, don't want to get bogged down in metathread.

Everyone go watch Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs!

Off Topic: I'm not sure if I've ever told you that I love your avatar, but I love your avatar.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
HTTYD is great because the visuals are stunning, and it uses a typical story into something very endearing. Toothless is pretty much very entertaining (and adorable) and has a huge chemistry work with Hiccup.

But hey, that's why we have opinions. I mean, if you ask me regarding Coraline I'd have opinions that might make certain people wonder. I mean, I consider Nightmare Before Christmas pretty mediocre. :p
 

SKINNER!

Banned
I'm currently watching Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and its fantastic so far.

""Come on, Steve. We've got a diem to carpe"
 

Mistle

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I still don't understand what was so great about How to Train your Dragon or the Iron Giant for that matter. Not bad, but I didn't feel they were anything special by a long shot.
Yeah, I finally watched HTTYD after all the hype and was let down a bit. It was a good movie, but that's all. Nothing special. The big fight at the end too felt really tacked on and overstayed its welcome.
 
... What the fuckery is going on here?

So we're allowed to hate on all animated films ... NOT made by pixar?

That's ass backwards seeing as most great animated films arnt even made by Pixar. (I'm counting both 2D AND Non-American stuff)

If there's anything I have grown to dislike about Pixar it's the culture of fans they have gathered that seemingly turn up their nose at anything that's not Pixar and act like they're at some level that's simply out of reach.
 

Shig

Strap on your hooker ...
... What the fuckery is going on here?

So we're allowed to hate on all animated films ... NOT made by pixar?

That's ass backwards seeing as most great animated films arnt even made by Pixar. (I'm counting both 2D AND Non-American stuff)

If there's anything I have grown to dislike about Pixar it's the culture of fans they have gathered that seemingly turn up their nose at anything that's not Pixar and act like they're at some level that's simply out of reach.
I'm pretty sure the OP intended to refer to CG animated movies, not all animated movies. I'm not one to put them on a pedestal, but they're definitely the most consistent in that field by a large margin.
 
The ignorance in this thread is truly staggering.

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I liked this movie!
 

Oppo

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I wonder how many DreamWorks fans are also Android fans.

Kidding!
sorta

Agent Unknown said:
Reminds me that I also need to get Nausicaa on Bluray and replace my DVD copy one of these days.

Consider yourself reminded.
 
I'm pretty sure the OP intended to refer to CG animated movies, not all animated movies. I'm not one to put them on a pedestal, but they're definitely the most consistent in that field by a large margin.

Even in the realm if CGI that's debatable and I still feel my point stands.

Tangled, HTTYD, KP1&2, Cloudy, Horton Hears a Who!, Monsters Versus Aliens, MegaMind, Rango, Rio, Puss in boots, MOST of the Ice Age Movies and SOME of the Shrek movies are all better than most of the stuff I see from Pixar. The best things to come from them are the Incredibles, the first half or Wall-e, first part of Up and the first 2 Toy Story movies.

I would actually say BlueSky is more consistent. The only stinker from this is Robots. :/
 

Mistle

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Even in the realm if CGI that's debatable and I still feel my point stands.

Tangled, HTTYD, KP1&2, Cloudy, Horton Hears a Who!, MegaMind, Rango, Rio, Puss in boots, MOST of the Ice Age Movies and SOME of the Shrek movies are all better than most of the stuff I see from Pixar. The best things to come from them are the Incredibles, the first half or Wall-e, first part of Up and the first 2 Toy Story movies.

I would actually say BlueSky is more consistent. The only stinker from this is Robots. :/
BlueSky more consistent than Pixar? .....Ok.

I'm not a "Pixar-fanboy" and am greatly respectful of other companies, but that's just so crazy to me. I enjoy a lot of the movies you listed, but apart from Tangled (and maybe Shrek 1), none of them match up to the amount of quality and love Pixar put into their movies.

Ever since Princess and the Frog and Tangled however, Disney are back in the game too. Almost as good as 90s Disney. Really excited to see if they keep up the consistency, especially after a crappy past ~10 years.
 
BlueSky more consistent than Pixar? .....Ok.

I say consistent as in "consistently enjoyable". They don't make many movies but outside of robots I enjoyed all of them and would rank them as "good". Not "OMG, GREAT!" but simply good, enjoyable films.

Can't say I feel that way about Pixar, Dreamworks seeing as both had made more than one film I simply don't like.


I'm not a "Pixar-fanboy" and am greatly respectful of other companies, but that's just so crazy to me. I enjoy a lot of the movies you listed, but apart from Tangled (and maybe Shrek 1), none of them match up to the amount of quality and love Pixar put into their movies.
Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
If HTTYD and KP can't break break your shell (The research and attention to detail in KP is just amazing. Hell, KP easily has the best combat animation and choreography seen in a 3D animated film. I would say that's the best in any animated film I have seen, including 2D anime but I know that an area with tons of fighting movies so I wouldn't say that until I have actually compared some to it.) then I really don't know what to tell you.


Ever since Princess and the Frog and Tangled however, Disney are back in the game too. Almost as good as 90s Disney. Really excited to see if they keep up the consistency, especially after a crappy past ~10 years.
That Frog movie was trash. I'm not at all shocked that it didn't do very well for Disney :/


(Also forgot to list Monsters versus Aliens. An awesome movie and is the first 3D animated feminist film.)
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm not a "Pixar-fanboy" and am greatly respectful of other companies, but that's just so crazy to me. I enjoy a lot of the movies you listed, but apart from Tangled (and maybe Shrek 1), none of them match up to the amount of quality and love Pixar put into their movies.

Ever since Princess and the Frog and Tangled however, Disney are back in the game too. Almost as good as 90s Disney. Really excited to see if they keep up the consistency, especially after a crappy past ~10 years.

Eh for me, KFP pretty much solidified the fact that Pixar can't reach that. There's a comedy film. There's an action film. There's an emotional film. And there's blending them all together in a very good wuxia film with awesome visuals and very, very good villains. This film made me like Jack Black!

Frog was pretty crappy. Tangled however is very great. However, you know what Disney movie never gets loved that is actually good? Bolt.

I say consistent as in "consistently enjoyable". They don't make many movies but outside of robots I enjoyed all of them and would rank them as "good". Not "OMG, GREAT!" but simply good, enjoyable films.

(Also forgot to list Monsters versus Aliens. An awesome movie and is the first 3D animated feminist film.)

Damn right! People seem to equate DW only through Shrek, and yes I agree they have shit like Bee Movie and Shark Tale, and mediocre/decent ones like Madagascar and Over the Hedge (although I'd say the latter is pretty good). Sadly people assume the quality of their other shows are equally inferior, which really sucks.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I like Princess and the Frog. That lightning bug thing was really annoying though. But Tangled is a lot better.

My problem in PatF is that it has the annoying sidekick syndrome, it has pretty pointless scenes/padding (dat hicks in the bayou scene), the ending was resolved way too easily (much worse than Tangled imo), and Facilier (sp?) has only few lines. Tangled is in many ways superior.

People are just too lighthanded on it because "omg 2D!!!"
 
I don't think Pixar has a better track record than anyone else really.

Pixar movies I enjoyed:
Toy Story
Toy Story 3

Non Pixar CG movies I enjoyed:
Shrek
How to Train Your Dragon
Antz
Coraline

Also that chart on the first page is pretty silly. You can make any movie sound good or bad depending on the description, and Pixar movie characters make those dumb super exaggerated faces too.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I remember that oscar drama thingie here in GAF. They're like "I bet DW just paid to have their shows nominated" while completely ignoring that Disney did the same thing as well.
 

Timbuktu

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I guess Cars 2 has somewhat opened the floodgate to a backlash against Pixar after a decade of no one saying a bad word against them. But i think they do have the best track record, personal tastes aside

Dreamworks, when they get the right talent on the project, can make equally great films, although you can be sure that any hit they have will eventually be run into the ground by sequels.

Aesthetically, i'm not sure where Pixar is heading nowadays. Brave looks great, but i'd wish they could also make films with smaller budgets where they don't have to be play it safe.
 

CorvoSol

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My problem in PatF is that it has the annoying sidekick syndrome, it has pretty pointless scenes/padding (dat hicks in the bayou scene), the ending was resolved way too easily (much worse than Tangled imo), and Facilier (sp?) has only few lines. Tangled is in many ways superior.

People are just too lighthanded on it because "omg 2D!!!"

I am willing to agree that Dr. Facilier was underutilized in that movie. He was such an entertaining villain and for me, Disney movies do best with strong villains. Poor guy barely had his own villain song.
 

Dash Kappei

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I'm with you as a rule of thumb, but How to Train your Dragon was awesome, Despicable Me was great as were Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs and Rango, even Kung Fu Panda was pretty good. That's it, the rest are garbage. Although Cars isn't any better, terrible movies...

edit: Holy fuck I thought you meant CGI. Nope. You're batshit crazy then. Hello, Persepolis? The Iron Giant? Coraline?
 

Xun

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I guess Cars 2 has somewhat opened the floodgate to a backlash against Pixar after a decade of no one saying a bad word against them. But i think they do have the best track record, personal tastes aside

Dreamworks, when they get the right talent on the project, can make equally great films, although you can be sure that any hit they have will eventually be run into the ground by sequels.

Aesthetically, i'm not sure where Pixar is heading nowadays. Brave looks great, but i'd wish they could also make films with smaller budgets where they don't have to be play it safe.
Indeed.

The hate for Pixar popped up shortly after Cars 2.

I think Up might be the only Pixar movie I like. I loathe Toy Story. Disgusting visuals.
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mavs

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It's been a while but I remember Over the Hedge being a funny movie. Sure it was about as deep as a university project but it was better than the Shreks and Pixar hadn't done anything amazing by that point either..
 

Symphonic

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It's been a while but I remember Over the Hedge being a funny movie. Sure it was about as deep as a university project but it was better than the Shreks and Pixar hadn't done anything amazing by that point either..

You don't think anything Pixar did before 2006 was amazing? What the fuck?
 

mavs

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You don't think anything Pixar did before 2006 was amazing? What the fuck?

I don't mean to say that OTH was anywhere near as good as Pixar movies then, it was Dreamworks' first watchable film. But Pixar wasn't turning out next level shit like they did since that point either. Everything up to then had been at best a combination of good and novel.
 

SKINNER!

Banned
Highly recommend Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. It was really fun to watch. also watched Waltz with Bashir again straight afterwards. Two Non-Pixar films that I enjoyed. Look, Pixar are great at what they do but you can't brush off other animated films just because they aren't Pixar.

also, lolol at Scullibundo getting his panties in a twist. chill son! I went for a bathroom break and had this thread open on my computer.
 

Symphonic

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I don't mean to say that OTH was anywhere near as good as Pixar movies then, it was Dreamworks' first watchable film. But Pixar wasn't turning out next level shit like they did since that point either. Everything up to then had been at best a combination of good and novel.

Incredibles am cry.
 
Highly recommend Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. It was really fun to watch. also watched Waltz with Bashir again straight afterwards. Two Non-Pixar films that I enjoyed. Look, Pixar are great at what they do but you can't brush off other animated films just because they aren't Pixar.

also, lolol at Scullibundo getting his panties in a twist. chill son! I went for a bathroom break and had this thread open on my computer.

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Highly recommend Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. It was really fun to watch. also watched Waltz with Bashir again straight afterwards. Two Non-Pixar films that I enjoyed. Look, Pixar are great at what they do but you can't brush off other animated films just because they aren't Pixar.

also, lolol at Scullibundo getting his panties in a twist. chill son! I went for a bathroom break and had this thread open on my computer.

You didn't cry like a bitch as I did? Dat ending o_O
 

SKINNER!

Banned
You didn't cry like a bitch as I did? Dat ending o_O

I felt like complete shit the first time I watched it when I was back in uni. My mouth was still open in shock as the credits started rolling. Walked out of that theatre and took a 30 minute train home and that ending was stuck in my head throughout the whole trip.
 
I felt like complete shit the first time I watched it when I was back in uni. My mouth was still open in shock as the credits started rolling. Walked out of that theatre and took a 30 minute train home and that ending was stuck in my head throughout the whole trip.

Same. Saw it in cinema, and for the rest of the whole day felt like I was in a daze. Easily favorite film of all time. I've shown it to other people, and they've acted similarly. I think it's a genius decision to take you out of your "watching an animated movie, so can't be that bad" comfort zone.
 

3N16MA

Banned
I was very disappointed by The Illusionist. Had been hanging out for ages to see it too.

I thought it was well done. However I believe some have fallen a little too in love with it/over hyped due to getting caught up in the whole romance of watching what many believe is a dying breed of animated film. I never let the influence of hand drawn animation persuade me into believing a film is better than it actually is.
 

GManDH

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TO EACH HIS OWN!!!!! Apparently what irritates some of the people in this thread entertain others so it is wrong, and to a point even ignorant to say oo "X" company sucks or "Y" movie was horrible. dont say something is bad just because you were the one that didnt enjoy it. Now to discuss what this thread is about, most Pixar movies are amazing and most non pixar movies are compared to it in a wrong way. here is a quote that is very applicable here, dont hate just appreciate.
 
Indeed.
The hate for Pixar popped up shortly after Cars 2.

...Cars 2 isnt even bad. im not a huge Pixar fan (great movies, but i wouldnt watch them a second time) and even i thought Cars 2 was a pretty fun action movie. it seemed to be hated before it released though. an attitude born from everyone's equally misguided dislike of the original.
 

SKINNER!

Banned
Same. Saw it in cinema, and for the rest of the whole day felt like I was in a daze. Easily favorite film of all time. I've shown it to other people, and they've acted similarly. I think it's a genius decision to take you out of your "watching an animated movie, so can't be that bad" comfort zone.

I'm surprised you managed to get other people to watch it. I've been hyping it up to everyone I know and nobody wants to go near it.
 
this looks better than the females in incredibles who are all badly designed, physically impossible and likely to give female body image issues.

not even opinion, it is objective reality.

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I know people are entitled to their opinion, but this post is soooooo "WUT" worthy.

That dreamworks woman is disgustingly generic. Like a character from the Sims or something. While the Incredibles characters ave a certain style to them. It's more unique, more appealing and as someone mentioned before, actually fit their character/role in the movie. I especially like the design of Mirage.
 
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